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Simon Says Mafia - I would never lie to you, please do what I say
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It's a weird thing, to be able to discuss during the night phase.
Well, unless you're going to go on about being a jester who also has a twilight command for some reason, I'll buy your initial claim, once again. No way scum could do this, so Faddy's pretty much town along with Apollo, in my eyes.
Well, unless you're going to go on about being a jester who also has a twilight command for some reason, I'll buy your initial claim, once again. No way scum could do this, so Faddy's pretty much town along with Apollo, in my eyes.
They can be neutral but the fact is that they claimed right away. That is more townie.
If I didn't post got em when I did it would have been obvious Apollo took the shot.
Absolutely not scum. Neutral, slightly possible, but one with a single day shot? Don't know about that.
I don't think it's worth considering anything but town right now.
In my opinion scum is 100% impossible. No scum would shoot their buddy on day 1.
Neutral day serial killer is probably also not the case. A game this small could be heavily influenced by any sk present, so I don't think there is one.
So, we have 2 unlynchables? In a 14 players game?
Pretty much. And it doesn't have nice words.
Neutral, possible.
Scum, no way. A secret day shot on a scum partner is a weird gambit.
Pretty much. And it doesn't have nice words.
Neutral, possible.
Scum, no way. A secret day shot on a scum partner is a weird gambit.
Yeah with 2 unlynchables a scum team of 4 would make sense.
But why would scum block Meatwad 2 nights in a row? They couldn't have known he was a power role unless they also checked him Night 1 and I think that's unlikely since I don't remember Meatwad being particularly noticeable on Day 1.
How am I playing scummy?
I am playing fast and loose. That is super town.
I am making good arguments, making reads, trying to solve the game. Without me this game would be literally dead.
Why would I not want to vote when I already made my intentions clear? What benefit would I have?
I've never hammered before and I'm still not a fan because it kind of excludes the people that appear at day end from participating.
If the scum team has a roleblocker he is the only person who was close to softing a PR on day 1.
So wrong. Not just wrong but so wrong.
If a mafia roleblock is looking for a soft claim or who they think is PR that is by far the best lead on day 1.
Unless he is going after his partner he is always going after a town or neutral.
He thought I was lying about my role.
You can't even make it a whole page without flip flopping on me!
Neutral survivor can still be considered full town in my eyes. :p
Sure, but he went in hard. It's not like he was the only one with doubt, hence your lynch, but he was the most outspoken about you outright lying. It's a lot of certainty, and it'd have to look bad if it turned out your role was real (this scenario) or you were lying but still flipped town. I guess it'd look less bad if you flipped neutral.
He was the most certain I was outright lying because as scum he has the most knowledge of roles in the game.
2 unlynchables was too unbalanced for his scum team. Which is why if it is Fran it is definitely a team of 3 and a neutral
So with two unlynchables, would that mean exodus was right about scum having more vote manipulation?
There have been no extra kills.
There have been no extra kills.
They've got something. I'm still worried about a neutral arsonist.
If it is an arsonist people usually get alerted when they get doused. So if no one is doused then it isn't an issue imo
Same for poison. People get told if they are poisoned.
What...what if passing on the Simon role is the dousing mechanism D:
Btw, I'm gonna thunderdome two quiet players, maybe Malus and Salvapot. I feel like we focus a lot on the loud players anyway, so this might be a change for our brains and hey, we might hit scum. Thoughts?
Other remaining powers are no turbo (good one, but a bit boring), everyone RB'ed (I feel like this is more useful endgame when we want to stop a mafia kill), and steal a players vote and become a double voter (this is really interesting, and while I like my reads I'm not 100% confident in them so I'm leaning against this one)
I think scum just got the worst possible outcome where the day vig hits scum and we lynch both unlynchables. It would have been just as likely that scum hits one or both unlynchable before they can use their power or the day vig hits a town member. Day vig hitting town would actually have been more likely.
So I'm not sure if scum really needs a counter.
So I'm not sure if scum really needs a counter.
I agree with both of these. With scum starting 1 kill ahead, that might be what it comes down to. That, and either 4 scum or 3 scum + 1 hostile neutral.
We came to the conclusion the roleblock did not stop the mafia kill
Sorry, Faddy. Was in class and didn't see your vote for Fran post till now. I would of done it, but there was no talking town out of that vote for you anyway.
Read the Simon role. It says the power is only for the Day.
It was meant to block myself, Apollo, cabot and maybe DCPat. Or other day powers.
I got confirmation my power, despite happening after the end of day, was considered a day action.