People are wary of Cabot's interactions with me. But I was calling him out on scummy behavior. I knew something was off about him when he wasn't pressing me as hard as he usually does.
I think outside of me and Apollo the town is Chuggernaut, Fran, Zeke. I like exo more than most.
Not everyone has even checked in today. I will say Fran's opening post is a pretty typical scum opening to a day.
Yeah, neutral at worst.
Or lost scum member
*X-Files theme playing
Yes what is up with me is wanting one of our best players to be Simon. I think that's something all townies should want as well
I'm not liking DCPat righ now. He is asking for people to vote but he isn't voting himself. It sounds fake.
Ebwop- exodus
I still think it's possible faddy/cabot was scum/scum.
But I don't understand how singling someone out for a lynch makes them scum. Isn't that just pushing someone like normal?
I know my theories can be out there at times. So seeing someone who sees things the way I do is interesting. But then I look at this:Because to single out someone as scum ensures we waste our time focus on a townie. The soft vig claim from Faddy was also scummy. I think he was just arguing with cabot for show and obviously didn't intend for him to die. Arguments day 1 were even less risky than usual for scum since no one was getting lynched.
I take it back. I'm leaning scum on Faddy the more that I think about it.
It's seems you only entertained the theory to draw out other scum and never really believed it.Let's drop the Faddy = scum aspect. Zeke's taking it on and I kind of entertained it as a possibility, hoping scum would try to latch on to it to bring the votes away from Faddy. Not seeing it happen at all.
In any case, here's my final vote.
Vote: Faddy
I like to play devil's advocate and entertain the less likely possibilities, but I do think I'm overthinking things here and I'll go with the most likely townie we have.
This could also be seen as pr fishing. Especially the part where you say I'd its one shot, it's low risk to claim.With that being said no one else has claimed vig (and claiming a one shot that's already been used up is very low risk to town), so I'm a bit less confidant in my Faddy-scum theory as time goes on.
This is weak and because of that I think you are just following Faddy and NF a bit in pushing a scum narrative on me.
What's wrong with voting? I like it. Just gotta watch out not to stack to much. But we need votes to move forward.
My read was Meatwad is a cop of some sort. It is the only thing that make sense. He wants to end the day so he get
I'm never somebody for the early votes. It's not like I'm attacking people who haven't voted yet. I just don't agree with attacking NF for the early vote.
And you are accusing me of something I haven't done yet.
Why does it matter who he chooses as Simon? Won't we just find out 2mrw? They would have to explain themselves and why they voted the way they did.
Faddy don't say who you plan to choose as Simon.
Not really. Someone has an investigative role. Eventually they want to use it to get a check and ending the day makes him look scummy enough to not be targeted in the night.
Where as someone like Fran is not a cop because he opened the day asking why I just didn't roleblock everyone.
this read about me, Faddy. First you have me as town and then you say that my post is scummy. It looks really wishy washy.
Because to single out someone as scum ensures we waste our time focus on a townie. The soft vig claim from Faddy was also scummy. I think he was just arguing with cabot for show and obviously didn't intend for him to die. Arguments day 1 were even less risky than usual for scum since no one was getting lynched.
I take it back. I'm leaning scum on Faddy the more that I think about it.
Not really. Someone has an investigative role. Eventually they want to use it to get a check and ending the day makes him look scummy enough to not be targeted in the night.
Where as someone like Fran is not a cop because he opened the day asking why I just didn't roleblock everyone.
Look, if you are town there is no way you really think meatwad is cop here. No way you would call that out.
If you are scum you are setting him up for future lynch.
Well you just need to live with it.
It was pretty much in line with what I was saying yesterday. Which you conveniently glossed over by the way. And it is typical for scum to one in and say RIP [dead townie] because they have a guilty conscience.
Why do you think Vere was targeted over yourself? He was a non factor I the game compared to you but he died and you are alive
I can live with naming a group I guess.I don't know if whoever gets Simon will be publicly announced so I will post a small group of people I am considering and then some instructions about what I think they should do with the power.
Why speculate at all about who the cop may be?How do you know he isn't?
Him ending the day yesterday wasn't his only cop tell either. Dun dun dun
It's seems you only entertained the theory to draw out other scum and never really believed it.
Now you believe it and giving faddy a scum lean?
This could also be seen as pr fishing. Especially the part where you say I'd its one shot, it's low risk to claim.
I can live with naming a group I guess.
Why speculate at all about who the cop may be?
Faddy says he never soft claimed, and yet his "got em' post make everyone assume he was the vig and it gave him Simon. That just feels overly manipulative to me.
Which post? I think I answered all of them.
My theory is that because both you and Swamped had me as scum yesterday why kill me when I can be a mislynch. Vere is a strong player who wasn't scum readed by anyone, or at least noone was explicit about it. Big difference.
So you definitely would have killed Verelios last night if you were mafia.
And that was the obvious thing to do, kill Vere for his reputation. So who knows that Vere is a strong player because he didn't really show it in this game when he was alive.
Oh, so you wanted the vig to claim but now you don't want to know who Faddy may want or not to give Simon to or why? Seems consistent.Why does it matter who he chooses as Simon? Won't we just find out 2mrw? They would have to explain themselves and why they voted the way they did.
Faddy don't say who you plan to choose as Simon.
Oh, so you wanted the vig to claim but now you don't want to know who Faddy may want or not to give Simon to or why? Seems consistent.
Then who was asking for you to claim?
As Apollo said, I didn't call for vig claim.Oh, so you wanted the vig to claim but now you don't want to know who Faddy may want or not to give Simon to or why? Seems consistent.
You mean the why should it matter who he chooses?As Apollo said, I didn't call for vig claim.
You still didn't answer the question.
Sorry meant "why does it matter" meaning why does it matter who he states in the thread who gets it. I assumed there would be a public announcement to who has the Simon. Also was worried about mafia killing the Simon chosen. Faddy cleated it up with the group thing.You mean the why should it matter who he chooses?
Well, yesterday there was a big fuss over who should get Simon until cabot was destroyed and everyone kind of agreed Faddy was the new fad in town. Chug pretty much wanted the role based on a platform of transparency and sexyness.
Of course its cool Faddy got the role, I read him as town and I liked how he played, even if I did mention last day that I was NOT sure he was the vig (As that turn out to be true, he wasn't). Faddy choosing who he wants as Simon is important because he is giving an important tool that could be used for or against town.
This reminds me of my situation in the Berserk game (Remember that?) when I had an egg that protected from harm, and... I gave it to someone who died. Faddy, if scum, would give it to a scum player for sure. But if he is town (As I think he is), he could tells us who he might want to give the role, even if he actually changes his mind later on, that is fine.
He could justify his decision after giving the role, but I don't see how this is any different than how everyone was appealing to be Simon last day. So my question was not really "Who are you giving the role to", more like "Give me the role you saucy tostada"
Night Discusion role, its too early for thunderdome, stealing the vote is a much better power to use on late game (Before mylo), and roleblock is a better role to use when we have lost a few town prs and blocking everyone is better for town. No Turbo is kinda pointless, but it does make it harder for scum to snipe a win later on, so its also better as a late power.1-shot, Thunderdome, only two chosen players can be voted for. Can't be used during mylo/lylo;
1-shot, No Turbo during the Day, it will end only once time runs out;
1-shot, everyone gets Roleblocked;
1-shot, Simon steals a player's voting right and becomes Doublevoter for that single Day. Can't be used during mylo/lylo;
1-shot, Simon allows for discussion, and only discussion, to happen during the following night on the game thread.
Well, that one is obvious, same reason why you vote someone, to get reads. How does that person react to be chosen. How does everyone else reacts to be chosen.Sorry meant "why does it matter" meaning why does it matter who he states in the thread who gets it. I assumed there would be a public announcement to who has the Simon. Also was worried about mafia killing the Simon chosen. Faddy cleated it up with the group thing.
Maybe a counter for cabot?No Turbo is kinda pointless, but it does make it harder for scum to snipe a win later on, so its also better as a late power.
Reading his pm, he could turbo any day w/o suspicion basically. That rule doesn't help him.No that is pro cabot since it allow him to hammer without any suspicion because otherwise the day would end without a majority being reached.
Reading his pm, he could turbo any day w/o suspicion basically. That rule doesn't help him.
But wasn't his vote secret? As in he didn't have to post it in the thread, he had to pm it. So its safe either way, only he doesn't stop discussion. Its effectively useless when Simon uses his power.It does help him because otherwise the day would end without a majority and we would know something was up. This way the day wouldn't end but he could still secretly switch his vote.
But wasn't his vote secret? As in he didn't have to post it in the thread, he had to pm it. So its safe either way, only he doesn't stop discussion. Its effectively useless when Simon uses his power.