I mean, we've been drinking a bunch of wine in front of us during this entire back and forth so I don't think it's too out there
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Simon Says Mafia - I would never lie to you, please do what I say
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I mean, we've been drinking a bunch of wine in front of us during this entire back and forth so I don't think it's too out there
I knowwwww. Just lynch me already. The RB power however does not stop a kill, as it only takes affect during the day (so, powers like Apollo's, Cabot's and Faddy's). So had I chosen RB it would have just been a normal day, and I wanted to do something different. But really, RB was the safest choice.
Actually, maybe I should I chosen vote stealing, as that is a power better in my hands than scum's. But that power isn't allowed during lylo either, so hopefully we're ok on that front.
Swamped! What do you feel about the people up for lynch today, where are you going to put a vote.
I'll say this: not playing the thunderdome card means Simon can tell us if tomorrow is Mylo or not. So at least we have that going for us
==== DAY 4 VOTES ====
Day Start
Fran (3 votes)
FluxWaveZ - #1,410
EzekelRAGE - #1,478
TheChuggernaut - #1,482
Swamped (2 votes)
exodus - #1,412
SalvaPot - #1,418
TheChuggernaut (2 votes)
Fran - #1,427
malus - #1,438
SalvaPot (0 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #1,391 #1,482
malus (0 votes)
SalvaPot - #1,383 #1,418
Not voting: Swamped, Meatwad, Apollo
Post Counts:
TheChuggernaut: 51 EzekelRAGE: 20 Fran: 19 FluxWaveZ: 15 SalvaPot: 8 malus: 7 Meatwad: 6 exodus: 5 Swamped: 3 Apollo: 3
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
Fran (3 votes)
FluxWaveZ - #1,410
EzekelRAGE - #1,478
TheChuggernaut - #1,482
Swamped (2 votes)
exodus - #1,412
SalvaPot - #1,418
TheChuggernaut (2 votes)
Fran - #1,427
malus - #1,438
SalvaPot (0 votes)
malus (0 votes)
Not voting: Swamped, Meatwad, Apollo
Post Counts:
TheChuggernaut: 51 EzekelRAGE: 20 Fran: 19 FluxWaveZ: 15 SalvaPot: 8 malus: 7 Meatwad: 6 exodus: 5 Swamped: 3 Apollo: 3
Current Countdown:
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Malus seems to be THE number 1 most scumread player. Followed by Salva and Fran, and some Chugg here and there
I'm voting Malus. His top scum reads are me, Chuggs and Fran. Did he just pick the loudest people? I just feel like his posts don't do a lot to really dig deep and scumhunt. Plus that cabot vote on him D1 is still sticking out to me.
This post just feels like he randomly chose to scumread Chuggs instead of me, even though the exact same reasoning could be applied to me. He hasn't really dug into why I'm less likely to be scum than Chuggs. In fact, I feel there is more reason to scumread me now given my gaffe (I honestly didn't think about how useful the turbo power could be in lylo!!).
This was after Faddy is the confirmed lynch. Bomb is certainly not the first thing that came to my mind when I saw Faddy was about to get lynched. Malus was the hammer on that vote. Malus seems quite concerned that he could die. Also, remember how reticent he was to put that last vote on Faddy? Maybe the scum team figured there was a bomb role around, perhaps to counter cabot's role.
Malus goes from lean town on exo to strong town. But the reasoning in each post is exactly the same?! To me, it feels like malus read the room that exo was likely not going to get lynched since many players started townreading him during the course of D3.
VOTE: Malus
I'm voting Malus. His top scum reads are me, Chuggs and Fran. Did he just pick the loudest people? I just feel like his posts don't do a lot to really dig deep and scumhunt. Plus that cabot vote on him D1 is still sticking out to me.
This post just feels like he randomly chose to scumread Chuggs instead of me, even though the exact same reasoning could be applied to me. He hasn't really dug into why I'm less likely to be scum than Chuggs. In fact, I feel there is more reason to scumread me now given my gaffe (I honestly didn't think about how useful the turbo power could be in lylo!!).
This was after Faddy is the confirmed lynch. Bomb is certainly not the first thing that came to my mind when I saw Faddy was about to get lynched. Malus was the hammer on that vote. Malus seems quite concerned that he could die. Also, remember how reticent he was to put that last vote on Faddy? Maybe the scum team figured there was a bomb role around, perhaps to counter cabot's role.
Malus goes from lean town on exo to strong town. But the reasoning in each post is exactly the same?! To me, it feels like malus read the room that exo was likely not going to get lynched since many players started townreading him during the course of D3.
VOTE: Malus
Yeah. This is why I'm kicking myself. But I also thought Faddy had a point about not using the thunderdome today. I was probably wrong.
I thought about it, but didn't voice it. We had just come from a game where Faddy was the bomb.
Oh ok. malus was in that game?
I will let him comment on that comment.
On D2, the lynch choices were between DCPat (4 double votes), malus (3 double votes), exo (2 double votes) and Salva (2 double votes). Wasn't much vote switching going on, but seems
I will counter this. There are likely only 2 scum left. Yet malus is on at least 6-7 people's list. How is this a setup for a mislynch?
I will counter this. There are likely only 2 scum left. Yet malus is on at least 6-7 people's list. How is this a setup for a mislynch?
I feel like they could of easily seen where the wind was blowing and tried to jump on it.
I don't like how scummy you are sounding now, you are extra cheerful yet apologetic when evil.
I townread him because he's been pretty active and open about his reads. If he's scum I'll be so sad, but it will be well played. His post during N3 about telling people not to scumread him after Faddy's flip felt like he had a...almost a guilty conscience? But apart from that, I feel like we've been trying to solve the game together.
Did you read the posts I made today about Chuggs? Don't you think that he has been parroting Faddy?
Same to you if your scum. If you ended up pocketing me after I straight up said I was afraid of you pocketing me I'm going to be very, very sad. Anyway, if the Malus vote doesn't take off are you planing on changing your vote or are you going to leave it as is.
Oh, and this is fully meta, but I feel like that town Fran accusing me of parroting last game where I turned out to be town would be hesitant to do that again. This just feels like scum Fran just wanting to make this lynch happen. I don't think he actually believes what he's saying
What? I didn't accussed you of parroting, Kyan did. I accused you on giving a forced town read on malus based on false meta (he not doing vote stats was a town read on D1).
And this post must be one of the worst post I have ever seen. Using false meta arguments on D4 and not acknowledging all the posts that I did today calling you scum it's complete nonsense.
You are free to discuss them if you want. That's if you are not afraid.
Also, this is all you will say about that post? Nothing about the false meta that you tried to use as an excuse?
It's the same as all your other posts today. You're just grasping at straws and trying to force a scum read of someone that you don't think is scum because you are scum. That meta read is just one example on top of plenty of others that I've given about how you're scummy as fuck. You realize your cornered so you're latching onto to the smallest things and trying to force a read like that vote from Zeke. There's no turbo today, there is absolutely nothing wrong with him placing a vote somewhere he's leaning right now.
And to build off that, Salva pops in and gives some weak read on Malus and you didn't even bat an eye at that, but Zeke puts a vote on you, and you're all over that.
I don't think malus is a good vote right now for the simple reason that cabot voted for him on D1 (#182), without explanation at that. His other votes were Faddy, and Never Forever. I would say that his early votes were all on town players. If he were to vote scum eventually during that phase (and maybe towards the end), he would give it solid reasoning and points as to why he'd think they should be Simon. Voting for them out of nowhere without explanation would create a connection. If cabot didn't get shot, there probably would have been a bunch of other votes before the end from him.
I also feel like malus gives me the same vibes as in MafiEra.
I also feel like malus gives me the same vibes as in MafiEra.
How do you know that I don't think you are scum? I have been pretty explicit about why you are scum. Instead your read on me is basically "what Faddy said". You never made an original argument about why do you think I'm scum. Wait! That's not true. You made one a couple of minutes ago, based on false meta about a previous game. It seems that without Faddy around to parrot him you are having some trouble.
How the hell I'm scummy when you are USING FALSE META to claim that I'm scum? Did I lied? Didn't it go exactly as I said? I can't believe that I have to answer to this bullshit.
I called out Zeke because he never talked about me until a couple of minutes ago. He jumped on the easiest wagon he could find.
What do I have to say something about a read Salva did on Malus? Let them fight and get reads. But of course I will be all over when someone makes a weak vote on me, because I know my aligment and I know that he isn't right.
Should I just stay quiet and let town mislynch me? Fuck that. I'm not another lynchproof that will reward town for fucking up.
BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM. Man, I don't even need to look back on your previous days because of how scummy you have been acting today. I'm scum because I agreed with Faddy on things is literally your entire scum read and that shit is laughable.
Oh I'm sorry, now your scum reading me because I misremembered something in a previous game. Good catch Fran, have fun trying to ride that all the way to the end of the day.
And Salva did the exact same thing and you ignored it to get reads? Miss me with this bullshit
I strongly believe Chugg is town. Swamped, eh. I'll echo the sentiment that her concern over not thunderdoming feels a little forced, but she feels mostly okay to me. Fran I am becoming more suspicious of. His case against Chugg seems like a huge reach. Would probably rather vote malus or Salva but I need to read the arguments against him in more detail. I have a killer headache right now so bear with me please.
i mentioned you with malus before though. You are both in the same boat of the reactions to faddy's claim.
With the exception of vere, all confirmed townies have been killed. Why would you die over Apollo?
I don't think I said tonight, but I am going to die soon. I'm either getting lynched today, NK'd tonight if I'm right, or lynched tomorrow if I'm wrong.
They could keep Apollo alive because she's not on the right track or actively solving as much as another. But I think she'd still be the choice this night phase.
Yeah, Apollo is probably dying soon. I think scum just let her slide because she hasn't been much of a factor outside of the shot and she's probably just a vanilla town now that she took the shot.
Went back to read the reactions and discussions around Faddy's role claim. The two who were heavily doubting his claim from the start were Fran and malus. I think a lot of my suspicion around Fran comes from here, and also what Faddy was talking about:
No matter what Faddy had flipped as, or if his role existed or not, Fran would have been able to support what he previously said. And if Faddy's role did turn out to be truthful, he'd still justify going after him by saying that he was neutral (or possibly changing his argument to him being scum).
We then see Faddy's flip when D3 ends in a no-lynch, and Fran makes only a single post (#1,261) in a fairly important night phase where he gives no insight at all into what he thinks of Faddy anymore. Just tries to grasp onto a talking point exodus introduces by saying that it's possible Apollo is neutral.
Faddy then dies. Obviously, because Fran wouldn't have been able to build a case for his lynch any longer, among other reasons, and Faddy would have continued going after Fran during this day phase.
I feel like it's hedging best in order to justify wanting to absolutely vote for him. One part of it is not dimissing the existence of the role itself, but that it couldn't be town aligned due to DCPat. However, it couldn't be scum because a role like that would be too powerful for them to have. So then, without committing to either side, Fran proposes that Faddy could be a neutral player and justifies going after him for that.
No matter what Faddy had flipped as, or if his role existed or not, Fran would have been able to support what he previously said. And if Faddy's role did turn out to be truthful, he'd still justify going after him by saying that he was neutral (or possibly changing his argument to him being scum).
We then see Faddy's flip when D3 ends in a no-lynch, and Fran makes only a single post (#1,261) in a fairly important night phase where he gives no insight at all into what he thinks of Faddy anymore. Just tries to grasp onto a talking point exodus introduces by saying that it's possible Apollo is neutral.
Faddy then dies. Obviously, because Fran wouldn't have been able to build a case for his lynch any longer, among other reasons, and Faddy would have continued going after Fran during this day phase.