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Slay the Spire - PS4, Switch and Xbox One |OT| Heart of the Cards

Monolithsoft

Member
Nov 1, 2017
3,242
Slowly working my way up through ascension levels, I've made it to A5 with the 3 characters available on Switch. This game is fantastic. Such a wonderful blend of card-based RPGs and rogue-likes. Honestly, I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more attention.

I love how each character plays so differently while still retaining the same fundamental core mechanics. I like dishing out incredible damage as Ironclad, stalling enemies as I slowly build poison tanking hits as Silent, and generating a barrage of orbs with various effects as Defect. This might be my favourite game of the year.

Is there anything else like this out there?
Don't know of any other game with such a good balance. It's really cool we're getting free updates in the future.

The only other card game I have on Switch is Steamworld Quest. Definitely not the same, still a nice game.

Also yes, game of the year for me too, with Saga Scarlet Grace. But I played it on vita and japanese switch release before already, so it's not really "new".
 

ZeroX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,726
Speed Force
Completely stuck on A19 Silent, always getting mowed down by a little too much. Longest I’ve been on one level in like 100 hours.
 

WolfeTone

Member
Oct 25, 2017
346
Don't know of any other game with such a good balance. It's really cool we're getting free updates in the future.

The only other card game I have on Switch is Steamworld Quest. Definitely not the same, still a nice game.

Also yes, game of the year for me too, with Saga Scarlet Grace. But I played it on vita and japanese switch release before already, so it's not really "new".
I love the Steamworld games, but Quest never really grabbed me like the others unfortunately. I might give it another chance.
 

Monolithsoft

Member
Nov 1, 2017
3,242
I love the Steamworld games, but Quest never really grabbed me like the others unfortunately. I might give it another chance.
I kind of agree that it might be the weakest. But it had a fairly original and interesting card system.
It weirdly feels not card enough and almost too "classic rpg" in a way.
I want a Heist 2 personaly : P. Or I'd love a full tactical one.
 

ZeroX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,726
Speed Force
Completely stuck on A19 Silent, always getting mowed down by a little too much. Longest I’ve been on one level in like 100 hours.
Finally did it in the most bland way possible. 3x After Image, 3x Footwork+ and Noxious Fumes. It took forever, but I didn’t get The Awakened One so I just stalled everyone out easily. Didn’t even have Catalyst.
 

ZeroX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,726
Speed Force
I'm at A20 with everyone finally, A19 Defect was much easier, managed to beat The Awakened One with a power build.

I expect that beating A20 will take me a long long time though.
 
Apr 14, 2018
3,630
My perfect immortal Defect run was ruined by picking up the velvet choker
patch it out the game

Edit:
2 hours later, got the same deck and beat the game for the first time taking virtually no damage the first 2 acts, and maybe a single hit each boss
 
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ZeroX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,726
Speed Force
Velvet Choker is good, one of my favorite energy relics. Just don't play stuff like Double Tap, Burst, etc or pick 0 cost cards.
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,349
Great news, The Watcher is going to be released on the main branch of the Steam version on January 14!

 

Exentryk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,525
Great news, The Watcher is going to be released on the main branch of the Steam version on January 14!

Will GOG also get this the same day?
 

cakely

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,538
Chicago
Great news, The Watcher is going to be released on the main branch of the Steam version on January 14!

Aw hell yeah.

Not like I need another reason to keep playing, but hell yeah.
 

TheZjman

Member
Nov 22, 2018
624
Man, this game is great. Started playing it on Game Pass last week and played soooo much of it. I've beaten it with the IronClad and Silent and now doing Defect, who i think is the coolest character. I love the orbs and design. I assume Ascension is 'just' a harder mode? I haven't looked at it yet.
 

cakely

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,538
Chicago
Man, this game is great. Started playing it on Game Pass last week and played soooo much of it. I've beaten it with the IronClad and Silent and now doing Defect, who i think is the coolest character. I love the orbs and design. I assume Ascension is 'just' a harder mode? I haven't looked at it yet.
Ascension is twenty levels of cumulative modifiers that make the game quite difficult.

If you're looking for an extra challenge once you beat Act III with all three characters you can start doing Act IV runs.
 

Exentryk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,525
Love this game! Have completed act 4 runs with all three characters. Looking forward to the 4th character.

I don't have the patience to do all 20 ascension runs. Would prefer to do A20 only.
 

Dreavus

The Fallen
Jan 12, 2018
468
Good lord, I fired this up on a whim after a long time away on PC and got wrapped up in 3-4 run attempts. Dying really makes me want to try again with another deck. Jeez I gotta be careful with this game, lol.

Fast mode is really nice, I have to say. It was my first time messing around with it and I don't think I'll ever turn that setting off.
 

Noaloha

Member
Oct 27, 2017
134
Ascension climbing is worthwhile I think if only because the 20 micro-adjustments to difficulty allow each player to find their own personal biting point or sweet spot for ideal level of challenge. I'm I'm not good enough at Spire slaying to realistically expect running A20, but I'd have dropped the game a long time ago if A0 were the only option.
 

Noaloha

Member
Oct 27, 2017
134
Love this game! Have completed act 4 runs with all three characters. Looking forward to the 4th character.

I don't have the patience to do all 20 ascension runs. Would prefer to do A20 only.
A20's *real* rough, which isn't a problem in and of itself, rather just a statement about expected win% returns and you may be a player who enjoys that level of difficulty. If you're on PC, I'm pretty sure you can fiddle with tables on the backend to force A20 into your profile (certainly possible on the beta branch), but just be careful jumping into A20 after only dabbling in A0-5. The main worry I have with that is simply, assuming a general ability level, you'll get super familiar with Act 1, a little familiar with Act 2 and not very familiar with Act 3.
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,349
What does amplify do? The he description isn't helpful and the internet is even worse.
When you play Amplify, if you play a Power card during that same turn, it plays it twice. Upgraded, it plays the next two Power cards twice. I usually never take this card in high Ascension, as it's very situational and draw dependent. I can see myself taking it late in my run, once I have built up my deck and have cards like Hologram+. But I'd never take it in Act 1. Plus, most Power cards cost 2 or more energy, and I'd rather play an attack or block instead.
 

Jinfash

Member
Oct 27, 2017
705
When you play Amplify, if you play a Power card during that same turn, it plays it twice. Upgraded, it plays the next two Power cards twice. I usually never take this card in high Ascension, as it's very situational and draw dependent. I can see myself taking it late in my run, once I have built up my deck and have cards like Hologram+. But I'd never take it in Act 1. Plus, most Power cards cost 2 or more energy, and I'd rather play an attack or block instead.
So if the power is, say, +2 strength amplify will double that as long as I play it while the power card is in hand?
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,349
So if the power is, say, +2 strength amplify will double that as long as I play it while the power card is in hand?
Yeah, it all has to be within the same turn. Following your example, say you have Defragment, which is a Power that grants you 1 Focus.

1. Start of the turn, you have 3 energy
2. Play Amplify for 1 energy
3. Play Defragment for 1 energy
4. It gets played twice, so now you get 2 Focus
5. You still have 1 energy remaining to play another card.

Or alternatively, if you have Amplify and Hologram+ in hand but had discarded Defragment the previous turn

3. Play Hologram+ for 1 energy to draw out Defragment from your discard pile.
4. Play Defragment with your remaining 1 energy
5. It gets played twice, you get 2 Focus
6. Now you have 0 energy, so you can end your turn.

If you play Amplify, then end the turn without playing a Power, nothing happens except you just wasted 1 energy to play it. Its effect doesn't carry over to the next turn.
 
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Exentryk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,525
A20's *real* rough, which isn't a problem in and of itself, rather just a statement about expected win% returns and you may be a player who enjoys that level of difficulty. If you're on PC, I'm pretty sure you can fiddle with tables on the backend to force A20 into your profile (certainly possible on the beta branch), but just be careful jumping into A20 after only dabbling in A0-5. The main worry I have with that is simply, assuming a general ability level, you'll get super familiar with Act 1, a little familiar with Act 2 and not very familiar with Act 3.
Since the game has randomness, the difficulty for me comes more from what cards/relics I get during a run. So I'd rather just try my luck in the max difficulty. I'll see about forcing A20, thanks.

I picked the game up at a good time as the 4th character is about to release. Hope GOG gets it at the same time as well.
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,349
Found this on the subreddit, confirms that the GOG version gets achievements. I'm guessing it gets The Watcher, too.


 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,349
They're adding two achievements? I assume it's beat the game and complete the ending with The Watcher.
I'm pretty sure it's getting the Watcher ending, and maybe a Watcher specific achievement, like Scry a certain number of cards or switch stances X times in a turn, since there are character specific ones. Isn't there already one for beating the game?
 

ZeroX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,726
Speed Force
I'm pretty sure it's getting the Watcher ending, and maybe a Watcher specific achievement, like Scry a certain number of cards or switch stances X times in a turn, since there are character specific ones. Isn't there already one for beating the game?
There’s beat the game (act 3) and get the ending (act 4) with each individual hero. The other achievements aren't technically character specific, although stuff like deal Poison, channel orbs etc, obviously aren't going to come from other heroes outside of Daily Runs or Prismatic Shard shenanigans.
 

Mugen

Member
Oct 28, 2017
665
Stockholm, Sweden
Beat the game with the Defect. So once with each of the three main characters done. Still have some unlocks for the Silent and the Defect. This game is such a priviledge to play. Happy I waited for 1.0 before diving in. Was my obvious no. 1 pick for Era and PCEra GotY.
 

Molecule

Member
Nov 2, 2017
826
Started playing this on Gamepass and thought there was something there so I got it for Switch. I think this is easily one of my top games of all time. I have been playing this game exclusively. After I spent a couple hundred bucks on the black Friday and holiday eShop sales, this is all I'm playing.

So far, the Ironclad is my favorite, closely followed by the Defect. I have beat the game with those two. I'm trying to beat it with the Silent but haven't been able to do it. The game is so fun and addicting. I find myself saying one more run a lot.

Any good video guides that aren't super long?

Also, is there an unlimited climb mode? Or is the ascension stuff all there is?
 

cakely

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,538
Chicago
What does amplify do? The he description isn't helpful and the internet is even worse.
After playing Amplify the next power card (or 2 power cards, for the upgraded version of Amplify) you play that turn will be copied and played.

So basically, the effect listed on the power card will occur twice. If it says "Gain 2 Dexterity", then you'll end up gaining 4 dexterity for the rest of the combat. That's it.

Note that this counts as a second played power card for that turn so it will trigger effects like the Time Eater Time Warp effect, Choke and A Thousand Cuts.
 

Exentryk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,525
Waiting on the Watcher, but can't see it yet on GOG.

In the meantime, I've completed A20 with Ironclad using a Barricade setup.
 

Clay

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,036
The new character seems really fun. I hadn't played her before, I've played for something like 50 hours on console and finally bought the game on Steam so I can play on my laptop while my wife watched TV. I only played one quick run but managing stances seems really fun, and Mark is a cool twist on poison (I only saw one Mark card, not sure if you can build a deck around it like you can poison). See seems sort of opposite to the Defect in a way, many of my successful Defect runs involve gaining some focus and then channeling orbs like mad to take advantage of the evoke bonuses. It can feel a little random at times, especially if I'm using Chaos. It's interesting to feel completely in control with the Scry cards.

I'm really curious to find out what Divinity does, I got a rare card that a did amount of damage plus X, where X is the number of Divinity you've gained this combat. Apparently when you get 10 you enter a third stance, I didn't get any cards that actually give you divinity so I didn't get to check that out.
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,349

Enjoy The Watcher! She's my second favorite character, after Defect. And after playing maybe 50 hours of her in the beta, she might even take Defect's spot in my heart. She definitely needs more time to learn, since her playstyle is very unique. With her Wrath and Divinity stances, she can be very attack oriented, so you can think of her as like the Ironclad in that regard. I'll try to post some more thoughts on her later.

In regards to the above post asking about Divinity:

Upon entering this stance, gain 3 Energy. While in this stance, deal triple damage. Leave this stance at the end of your turn. Divinity can be entered by gaining 10 Mantra.

Divinity is basically a way for you to do super burst damage and end the combat that turn. It takes a while to set up, so make sure you have the defense and ability to Scry the cards you need. There's a power card that grants you 2(3) Mantra every turn, and other cards can grant you Mantra upon being played as well.
 
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ZeroX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,726
Speed Force
Ahhhhhhhhhh I can't wait for it to come to console and mobile

I've been playing Pirates Outlaws on mobile. It's... certainly a different take on StS. The monetization is pretty intense and it works on a reverse ascension. So you get permanent upgrades that make your runs easier (increased max health, cheaper store prices). Energy doesn't refill each turn, you need to use cards for that. Armor doesn't disappear each turn. Only one status effect at a time, positive or negative. It's definitely not as well balanced but it's something to pass the time with.
 

Kylac

Member
Oct 31, 2017
1,712
MA
yeah started replaying on PC now that Watcher has officially released. I really wish they would let you skip right to ascension 20. I already have the other 3 at Ascension 20. not a lot of fun at level 7 ascension. :/
 
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TeamLeftMatch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,658
Guess who finally remembered to update the OP. I've done some slight changes here and there. On topic I haven't put too much time with the watcher since I want to finish off every character's 4th act before that but I love the stance changes.