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Simon Says Mafia - I would never lie to you, please do what I say

Oct 25, 2017
1,781
Meatwad and Fran can’t be scum buddies.
Swamped and Fran can’t be scum buddies.
Zeke and Swamped can’t be scum buddies.
Zeke and Fran can’t be scum buddies.

Only possible combinations are Swamped + Meatwad and Zeke + Meatwad. Meatwad is proooobably scum.
 
Nov 3, 2017
1,876
Because a role that could tampered a tracker is unlikely. If scum have a counter for my role the most logical role would be a x-shot ninja.
If it is a x shot ninja, why wouldn’t they use it last night?

If they have a ninja, they know there is a tracker.

He just happened to luck up on tracking scum this day?
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,781
If it is a x shot ninja, why wouldn’t they use it last night?

If they have a ninja, they know there is a tracker.

He just happened to luck up on tracking scum this day?
Presumably because they used their shots? Maybe it is luck. I’m still reading through the thread, but those possible pairings are the conclusions I’ve reached at this stage. And Meatwad is in both of them, regardless of Fran’s claim.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Apollo swamped and meat can’t be scum together they could’ve voted Fran when I had my vote on him.
Meatwad left to go to class while you had the only vote on Fran. Swamped didn’t show up for around 5 minutes after that. Scum wouldn’t try turbo in that situation unless they were damn sure they’d both get the votes in and synchronized. Otherwise they’d just out themselves. It’s a tight window, but they can be partners.

You and Swamped cannot be partners because you didn’t turbo Meatwad. Both of you posted within a minute or so of Fran’s vote, so I am more confident about this one.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,781
Meatwad was the vote that put me in the lead. Why didn't he voted for Swamped or Chuggs instead?

This were the votes before Meatwad:



Voting for me was very risky if he was my scum partner. It would have been very difficult to save me if noone changed their votes.
In light of my current feelings on the possible scum teams, this is an interesting observation from Fran.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,781
EzekelRAGE

Please unvote Fran for the time being. He’s only one away from turbo. There’s no need to turbo yet. If the team is Swamped+Meatwad, we lose. If the team is you+Meatwad, uhhhhh, please find it in your heart to unvote.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,781
1. I fully believe Fran and EzekelRAGE are town, since they come across as sincere in trying to solve the game. Especially Zeke as he has been quite active and has regularly questioned everybody
Also notable in light of my current scum team theories. Zeke was Meatwad’s strongest town read yesterday.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,781
He's actually been pretty consistent in his reads, especially regarding you. It also feels like he's looking for clues about people's alignments, which is a good sign. Still, the points I brought up the previous day phase concern me.



Yep, I apologized for misunderstanding your quote. I still scumread you though <3



Fran. It pains me to say this but Chuggs is also a possibility. If Fran is town, it could be that meatwad was trying to save Chuggs end of D4.

Question is, is a meatwad/malus team a possibility? Both had interactions with cabot on D1. Neither has really spoken with each other throughout the game. There isn't as much evidence for this partnership though.



Thanks for this post! And maybe I have my scum-tinted glasses on, but this reads list feels sooo scummy to me lol. There are only 2 scum left. Why even have neutral reads at all in this list? This feels like you're leaving room to vote for either me or exo if it comes down to it.

I also want to bring something else up about meatwad.

He was adamant about not getting the Simon power D1.



Any townie should want this role, but I can see taking a backseat if you were a PR. This was kind of a breadcrumb. BUT we are D5 now and I'm fairly sure all our PRs are out in the open, or should be by now. This breadcrumb never panned out. I think meatwad didn't want the role because he is scum.



I talked about it on D3. I believed Faddy mainly because of the timing of his roleclaim. It genuinely felt like he was doing it for the good of town, having seen DC's power in action. I just couldn't see it as a scum move. Now this is tangential, but I also think the Faddy lynch would have been an easy mislynch for at least one of the scum to hide behind:

💀 Faddy (6 votes)
exodus - #766
💀 FluxWaveZ - #970
💀 SalvaPot - #1,015
Meatwad - #1,147
Fran - #1,193
malus - #1,219

Flux and Salva were town, pretty sure Exo is too.
Now, would both scum be on this lynch? My inclination is no, but happy to hear reasons why they could be.
Which leaves Zeke, Apollo and Chuggs.
Ohmygod Chuggs are you scum
It’s beginning to feel a lot like the scum team is Zeke and Meatwad.
 
Day 6 ends, Meatwad, the Vanilla Townie, is eliminated and MAFIA WINS!
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Pedro
Oct 25, 2017
1,039

Meatwad has died!

Hello, and welcome to Simon Says!

You are a Vanilla Townie: your only power is to vote.
You are aligned with Town and win when all threats against Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.
If you have any questions, please send a PM to Pedro.
Simon says: "After reading this message, please reply to it to confirm you received it".

Good luck!
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And with that, the Mafia team has trivially achieved majority!!

Fran has won!

Hello, and welcome to Simon Says!

You are a Vengeful: if you are lynched, the player with the most recent, active vote on you will also be removed from the game in the same Day phase.

Your partners are [redacted]. As part of the Mafia, you have access to your factional kill which can be executed every Night by posting the command KILL: <Player Name> on your private thread.
You are aligned with Mafia and win when your faction controls the majority of votes at day start.

The game thread is here. The Mafia thread is here.
If you have any questions, please send a PM to Pedro.
Simon says: "After reading this message, please reply to it to confirm you received it".

Good luck!
EzekelRAGE has won!

Hello, and welcome to Simon Says!

You are a Goon: your only power is to vote.

Your partners are [redacted]. As part of the Mafia, you have access to your factional kill which can be executed every Night by posting the command KILL: <Player Name> on your private thread.
You are aligned with Mafia and win when your faction controls the majority of votes at day start.

The game thread is here. The Mafia thread is here.
If you have any questions, please send a PM to Pedro.
Simon says: "After reading this message, please reply to it to confirm you received it".

Good luck!
and
cabot has won!

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Congratulations to the Mafia for winning, and thank you all who played in my game and had fun with it! I have more to say but I'll let this breathe for now <3
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Grats mafia!! I was thoroughly convinced zeke was against Fran. Damn well played. Never even considered lynch bomb. Town, sorry I fucked up. Wish I could have brought it home.

Pedro, thanks for hosting the game!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Grats mafia!! I was thoroughly convinced zeke was against Fran. Damn well played. Never even considered lynch bomb. Town, sorry I fucked up. Wish I could have brought it home.

Pedro, thanks for hosting the game!
Nah, you were all in quite the tough spot there. You did pretty good figuring things out all things considered
 
OP
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Pedro
Oct 25, 2017
1,039
Pedro, thanks for hosting the game!
Thanks Pedro for hosting the game
<33

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Apollo's PM:

Hello, and welcome to Simon Says!

You are a 1-shot Day Vigilante: once during the game, during any Day phase, you can kill another player by sending me a PM with the command KILL: <Player Name>. That player will be killed immediately. The Day will not end after your kill.
You are aligned with Town and win when all threats against Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.
If you have any questions, please send a PM to Pedro.
Simon says: "After reading this message, please reply to it to confirm you received it".

Good luck!
Meatwad and Swamped were both Vanilla Townies.
 

Fantomas

Is this tag ok?
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,561
Congrats to the Scum Team! You guys did great!

Zeke, I am apparently the only person who caught your fake breadcrumb, and it made me believe you were the Town Doctor forever you sneaky bastard lol:
That’s weak reasoning for you townrrading
dc.

To me, the power for scum is too
strong.

Double lynch doesn’t make sense and wasted time. So it seems you want faddy doubly
killed.
Fran, I wanted to lynch you forever, but you somehow convinced Town that you were one of them. Well done!

As for the remaining Town players, you all did your best and I had fun watching you all try to figure things out.

Apollo you were great here on the last day, seriously. You were right about Zeke, which is really impressive! You put in all the work and came away with what was, to you, the best and most logical conclusion and I think you should feel good about that even though you got it wrong. I've been there, it sucks, but really, you did great! <3
 

Brazil

The Dude of Prophecy
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
7,074
São Paulo, Brazil
Congrats, Fran, Zeke and cabot!

Fran and Zeke turned things around amazingly well. Really great play from both of you.

Apollo too, holy crap. That shot was a sight to behold, and she was so close to figuring things out. I think if she had one more day phase she'd have all the pieces in place.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Congrats scum! Zeke did a great job, great scum play. Apollo deserves kudos for managing to start zeroing in on Zeke despite scum’s plan to funnel discussion to two lynch options that would both result in a victory for them.

If anyone wants spec access let me know.
 
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Pedro
Oct 25, 2017
1,039
I remember a few people asking why the Mafia win condition said "majority" instead of "50%".

Well, first because that's the standard win condition that should be used: https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?posts/48969/

But second because in a state with 2 Town vs. 2 Mafia alive, and one of these 2 Townies is the Day Vig still with their shot, the Vig could kill one of the Mafia members and they could lynch the other one. That's why just "50%" wasn't an automatic victory here.

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Thanks for running the game Pedro .
Also, thanks for running the game Pedro.
You're all welcome <3
 
Nov 3, 2017
1,876
Contrats malus . You did a great job.

EzekelRAGE it was great sharing a team with you.

Thanks for running the game Pedro .
Same to you
Congrats to the Scum Team! You guys did great!

Zeke, I am apparently the only person who caught your fake breadcrumb, and it made me believe you were the Town Doctor forever you sneaky bastard lol:
lol yea, that breadcrumb. I was toying with claiming a doc if I needed to at some point. Probably 1 shot or something.
I said so in spec chat, but nice job Zeke. Even if I got that Fran lynch through, I don’t think I would of got you
Congrats, Fran, Zeke and cabot!

Fran and Zeke turned things around amazingly well. Really great play from both of you.
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Congrats scum! Zeke did a great job, great scum play. Apollo deserves kudos for managing to start zeroing in on Zeke despite scum’s plan to funnel discussion to two lynch options that would both result in a victory for them.

If anyone wants spec access let me know.
Thanks, and yea give me spec
I’m going to be kicking myself till the end of time for backing off that Fran lynch. Sorry town, I really screwed us there :/
You should see our reactions in scum chat about the turn around. We were amazed.
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I thought I may have messed up when I was pushing exo off of the Fran lynch yesterday. Dat double vote was scary.
 
Oct 25, 2017
814
USA
Congrats scum! Zeke did a great job, great scum play. Apollo deserves kudos for managing to start zeroing in on Zeke despite scum’s plan to funnel discussion to two lynch options that would both result in a victory for them.

If anyone wants spec access let me know.
yes please