Likely. Their statement isn't hollow. They are making sure they have their ducks in a row to avoid a wrongful termination.
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Sitting In Starbucks While Black
- Thread starter LionPride
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Likely. Their statement isn't hollow. They are making sure they have their ducks in a row to avoid a wrongful termination.
Can't even be sleeping in your car while on a date night, either.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...ce-shooting-asleep-mayor-butts-369902981.html
the answer to your thought is already in this thread
"Lauren said another woman had entered the Starbucks minutes before the men were arrested and was given the bathroom code without having to buy anything and that another person in the restaurant at the time of the incident "announced that she had been sitting at Starbucks for the past couple of hours without buying anything."
I'm guessing their weakass "our bad" was getting too much pushback.
https://news.starbucks.com/views/st...ter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=springfy18
https://news.starbucks.com/views/st...ter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=springfy18
'please, please don't sue us'
Man now I gotta walk by this Starbucks every day to work
Though it still doesn't top walking every day by the Little Caesars near Broad and Girard where a cashier threw a cash register at a robber
Pretty much. They can eat a bag of shit with that bullshit. 2018 and you need to "learn from this"??
Can put a man on the fucking moon but can't figure out how to not be racist?
The funny part to me is that Starbucks is right near Rittenhouse Square, AKA the super rich district in downtown with lots of foot traffic and such, like think fancy tea spots and parks
like people loiter all the goddamn time, from college students to flops like me who are just reading their Kindle
Rofl, enjoy explaining that on your job interviews, ex-manager.
I'll never understand defending a giant ass corporation's pocket change with your life.
I really don't like that Starbucks is taking the brunt of the criticism here.
If the cops weren't pieces of shit, they would have never arrested them, held them for 9hrs, and we're only released because the DA declined to arraign them.
As usual, cops were the biggest pieces of shit here.
Also, man all of you "it wasn't racially motived" folks sure disappeared like a bunch of roaches.
If the cops weren't pieces of shit, they would have never arrested them, held them for 9hrs, and we're only released because the DA declined to arraign them.
As usual, cops were the biggest pieces of shit here.
Also, man all of you "it wasn't racially motived" folks sure disappeared like a bunch of roaches.
Sounds like they intend to keep the store manager on. "She never intended for these guys to be arrested" is not really a great excuse, considering that in a best case scenario her intention was to have the police throw those guys out of the store. It still kinda blows my mind that a manager did this -- I would expect something this dumb from a supervisor or cashier or whatever.
I wonder how many people went "yeah I can see why the manager was afraid, I'd maybe do the same" when they saw the black guys.
Why did they even call the cops anyway
Rittenhouse Square literally has homeless people and panhandlers all the time
But nope can't sit in a Starbucks and wait for somebody
Rittenhouse Square literally has homeless people and panhandlers all the time
But nope can't sit in a Starbucks and wait for somebody
Still waiting for the "black folk" that co-signed this action to show up again. And not just in hitting me with reports for language, but backup their bullshit.
Agreed. And also weird to make it about some corporate conglomerate (get your money tho, brehs), and not the individual racists who thought it was necessary to call the cops.
How much longer are you two going to do this?
I think it was the very late, very weak response and "apology" that made them such a large target. It took them an entire day to give that weakass "our bad" that no one was buying.
Struck a nerve?
Their statement was issued at 10AM the next day.....roughly ~15-17 hours later. Which is maybe about the best you can expect for a giant corporation on a Friday night. They have to talk with employees, talk with the police, talk with the victims, etc......then draft their statement and then run that statement through legal, PR, and marketing. It's a weak statement all told, though their lawyers probably influenced that since they don't want it to be read as an admission of liability.
Prolly until the folks in question return without spouting more bullshit. Even Starbucks issued a weakness apology. A simple "my bad" would maybe suffice.
The biggest piece of shit is definitely the manager that made the initial call to 911.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/34zwuw/comment/cqzprew?st=JG0B69OZ&sh=4f8b21a4
Nah. Cops get calls from racists all the time. They didn't have to arrest them and they most certainly didbt have to hold them for 9hrs. The manager caused the initial harm but cops being cops, made it infinitely worse. They are the bigger pieces of shit here.
The manager should definitely be punished. There was no reason to call the cops and there are accounts from other people at the store that claimed they had been there longer without being asked to leave.
Clearly this isn't a Starbucks policy. They issued and apology albeit a weak on imo.
But the cops are the biggest offenders here. Ok. The cops were called. They have to check it out. Once they got there and realized nothing was actually wrong. They should have left. Not cuffed two black men and then hold them for 9 hours.
I will say this though. The manager knew what she was doing. She knew the potential outcome. she isn't innocent in this.
Clearly this isn't a Starbucks policy. They issued and apology albeit a weak on imo.
But the cops are the biggest offenders here. Ok. The cops were called. They have to check it out. Once they got there and realized nothing was actually wrong. They should have left. Not cuffed two black men and then hold them for 9 hours.
I will say this though. The manager knew what she was doing. She knew the potential outcome. she isn't innocent in this.
The manager could have spoken up when she saw what was unfolding IF she wanted to
She didn't want to
She didn't want to
Doesn't sound like it, sounds like the store manager told Starbucks corporate that they didn't mean for the two black men to be arrested: https://news.starbucks.com/views/st...ter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=springfy18
Don't worry about it. Just two more black men being told where they don't belong.
Yea if she didn't mean for them to get arrested why didn't she say shit when it escalated?
Oh, better yet...
Why didn't she just NOT call police in the first place if she didn't intend for them to be arrested?
Also, the Starbucks CEO seems like he wants a photo-op moment with the national news that shows him giving an in-person apology to the two men: https://news.starbucks.com/views/st...ter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=springfy18
This whole situation pisses me off. And no, there is no defense of the actions of the manager or the cops.
Cops, showing with 10 people to arrest innocents, truly i feel protected now...
fucking asshole
fucking asshole
My bad. In this situation, racism played a huge factor.
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Guess what though, the reason I didn't say it earlier is that that my words have been twisted and meaning lost more than enough, and I don't care to interact with the people doing that. Cue the mocking posts.
Me too, especially since the CEO of Starbucks is white: https://news.starbucks.com/contact/leadership/kevin-johnson
An apology doesn't mean shit coming from a rich white man to two black men in my opinion.
I'm surprised that the manager wasn't fired over this. Isn't Starbucks known for having people sit around?
It sure is, I've sat in a Starbucks for hours chilling out in the Starbucks without buying anything and I didn't get the Baltimore Police called on me. I won't be sitting in a Starbucks anymore after this fucked up situation.
uh what?
What does it matter that the CEO is white? Did he try to get the victims arrested? And having a face to face apology is more than others would do. Granted, I know they're just doing this as damage control, but in most cases it's a phone call or a letter. This guy wants to do it in person. The only one that should be told to kick rocks is the person that called the cops. If it was the manager, he or she should be fired. This isn't Starbucks' fault. I can't even blame the cops for it, though they too should have absolutely issued an apology to the victims.
Me too, especially since the CEO of Starbucks is white: https://news.starbucks.com/contact/leadership/kevin-johnson
An apology doesn't mean shit coming from a rich white man to two black men in my opinion.
It's not his skin color. It's an issue that you're the lead guy in the company. Your employee did some racist bitch made bullshit. If you don't fire the employee you're sending a signal that you only pay give a shit about the PR problem and have no real intention of making substantive change.
Sad that some folk care more about some bigot making money than they do about the dignity and humanity of Black people. If you reading this and rolling your eyes you're exactly the kinda person I'm talking about.
When I lived in Cali, there was never a time where I wouldn't see people just sitting around a Starbucks. No one ever called police or made a fuss if you ordered or not either.
It's embarrassing reading the reactions to this story saying that "there must be more to it" or bringing up some anecdotal instance where some criminal had loitered so blame can't be put on the manager for jumping the gun and calling the cops. There is always going to be an outlier to most situations. However, just because you read a story about someone walking their dog and later going on a shooting spree doesn't mean that you should assume that every person who takes a dog for a walk is going to do the same. In this case it's solely based on appearance. It's racism, pure and simple. So many have been raised and brainwashed to be scared of a person based on the color of their skin because of how they have been depicted on television, newspapers, etc. People have died and unfortunately will continue to die for this same very reason. Luckily, in this case, the gentleman were able to get out with no physical harm brought to them. However, just look at their faces from the video and see that these scars run deep. Shameful.
As a person of color, watching the videos and seeing the looks on the two men's faces really pissed me off because it told me they've been through this bullshit before. Racism is still a reality in 2018.
if she doesn't get fired, the CEO should maker her apologize in person. That might actually mean something.
I'm a "fuck the police, and anybody that love em" nigga. But the police ain't call them damn selves. A Starbucks employee did. Pigs can get fucked for making the shit worse, but absent that phone call, none of us are in here.
Fuck em all, basically.