Malus, Fran, DC, and Salva could be all be part of the scum team. Obviously not all of them because that would be a weird size
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Simon Says Mafia - I would never lie to you, please do what I say
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I feel like I have a better sense of who town is at this point. Many people have done things that scream "town" to me. I'm going to give exo a re-read, because I didn't like the way he opportunistically pounced on scum-reading me at the end of D1, but that might have just been my perception so I need to check it again.
Basically, I feel I need to re-read exo and DCPat. Zeke is also a blindspot, but not really getting scum vibes.
And re-read you Chuggs <3
But you changing your read on me is a point in your favor. Scum would want to keep around "scum" reads as much as they can so they can get mislynches.
Ah crap.
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==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start
Fran (2 votes)
DCPat - #575 #579
DCPat - #579 (Double)
DCPat (2 votes)
Never Forever - #470 (Double)
SalvaPot (2 votes)
exodus - #582 (Double)
exodus (2 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #580 (Double)
Swamped (2 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #558 (Double)
Faddy (0 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #574 (Double) #580
Post Counts:
Faddy: 35 TheChuggernaut: 25 EzekelRAGE: 19 DCPat: 17 Apollo: 16 SalvaPot: 16 Fran: 15 exodus: 11 Swamped: 6 Never Forever: 4 Meatwad: 3 malus: 3
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
Fran (2 votes)
DCPat - #579 (Double)
DCPat (2 votes)
Never Forever - #470 (Double)
SalvaPot (2 votes)
exodus - #582 (Double)
exodus (2 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #580 (Double)
Swamped (2 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #558 (Double)
Faddy (0 votes)
Post Counts:
Faddy: 35 TheChuggernaut: 25 EzekelRAGE: 19 DCPat: 17 Apollo: 16 SalvaPot: 16 Fran: 15 exodus: 11 Swamped: 6 Never Forever: 4 Meatwad: 3 malus: 3
Current Countdown:
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After the shot DCPAT immediately coming in and voting me for simon without any comment is classic scum DCPAT.
He didn't even really make a comment on cabot flipping or look to start solving the game like me, you and to some extent Swamped did. There was no indication they were out to solve the game.
I didn't narrowed it down to Vere or Cabot. There is an important word there: "meta". This was 12hs into the game with little more than 100 posts. Chugger asked about who could be Simon and, with little content so far, I gave him some meta reads. This is my first game with Meatwad, Apollo and NF and I haven't played with Salva, Exodus or DC since forever.
Maybe if you didn't killed Cabot in the first 24hs in the game we would have more interactions to go on, but we were at a point were everyone was just light proding and, besides Faddy everyone was acting the same. What bothers me is the double standard: Nobody but Faddy pushed Cabot but the only one getting heat for it is me. Really, at this point, it's starting to be really annoying.
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Sure. We should still try to avoid hammering obviously, but I don't think it hurts to get the ball rolling.
I may not be around much for the rest of the day, but I think I'm going to stick with my Salva vote. I don't have a strong enough opinion on DC and don't have time to reread everything.
Zeke's pretty all over the place so despite his vote on me, I'm feeling pretty town on him.
Zeke's pretty all over the place so despite his vote on me, I'm feeling pretty town on him.
Hey yeah I apologize I've been busy all weekend and will be busy all day. Right now I'm feeling pretty good about Apollo, Exodus and Fran being Town. Neutral reads on everybody else atm
How am i being stubborn?
Examples of being all over the place?
Also, do you care to answer my post from earlier? Seemed like instead of answering it, you handwaved the discussion with "just town infighting".
Being on Faddy then me despite my scumreading him feels pretty polar to me.
It's simple. He soft claimed vig and I accepted him as town for that. I said that if he wasn't the big then the soft claim would feel scummy to me. Someone else and spoke up claiming vig, which shifted me to a scumread on Faddy.
It's not that complicated.
An omgus vote would go to NF or Faddy. You didn't vote me or pushed me that hard. Not enough omgus.
You really think I come out with a scum read on a partner.
Then when asked to back it up I dumpster him with 5 quotes and then come back with another bit about how he was all over the place on his simon choice and vote for NF.
If you could read between the lines of what I was saying to Zeke it was kind of obvious I didn't shoot. And generally don't think vigs should shoot blindly on day 1. See some votes and a flip first, never mind that I never even waited for Cabot's response. I immediately asked for a claim on day 2 because it wasn't smart for me to hold the claim longer when someone else deserved a lot of town cred.
Why do you think it was scummy? I got protected by the simon power and Apollo got to hide in the bunch. Apollo could have spoken up anytime she wanted.
I will see about that. I'm
Nothing to claim.
Fran feels like town Fran to me. I've played
with both town and scum Fran and this feels more like town Fran. I'm like 90% sure Faddy is town
That's not all over the place though. They both sort of deal with each other.
You have been very flip floppy on Faddy.
First you believed he was scum with cabot, then end of the day you said you only entertained it to sus out possible scum. OK
Then after the reveal he wasnt the shooter, you had him as town. IIRC.
I asked you more about your read on faddy, you then flipped to scum leaning faddy.
Ok, This is your read list from day 1, after you thought faddy was the vig.
You have him as scum. How does this list change that you know faddy didnt shoot.
You said it would change significantly.
I can see exodus being scum. I had him as light town but I can definitely see how his sudden flip on me from calling out cabot was over done because he knew I was right about cabot. And then the move to Swamped for little reason after that.
Definitely should be in consideration for later days but I really think DCPat is just scum here.
Definitely should be in consideration for later days but I really think DCPat is just scum here.
Why Malus? I have him as null so I would like some reads for him.
I'm still leaning to vote DCPat and Exodus, in that order.
A few things bug me about malus. He considered cabot for Simon, something is expect from scum. His interactions with Faddy. He spent a number of posts D1 seriously considering the idea of Faddy being under a posting restriction, trying to game it. His weird meta argument before that for why Faddy might be posting as he was. His reads list- I have no idea why he's scum reading DCPat or NF because he never told us, and his argument for not liking Salva, who he ends up calling our "best bet" is merely this that he "hasn't contributed much" and has made some "strange posts". It's super weak. None of this makes me feel like malus is actually trying to solve the game
Double: EzekelRAGE
Trying to paint me as scum because I'm indecisive? As town, I know shit all and my opinion is prone to change. I thought you were being the same way but your incessant hounding about this is giving me some strong scum vibes.
So instructions for Simon.
DO NOT pick the roleblock, check info should be outed tomorrow imo. Roleblock should be used on Night 3!
Only Thunderdome if you have some really strong reads and reconsider everything on the flip.
Stealing a vote, no turbo, open night chat are fine options to use at this stage. Don't feel you have to go for broke.
DO NOT pick the roleblock, check info should be outed tomorrow imo. Roleblock should be used on Night 3!
Only Thunderdome if you have some really strong reads and reconsider everything on the flip.
Stealing a vote, no turbo, open night chat are fine options to use at this stage. Don't feel you have to go for broke.
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==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start
DCPat (4 votes)
Never Forever - #470 (Double)
TheChuggernaut - #612 (Double)
EzekelRAGE (2 votes)
exodus - #642 (Double)
SalvaPot (2 votes)
exodus - #582 (Double) #642
malus - #623 #630
malus - #630 (Double)
Fran (2 votes)
DCPat - #575 #579
DCPat - #579 (Double)
exodus (2 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #580 (Double)
Faddy (0 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #574 (Double) #580
Swamped (0 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #558 (Double) #612
Not voting: Fran, SalvaPot, Faddy
Post Counts:
Faddy: 42 TheChuggernaut: 36 DCPat: 22 EzekelRAGE: 21 Apollo: 18 Fran: 17 SalvaPot: 16 exodus: 15 Swamped: 8 malus: 7 Meatwad: 4 Never Forever: 4
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
DCPat (4 votes)
Never Forever - #470 (Double)
TheChuggernaut - #612 (Double)
EzekelRAGE (2 votes)
exodus - #642 (Double)
SalvaPot (2 votes)
malus - #630 (Double)
Fran (2 votes)
DCPat - #579 (Double)
exodus (2 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #580 (Double)
Faddy (0 votes)
Swamped (0 votes)
Not voting: Fran, SalvaPot, Faddy
Post Counts:
Faddy: 42 TheChuggernaut: 36 DCPat: 22 EzekelRAGE: 21 Apollo: 18 Fran: 17 SalvaPot: 16 exodus: 15 Swamped: 8 malus: 7 Meatwad: 4 Never Forever: 4
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I think it was manipulative. I'm not sure if it was scummy anymore.
Also, scum reads day 1 are meaningless, especially when there's no lynch on the table. Scum will always do some infighting for show, guaranteed. I'm not saying that makes you scummy, I'm just saying it does little to buy you townie points in my book.
In the end I feel it's far more valuable to take my own unique stance and reads on the situation. Scum are just going to get by by agreeing with the popular opinion.
If I get lynched, at least you'll get more value out of it. If I put myself in the spotlight by taking a controversial stance, so be it.
I think you need to start looking at the majority just coasting by.
Really though, I'm realizing this double vote has been a failure. We haven't been able to put proper pressure on anyone yet since everyone is afraid to cast votes. Everyone is abstaining from voting outside of a few people and those votes are practically meaningless when it's just 1-2 people.
If I get lynched, at least you'll get more value out of it. If I put myself in the spotlight by taking a controversial stance, so be it.
I think you need to start looking at the majority just coasting by.
Really though, I'm realizing this double vote has been a failure. We haven't been able to put proper pressure on anyone yet since everyone is afraid to cast votes. Everyone is abstaining from voting outside of a few people and those votes are practically meaningless when it's just 1-2 people.