This is the exact non-denial that flux used in MafiEra.
It is obvious you are a PR. If you don't want to claim the exact role just say you are a PR and I am right.
I think you're misreading that. They're saying Apollo is our other semi-confirmed (or someone else), and she'd also want to hear more from SalvaPot and Flux.
Honestly my current theory is the most obvious one. He is lying about his role, he can't do what he claims he can do, he is claiming now so he won't be killed nor lynched.But if Faddy is indeed a scum governer, that could explain why he was so blase on D1 with the colors. He felt in no danger of getting lynched. Perhaps he can even take down a townie (if the other scum governor role I've seen is anything to go by).
But argh, his interactions with cabot D1... Could that really by scum vs scum?
Ah, that makes more sense, but I already talked a lot. But sure, I still have more to say.I think you're misreading that. They're saying Apollo is our other semi-confirmed (or someone else), and she'd also want to hear more from SalvaPot and Flux.
And who would that help? Town? What does town gain from me making a statement like that?
Scum? Well scum does benefit, because they know I am useful (or at least claim to be) and can bump me off before I can be too useful.
So I do have to wonder if your request here is being made with the best interest of town at heart or your own best interests and where those might lie
The thing though, is why make the claim when Faddy was already being town read. This is what made people want to lynch him to verify it. He wouldn't have been a lynch target without it. That's what brought on the suspicion.Honestly my current theory is the most obvious one. He is lying about his role, he can't do what he claims he can do, he is claiming now so he won't be killed nor lynched.
The thing though, is why make the claim when Faddy was already being town read. This is what made people want to lynch him to verify it. He wouldn't have been a lynch target without it. That's what brought on the suspicion.
So it's either the truth, or it's a weird gambit to intentionally lay on the suspicion so that people think "he wouldn't possibly do that as scum." Or what Faddy said before, and he was hoping more people would simply go along with it.
Why I think I'll be for lynching Faddy this day phase, until the end, is because I prefer verifying him through a no-lynch than a mislynch.
You want to lynch meatwad... the player you were so sure was cop.It could be as simple as them having 4 members. It could be a Serial Killer who has decided not to shoot yet
I'm pretty sure they have a direct cop counter with a godfather or ninja -or- we don't have a cop at all.
I think there are a good few posibilities but I think a non-shooting SK is most likely or it is Apollo who already showed a day kill.
Look for those that don't believe me here is a compromise. We should lynch Meatwad. If he is scum then I am even more lock clear unless you think after cabot is vigged I immediately call out my partner again.
I don't really see a good case for him to be town outside of a light PR read which now seems wrong.
You want to lynch meatwad... the player you were so sure was cop.
Scum will kill someone this night phase regardless of what happens. We're at a point where a mislynch is likely. So instead of 2 townies dying before D4, we could simply have 1 and then having the information provided by your lynch. That's important.You are giving scum a free kill if you only want to lynch me to confirm something rather than it be a genuine scum read.
Scum will kill someone this night phase regardless of what happens. We're at a point where a mislynch is likely. So instead of 2 townies dying before D4, we could simply have 1 and then having the information provided by your lynch. That's important.
Because that's just how it is. Things are clearly uncertain right now, and even more so with your claim. You don't seem concrete on Meatwad's alignment, yourself. Instead of taking the risk—which it is—we now have a less risky avenue through lynching you which could be rewarding by hitting scum, or rewarding by confirming your power and determining you're town (and also confirming that we do indeed have several no lynch factors at play in this game).
You want to coast on your PR like DCPat did. You are not solving the game. The only reason you didn't get lynched yesterday is because I said you were a PR and we shouldn't lynch you. And I made sure you got to 5 posts before we lynched DCPat because I wanted you to stay in the game.
I knew you were a PR on night 1. Why kill verelios over you?
This is exactly the reason why I don't buy the claim, since you started talking in no-colors you have pretty much assumed you had the game figured and managable. No way in hell would you make a claim like that unless it was designed to save your hide. Your claim doesn't help town, it helps yourself. It would have just been better, as a town player, to keep it to yourself. You know this. You claimed this early with such a claim to stay in the game as long as possible.You want to coast on your PR like DCPat did. You are not solving the game. The only reason you didn't get lynched yesterday is because I said you were a PR and we shouldn't lynch you. And I made sure you got to 5 posts before we lynched DCPat because I wanted you to stay in the game.
I knew you were a PR on night 1. Why kill verelios over you?
While I would love to find out how you just "knew" I was a PR on night 1, I am done playing this game with you. I am not going to make a claim as I don't believe that is in the best interest of the town. Badgering a townie into roleclaiming is not solving the game either I might add.
I thought the reason why you didn't used the thunderdome its because it was too early?I knew you were a PR as soon as I called you cabot's partner and you overreacted to it.
Reading the game is how I knew. It is also the reason I did not put you in a thunderdome, go look at the start of day 2. I explained this.
I knew you were a PR as soon as I called you cabot's partner and you overreacted to it.
Reading the game is how I knew. It is also the reason I did not put you in a thunderdome, go look at the start of day 2. I explained this.
I thought the reason why you didn't used the thunderdome its because it was too early?
My read was Meatwad is a cop of some sort. It is the only thing that make sense. He wants to end the day so he gets his check. Mafia should definitely be killing him at some point.
I had a thought that Swamped could have been the vig since the weird posting around the shot. She saw the PLEASE WAIT, then posted about agreeing with my cabot stuff after the flip happened. I had read that as her justifying the shot after she did it because why even post outdated info when you know something is happening.
Those are the main reasons I did not want to just thunderdome. Although we can probably just kill DCPAT today.
You deduced that much yet you still offered me up as a lynch candidate a page ago. So why were you willing to have town lynch one of their PR's?
Oh man please let's not add Jesters into the equation.Is this an obvious ploy to look like a Jester? That's the only reason I can see for such hard PR fishing. He has to know that he's a guaranteed lynch after going after Meatwad so far.
Is this an obvious ploy to look like a Jester? That's the only reason I can see for such hard PR fishing. He has to know that he's a guaranteed lynch after going after Meatwad so far.
Jester or not, it wouldn't matter at this point. With the power of Simon from the start, though, I think there would have been easier ways to achieve the goal. Like, creating a Thunderdome with himself and Apollo or something.Is this an obvious ploy to look like a Jester? That's the only reason I can see for such hard PR fishing. He has to know that he's a guaranteed lynch after going after Meatwad so far.
Jester or not, it wouldn't matter at this point. With the power of Simon from the start, though, I think there would have been easier ways to achieve the goal. Like, creating a Thunderdome with himself and Apollo or something.
I don't think it's worth considering.
Basically to have people remove their votes from him, right? Sure, that's a possibility.
I don't see it with Fran, and I'm not too sure I see it with Salva, but I do get bad vibes from malus.
Basically to have people remove their votes from him, right? Sure, that's a possibility.
I don't see it with Fran, and I'm not too sure I see it with Salva, but I do get bad vibes from malus.
My case for Fran being town is that I don't think scum would push so hard against an unlynchable townie.
Honestly I'm not believing Faddy's claim. Not the governor part (what's the point to lie about that) but that he is a townie one. No way that town has not one BUT 2 lynchproof roles. That's crazy and I never seen a game like that. Even more in a small game like ours.
Governor can't be scum as any lynchproof power is extremely OP as scum but I can see Faddy being a neutral. I just have not a clue about what his winning condition could be.
So, Faddy are you a neutral?
That't not how a governor works. A governor uses his role to end the day in a no lynch. Cabot's role was a secret hammer vote. Both of them are completely unrelated.
What's the connection? Arguments between the two with cabot saying that Fran shouldn't be Simon? There's little there, unless you emphasize that the conflict was artificial, similar to cabot's support of Never Forever.You don't think Fran and cabot have a lot of partner potential?
You mean that there was essentially nothing to it? Maybe, but that goes for many of the people who lynched him on D2.
What? Why?You don't think with me unlynchable on night 1 he would certainly target verelios?
Not really. When I strongly believe someone's lying, I'll do the same.
I don't necessarily town read him, but I definitely don't scum read him. He's really insistent on seeing you lynched today, and it's not like you're a threat to scum if he was. There's no real reason to put himself out like that, especially if he knew for sure you're not scum and we'd discover it ourselves through your lynch.
What's the connection? Arguments between the two with cabot saying that Fran shouldn't be Simon? There's little there, unless you emphasize that the conflict was artificial, similar to cabot's support of Never Forever.
You mean that there was essentially nothing to it? Maybe, but that goes for many of the people who lynched him on D2.
What? Why?
Not really. When I strongly believe someone's lying, I'll do the same.
I don't necessarily town read him, but I definitely don't scum read him. He's really insistent on seeing you lynched today, and it's not like you're a threat to scum if he was. There's no real reason to put himself out like that, especially if he knew for sure you're not scum and we'd discover it ourselves through your lynch.
Still unsure. My meta candidates were Cabot, Faddy, Vere or Swamped but Faddy isn't helping so he is out now and Swamped has done little.
Yes, but Verelios was NK'd, not lynched. I thought you were saying that Fran's opinion represented a reason for why Verelios was killed.Cabot is dead, I'm unlynchable, he is scum reading swamped. His option there is to lynch Verelios.
Yes, but Verelios was NK'd, not lynched. I thought you were saying that Fran's opinion represented a reason for why Verelios was killed.
[He/him] Fran: Fran! Mah boi! How you holding up? Man, everyone seems intent on giving you the old necksnap, huh? But I can't blame them, you have not been able to put a good defense! I do admit your interactions with cabot are... weird. Real weird. I´m not convinced you are scum, but you seem to be...
Then we're on the same page. So you're saying it'd be Verelios because he was the one Fran artificially "town read" through meta? It's not like that was the opinion of the majority. I think it's a weird point to determine why Verelios would have been NK'd.
Then we're on the same page. So you're saying it'd be Verelios because he was the one Fran artificially "town read" through meta? It's not like that was the opinion of the majority. I think it's a weird point to determine why Verelios would have been NK'd.
Oh yeah, speaking of which, why did we decide that the Simon wouldn't outright say who's going to be the next one in this thread? So that scum doesn't kill them or they don't get day killed? Why does that matter? I don't like the idea of passing the power around in the shadows.
Plus, I don't know if I saw what the priority order is. If Simon is NK'd, I assume that the modifier they chose will still go into effect that day.