- Oct 25, 2017
Now THIS is a thread I can get behind!
Really? Even at a solid frame rate? :O
Uhh sure just grab a 4th gen or newer Dell Optiplex Mini with an i5 or better in it. Lenovo Thinkcentre Tiny also is an option again 4th gen i5 or newer. Here's an example, here's another one. HP also makes a version like it but I've heard bad things about thermals in those. Don't expect to do more than 2x res on Gamecube with those particular models though.
I'm with ya there, but I really wanted to push the envelope of these tiny machines, but I also get scared something will fry. Guess I'll look for a SFX Powersupply mini itx case. It's not like it adds that much more weight/size.I've seen cases like that where you have to provide your own Pico Power Supply/converter for a laptop power supply and it's always scared me off. 90% of that is the price (Pico Power supply and a relevant charger adds up) but also I'm worried about voltages or something not matching up (which seems unlikely) and frying components or not providing enough power.
The laptop component schedule seems disconnected from the desktop space when it comes to AMD. The 4000 series laptop stuff looks awesome but I don't think it's proof they're close to a refresh in the desktop space.I'm with ya there, but I really wanted to push the envelope of these tiny machines, but I also get scared something will fry. Guess I'll look for a SFX Powersupply mini itx case. It's not like it adds that much more weight/size.
Waiting for these Ryzen 4000 APU's, I know the laptop version comes out Q1 2020. so I imagine mid 2020 we'll get news
I had similar thinking, and couldn't settle for ages. In the end (after over a year of planning a build on-and-off) I went for a Silverstone GD09. I'm not sure if this qualifies as SFF, but I wanted the HTPC profile but with the ability to use an ATX PSU and a m-ATX motherboard.While it's probably not small enough to really fit the discussion here... what I've been wanting is an HTPC-style Micro-ATX case, but there's hardly anything out there. Just two old Silverstone models and that's it. There are a bunch of Micro-ATX towers of varying sizes, and a handful of shoebox and cube cases, but haven't really settled on any of these.
The Aerocool Playa Slim is kind of interesting, as a very small Micro-ATX case (~11L), though only fits low-profile GPUs. There are finally a handful of low-profile GTX 1650's out there (better than a 1050 ti, worse than an RX 570).
So I'll probably end up going with a small tower (or sticking with an old ATX case I've already got), which is easier for building, but not exactly media center friendly.
That's a grownup PC tower lying down - definitely nowhere near "small form factor".
That's a grownup PC tower lying down - definitely nowhere near "small form factor".
I'm running a similar setup with a HTPC next to my AVR and center speaker, only in a Lian Li PC69B case:
That said, I'd love to eventually build a real SFF PC. Since this large case is already integrated into the living room however, there's no real need to. But i still find the notion of a full blown gaming PC in something as compact as a Dan case very appealing.
How was your experience with the RVZ02's thermals/noise? I've had the case lying around for a while but didn't yet get a hold of all the SFF components needed to get it up and running.
Looks great. The closest an SFF case has got to Valve's Steam Machine prototype in appearance.
That's a chonker but technically an HTPC lol. Honestly looks like you could put a VHS tape in it what about that sytle of industrial design makes everything look like a 90's VCR?I had similar thinking, and couldn't settle for ages. In the end (after over a year of planning a build on-and-off) I went for a Silverstone GD09. I'm not sure if this qualifies as SFF, but I wanted the HTPC profile but with the ability to use an ATX PSU and a m-ATX motherboard.
It's currently hosting a Ryzen 2700x with a Noctua NH-U9S which has an upright profile that doesn't cover RAM slots and is short enough to fit inside the case. It's like a miniature version of their popular coolers used in full size builds, and it's wonderful. My CPU temps are lot lower than the Wraith Prism (which itself wasn't bad) and it's a lot quieter when the fans ramp up. I'm seriously impressed.
For the GPU I'm currently using a Zotac 1070 Mini. I previously had a larger MSI 1070 card which didn't fit in the case (it was too tall) so I switched to one that just about fits. I'm looking at a GPU upgrade in the near future, and I have to be careful I choose the right one.
Here's what it looks like inside...
Here's how it looks in the TV cabinet. PS4 Pro is on the right, for size comparisons. It is still quite large, but fits nicely...
i´ve been thinking of getting something as small as a Dan case that can still support a fullsized videocard. But they seem really hard to find, especially in Canada.
This is the one I have my eye on: http://www.louqe.com/
I like the look I'm looking forward to impressions.So with my main rig pretty much getting no heavy use I decided to jump the gun and buy a preconfigured SFF from China, to use it with lower end games, Retroarch and Kodi. There's huge market there in that country for those.
It has a hexacore i7 9750h (which probably isn't very far away in performance from my 6700k 4,6Ghz lol) and a dedicated 1650 card and I really like the form factor. Take a look:
It comes with external power brick so I'm not too worried about thermals. Will post impressions.
Because some people want them to be small.
Hey, my father has that case and he LOVES it. Small and very easy to open and change components.I needed a smaller pc to carry over to friends house, and it only needs to play league of legends or cs:go, so it didn't need to be powerfull. What I did is I bought a refurbished HP 8300 elite SFF. Its not super small, but smaller than the average atx tower. It has a 3rd gen i5 and 8gb of ram, and it only cost me $120. I then put a gt1030 and a 256gb ssd in it and it plays non demanding games really well.
What I got for $120
- InWin Chopin (150W PSU included)So my parents finally are ready to get a new PC and they don't want to spend the money on a Mac mini or iMac (and won't let me buy it for them) so I'm putting together a computer for them. This is a 70% web browsing, 20% e-mail, and 10% word processing computer, so I don't need a GPU, but this is the closest place for me to talk about it.
Gonna go with a Ryzen 3 3200G, probably 16GB of RAM (Overkill for their needs, but I'm looking for longevity) and probably a 256GB SSD of some variation.
Can anyone recommend a smallish case that's not stupid expensive? I don't need a side panel or cooling and whatnot but their current Acer computer is one of those tiny desktops and I'd love to keep it similar to that form factor if possible.
That Asrock kit is looking like the way to go, I’ll price out the parts I need for it later today and post it for review. Might even spring for that snazzy VESA mount kit and stick it to the back of their monitor.- InWin Chopin (150W PSU included)
- InWin A1 (600W PSU included)
- Jonsbo cases if you want something that is silver like a Mac that is not $200. But you probably have to buy out of Ali Express to get the older itx ones like a Jonsbo C2 or Jonsbo UMX1.
But you could also go for an barebones like the Asrock Deskmini A300
What country are you from? I filtered a list of cases on Pcpartpicker that should be similar, and one the top right corner you can change the country and the list should remove things that are not available.The more I read about the A300 the more I'm dissuaded from going with it. I'd like the additional USB ports add-on as well as the audio out add-on they offer but those don't seem to be available anywhere. I'm concerned there may be a scenario where I end up quickly filling the USB ports on the back and without a proper audio out there isn't really a way to use speakers without going with some sort of HDMI audio stripping accessory.
Reverting back to my original plan. Bleh.
Edit: I love the look of the "BM643" from Inwin but it doesn't seem to be actually available for purchase anywhere.
Sff definitely has a price premium in the market. Mobos and cases in particular can be much more expensive than the larger atx variants, and with less features to boot.
Check out the top two pinned posts:
Smallest there is (in volume), it is probably a streacom fansless thing.
Man I remember lusting over them so bad. Such a shame SteamOS didn't catch on.
Not crazy about the "cube" form factors, but the Antec and Rosewill cases you recommended are definitely good starting places.Smallest there is (in volume), it is probably a streacom fansless thing.
But without getting into premium cases, knowing you don't need room for a GPU, I think as affordable options go, it may be between Antec VSK2000U, Rosewill R379-M or that Cooltek Coolcube Maxi posted at the top of the page, which is also know as the Jonsbo V4.
Edit: Actually the Jonsbo C2 is smaller than the V4 and also mATX. But like I said, Jonsbo cases you may have to buy thru Ali Express.