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Skyward Sword coming to Switch?
- Thread starter YolkFolk
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You'll see link flying in the trailers, fighting giant bosses and so on. Then people will buy the game and see that the flying area is no better than a level select zone in a 3D Mario game.
SS HD before WW or TP is a bad idea if they want new Zelda fans to buy all the ports, as after SS they won't be so sure about buying an old Zelda game.
Man I'm sorry as much as I loved this game on Wii, there's just no going back to that formula after BotW for me. It would just feel archaic.
Yep that actually hurt the game rather than the motion control. Too much bloat and backtracking in especially on the latter half
There is no way Nintendo would be make collection with all those games, best we can hope is:
-WW/TP HD Collection ($60)
-OoT/MM 3D HD Collection ($60)
-Zelda SS HD ($50-60)
The producer of the IP is not going to make a "trolly comment" out of nowhere".
New Super Mario Bros. U is hated? I think a lot of people are tired of the NSMB formula, but the consensus seems to be that it's by far the best in the NSMB series and on many levels one of the best 2D Mario games ever.
Just watched a GDQ speedrun of this game and it was 5 hours long with endless cutscenes and padding.
wtf lol
Now BOTW fans don't want Skyward Sword fans to even be allowed to play a remake? Relax, people aren't dumb and most of them will enjoy going through a great game. :)
First Fighters Pass character, Fire Emblem, Bayonetta 3, Star Fox...lots of possibilities.
It's definitely a game people love or hate. The later are way more vocal about it
The problem is everything that's not the sand area (outside the ancient cistern). The lava area is fucking awful, the way you have to hunt down things again and again with no end in sight is awful. Remember when you unlocked the timegate and...had to collect more shit? And oh god the Banjo Kaooie music notes.
The bossfights were awful outside of Koloktos, especially the repeated Girahim and Imprisoned fights. And that Scorpion... so lame.
The combat was lame as hell because throughout the whole game the only thing that changed was how many ways enemies get to block your attacks. No item use in fights, nothing.
Let's not lose too many words on the sky. Plain awful.
Phi's constant bullshit talking of solving puzzles for you and telling you about your battery life (the fuck?)
The only stellar things about this game are the timeshift stones, the ancient cistern and the silent realms (and some more dungeons had some cool design ideas I guess). The rest was mediocre to awful padding.
I'll never get how people can prefer this to other 3D Zeldas. The absolute low point of the series. Wind Waker was unfinished and too easy and still managed to do way more things better than this slog.
The bossfights were awful outside of Koloktos, especially the repeated Girahim and Imprisoned fights. And that Scorpion... so lame.
The combat was lame as hell because throughout the whole game the only thing that changed was how many ways enemies get to block your attacks. No item use in fights, nothing.
Let's not lose too many words on the sky. Plain awful.
Phi's constant bullshit talking of solving puzzles for you and telling you about your battery life (the fuck?)
The only stellar things about this game are the timeshift stones, the ancient cistern and the silent realms (and some more dungeons had some cool design ideas I guess). The rest was mediocre to awful padding.
I'll never get how people can prefer this to other 3D Zeldas. The absolute low point of the series. Wind Waker was unfinished and too easy and still managed to do way more things better than this slog.
For me, any comment about pacing, linearity, handholding, too much text, etc is worse with its predecessor Twilight Princess, and SS was actually better about these things.
If SS suffers these criticisms more, it's only because more people got sick of these problems down the line.
If SS suffers these criticisms more, it's only because more people got sick of these problems down the line.
Well, there is a minority of people who are angry with BOTW because they want more focus on story and traditional dungeons, Nintendo gives them what they want
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It is arguably one of the three best 2D Marios
The valid criticisms are with the OST, the rest is great
There won't be a collection because Nintendo would never bundle HD collection remasters of games. This is the same company that thought that bare bones Twilight Princess HD was worth the same amount in 2016 as the original version was in 2006.
Yeah thats gonna be a no from me dawg. Port over something decent like Majoras Mask. Skyward sword is trash.
Agreed completely. TP is a worse game in just about every respect to me.
Yeah okay I'm down for that. If people think it won't get refined as did Ww and TP you are kiddin yourselves. I also think SS would he an in house remaster akin to WW thanks to the motion controls in comparison to TP which was a 3rd Party remaster. If I had to guess the small changes would be:
-Seamless diving to the overworld. No cutscene and texture under the clouds, you jump straight into the overworld and can fly back in an instant at the cloud breaches.
-The 2nd Act has you learning the 3 Songs of the Goddesses right off the bat, allowing you to forge the Master Sword however you want.
-The 3rd Act has the overworld connect itself, allowing you to gain the Song of the Hero Without you returning to Skyloft each and every time.
-Maybe cut one of the Imprisoned Fights.
-Seamless diving to the overworld. No cutscene and texture under the clouds, you jump straight into the overworld and can fly back in an instant at the cloud breaches.
-The 2nd Act has you learning the 3 Songs of the Goddesses right off the bat, allowing you to forge the Master Sword however you want.
-The 3rd Act has the overworld connect itself, allowing you to gain the Song of the Hero Without you returning to Skyloft each and every time.
-Maybe cut one of the Imprisoned Fights.
Oh, jesus. Do you not play retro games at all? Skyward Sword isn't even old let alone retro. So I can't imagine what you think of actual retro games. Sounds like sad times to me.
It's not that I don't want them to play it, the problem is about them wanting to buy other old Zelda ports after it. If they see there's nothing of BOTW in SS, which has completely different design philosophy and gameplay, they'll have no motivation to buy WW, TP or even the 64 games when they are ported.
The best path for new fans would be:
Botw
V
WW (open world elements, introduction to OOT dungeon design)
V
TP (focus on OOT dungeon design, retains epic feel)
V
OOT (old school TP, the origin of the 3D Series)
V
MM (a more linear puzle/less open take on OOT)
V
SS (even more linear puzle than MM, with almost no feeling of adventure).
Puzzles? Sure. (Except when Phi spoils them for you because the devs thought you had the mental capacity of a toddler) Timeshift stones were genius though and I was a bit bummed out when they didn't return for BotW.
Combat? Fuck no. Slow paced, monotous garbage that never improved throughout the entire game or tried to put some twists to it. When the most outstanding exception in combat is you having to throw a bomb and then thrust your sword instead of striking you know they fucked up. Oh and that enemy you had to strike in a specific way or the heads will grow back. Which you have to fight like 2 times.
I'm not even complaining about the motion controls themselves, just how utterly boring the combat mechanics are.
"Oh no...the skeleton has only ONE opening now. Whatever will I do?"
Wind Waker HD was done by Nintendo. Twilight Princess HD was done by Tantalus. I can see Skyward Sword HD done by Nintendo.
It's got an amazing soundtrack and visual design, but I have to say it is the antithesis of BOTW and my least favourite 3D zelda.
They know we would rather have HD versions of the OOT and MM remakes but to troll they give us SS.
That would be great, it's one of my favorite Zelda games but I just tried playing it again a couple of weeks ago and seeing it blown up on my new 4K tv (I had only played it on a tiny 720p tv before) was extremely rough. But it does have a gorgeous artstyle and it could use some QoL improvements, like removing some of the tutorials or the constant explanations for any new object you find in a session. I wonder how they'll handle the motion controls though. Hopefully better than the touch screen stuff in The World Ends With You.
Yeah that was an odd comment. It's like complaining about playing any old game.
This thread is reaching unsuspected places
I prefer SS HD, I do not know who are '' we ''
I know people complain about padding and filler, but there's not a single gameplay portion I'd like cut. The return to the first dungeon, stealth mission, escort mission, minecarts, all of those may seem lame from a story prespective but are super fun to play. Tadtones are the worst part, and even those are enjoyable. So I have no idea how they'd improve the pacing like they did for Wind Waker.