As long as framerate is unlocked, a given
If framerate is locked and without touching the code, no dice
Even base x1 could get near 60fps in some unlocked games. That's not the issue
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Six Back Compat titles getting XB1X Enhancements (Red Dead Redemption, Gears 2, Portal 2, more)
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As long as framerate is unlocked, a given
If framerate is locked and without touching the code, no dice
Even base x1 could get near 60fps in some unlocked games. That's not the issue
Yeah makes sense. IIRC unlocked framerates were far more common on the PS3 than 360. Boo!
Fingers crossed for Silent Hill 4 at least. I did my first playthrough on the 360 :P
Weird geometry lines on the faces and all, lol
A VRR/ unlock option could end up being really common on consoles soon as the gsync and hdmi 2.1 gain traction.
Not that I know of but I am the worst person to ask as I would always chose the graphics option due to the fact I play on a 65" OLED TV.
Forgive my ignorance, but does this mean if I have an original disc version of Red Dead Redemption for the Xbox 360, and I put that disc in an Xbox One X, I can play it with the advanced visuals? Or do I need to re-buy it through the MS storefront on Xbox One X to get access to the improved visuals. I don't actually own an Xbox One, but RDR is the only reason I still have my OG 360 hooked up, and my birthday is next month; I might make the plunge to the One X if I don't need to rebuy anything to get one of my favorite games from last-gen in HD.
Also, do you get benefits even without a 4K screen (eg, can you supersample at 1080P)?
Also, do you get benefits even without a 4K screen (eg, can you supersample at 1080P)?
You put the disc in, it downloads the package from the store and the disc acts as a key to play.
Yes you get a sharper image at 1080p. The X automatically supersamples a game when connected to a 1080p screen.
Gears of War 2 looks great. If only you could take the Instagram filter off, it'd be perfect.
If Gears of War gets the same X enhanced treatment, it'll make the Ultimate Edition seem like a massive waste of time and will probably end up looking better just through BC.
If Gears of War gets the same X enhanced treatment, it'll make the Ultimate Edition seem like a massive waste of time and will probably end up looking better just through BC.
Nier is keeping my 360 hooked up on my desk. Everyone make some noise for Nier please.
I was saying the same thing about AC Rogue and then I caved in and played it. Days later it went BC. Lemme play Nier on the One X with magic improvements!
Wouldn't be surprised if it gets announced at E3 alongside the new splinter cell.
Looks like people got pissed off a bit when I said I don't really see the appeal (personally) of buying an X or One S for these BC enhancements. Seeing them just makes me feel like I'd rather just have a full blown Remake. This is also mainly because of the slew of remakes we're seeing everywhere as it is (Shadow of the Colossus, REmake2, FFVII Remake, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Yakuza Kiwami/2, etc etc etc), makes me want the remakes more than some resolution/minor texture upgrades. That's just me.
And thank god we all know its a matter of taste. There are people who dont care about any of this Sony games. And no need to derail this topic with playstation fluff.
Like someone said it would b cool if MS would allow the 4k toggle for everyone with maybe some warning that games could run worse or that you could run into problems etc. Or they let insiders test some games for 4k.
RAGE and GTA4 in 4k would be glorious.
Do we know if these are new copies? Are they even still making them?
There have been TWO new physical releases of RDR! This one came first...
And this is the more recent one.
Many of those games you list are examples of games that were held back by Playstation hardware, though. Their fundamental design both visually and mechanically was shaped in a way that made them extremely "of their time". They needed dramatic overhauls to be up to snuff. For instance, these are both 2005 games.
Conker doesn't really NEED remastering. (Although 16:9 support would obviously be good.) I'd argue the same's true of many high profile Xbox titles. They look great. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and Double Agent, for instance. They're good looking games. The PC version might have some enhancements over the Xbox version, and the PC versions arguably need to be re-released with fixes for modern hardware/OSes, but the Xbox versions of those games could be bought to BC at 4K and they'd look fantastic. They'd also play fantastically because their controls are timeless. One of the issues with PS1 and PS2 games is archaic controls. Stuff like completely lacking camera control, for instance. But high profile Xbox games pretty much universally had contemporary controls. So you can pick them up and play them.
The benefit of BC is allowing these games to firstly be played by a new audience and for old audiences to play them on a new platform. But the other benefit is that these games will truly shine. A lot of older consoles had pretty poor image quality. Conker looking amazing in 2005. It's gonna look even more amazing in 2018. And the game design doesn't need to be changed or remade for audiences to appreciate it.
This is even more true for Xbox 360 games. PC gamers have long enjoyed image quality that far exceeds the console versions. They were good looking games in spite of themselves. Xbox players were shocking to discover how good Mirror's Edge looked, but PC gamers had been playing an incredibly good looking version of Mirror's Edge since 2008. It just took until recently for console audiences to have access to stable framerates and high resolution for these games.
There have been TWO new physical releases of RDR! This one came first...
And this is the more recent one.
Amazing
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 1080p Supersampled.
Looks like a painting... jeepers
I guess where I'm coming from is that in my opinion, I wouldn't buy an Xbox One X to play these BC games again for a resolution bump. I'd need an overhaul that makes them literally look and feel like a current gen game to do so. I'm not saying the BC enhancements aren't noticeable. Of course they are. But I feel like they're not really worth it to shell out cash to play old games that look a little better. If you already have an X or One S that you bought, then this is for sure I nice little add on. But from someone who doesn't have an Xbox as of yet and is fine with their OG PS4, it doesn't do enough for me to buy one. I should have probably explained that better before lol
If you don't regularly go back to older games then there is little point in buying an X for BC improvements obviously
I honestly have to ask if you have so little interest into BC games what have led you to constantly post that opinion in this thread?
Btw there are people thinking the opposite ...
I look more at the intangibles of this focus on backwards compatibility. I might not have any interest in playing a backwards compatible version of Red Dead that is X enhanced, however, I am FAR more likely to invest in the Xbox ecosystem and buy games digitally because I know Microsoft values retaining play-ability across generations. So games I buy currently are more likely to function in the future (and maybe run even better), since they have a proven track record. That's why I personally love all these announcements and continued investment in this program.
So, I just remembered that Sonic Generations has Sonic 1 Genesis unlockable in the game. How does that hold up in 4K?
You have to have some interest because you are here posting. Again.
Then why are you here, to let us know you don't care? Mission accomplished, moving on..... lol
Someone should take a look at these xbox and xbox 360 4k games to see how they compare to the pc versions at this point. I remember the difficulties in getting older games to play at 1080p on pc much less 4k . Digital foundry this could be fun :)
There are some who don't care, and there are some who do. I wasn't derailing anything, I didn't even bring up Sony in the first place, I was replying to someone who did who was expressing regret about their purchase. Calm down, I have & love every platform. I've probably put these new BC options to use more than you.
GoW needs touching up either via a UE or BC patch. It's the only one with no 4K!
...and Judgement I guess...