Yeah Dixie could've been unique, but I would've rather just had her as an echo with a DK-esque ponytail recovery Chrom-style than no Dixie at all.
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Smash Bros Ultimate datamine: Mementos seems to be Joker's stage (further confirms Persona 5R/Erdrick for Switch leak?)
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Tingle hate has always been thinly veiled homophobia so it's difficult for me to not empathise with the fans, even if I don't find him that interesting.
Dixie has gameplay difference with Diddy built into her design. Far more likelier than an echo Dixie is Dixie pulling Kiddy Kong out of her hair and utilizing the hated baby to attack.
Keep in mind that the Dixie Kong spirit's final form in Super Smash Brothers Ultimate is Dixie Kong & Kiddy Kong. Very interesting.
Agreed. But It was Tingle's bullshit in the Wind Waker that made me hate him.
That was pretty much the first time Kiddy Kong was even acknowledged in Smash Bros., wasn't it?
Wasn't even a sticker back in Brawl
Same, at this point I really just want her in before Funky eclipses her in popularity as the trends are seeming to go. And also the lack of Tropical Freeze music is just a glaring oversight by the music team imo. We get DK content but we gotta beg for it and play catchup, it sucks
This is the first Smash that's referenced anything about DKC3 at all iirc.
Dark Samus and the Fire Emblem Echoes already disregard this kind of thing though!
Ultimately the issue is height and that sounds like a minor problem.
For what it's worth, they could consider "Jane" a different character from Joker, and thus not alternate.
WFT, Inkling, Robin, & Corrin, are all technically the same character. But Olimar and Alph are different characters, so it's 4 straight Olimar alts, then 4 Alphs.
If "Jane" is a female P5 Protag, and gets a different codename, she could be considered a separate character, like how P3 Hamuko is considered different from P3 Minato.
In that case, it'd make sense for her to follow Olimar/Alph's conventions, instead of the other characters.
Not sure if that's actually the case, but it could be worth considering.
You know what, that actually is a very good point. All the other genderswaps share a name, but if it exists, it's likely femJoker will have a unique name like the P3 protag. If that's the case, it's entirely possible they do the Pikmin thing and the file is for a genderswap Joker after all. The plot thickens...
she'd have a different "real" name, but I'd be surprised if she wasn't still called Joker too
Yeah, I think a female protagonist for P5 would still be called "Joker" in their persona/disguised form.
I don't hate him because of his flamboyance, I hate him for his generally cringy attitude.
All the Dixie and Tingle discussion is refreshing to see. I'm not going to be mad if the fighter pass ends up being mostly or all third party characters, but I would love to have more Nintendo made characters in, there's still quite a few that I feel would be great additions.
Makoto Yuki is the canon name for P3MC, not Minato Arisato. It's even a neutral name, so FeMC can retain the Makoto name.
With that said, if Ren/Joker gets a female variant, she'd need a new real name (Rin Amamiya, perhaps), but she'd retain the Joker code name.
God I just want to stab that pervert bear demon.
Anyway - has the data alluded any further characters/stages/content beyond the Joker/Edrick?
The fact that so much of the base game would have to change is why I want it so bad.
It would make for an excellent second run-through.
And roleplaying as a girl is fun.
They want people to double dip on a 60 dollar game.
Whatever change needed for fem Joker is still way below the resources and costs of a complete new title.
I mean look what they added to a "niche" release like Catherine for the new version. P5R is whats gonna keep them going and selling for the next 1-2 years until they are ready to talk about the next P mainline game.
That is technically true, but the point still stands - Hamuko and Minato/Makoto are considered different characters, unlike Corrin/Robin/Inklings/WFT.
Also I choose to use Minato Arisato whenever possible, because it's a tremendously better name.
It's still theoretically possible for a P5 F Joker to have a different codename. I dunno if it's likely, but it's possible. There's also no real confirmation she has to have a different codename, since she can be a different character and still be called Joker, and the Jane codename could reference her model differences from M Joker.
That's actually a great point, that no one mentions.
Yeah, an F Joker would be a huge undertaking, but they added a surprisingly large amount of new content to Catherine, a game that never even really needed to be ported in the first place.
And they can do that by not wasting resources on changing a lot and I mean A LOT of the base game.
As in Persona 4, the plot in 5 was made with a Male MC in mind as stated by the series director when asking about why there were no females in 4 and 5.
Here how you should look at this what is more possible.
Atlus changing 70% if the base to accommodate a female Protagonist, Re-animating anime scenes creating a new set of character for her as in p3P
or
Minimal changes to the base game while adding an expansion to the story, new characters, probably a new anime scene, Dungeons, and extended timeline?
Do they go the P3P route or the go the Golden route? for a game that let's be real won't sell as much as the original.
I'm not saying is impossible the could do it they could put the work that is required but cmon is freaking Atlus.
P3P worked really well for it because I don't think people remember how paired down the overworld was in that version of the game.
I think that TGA was a statement to everyone that we are all in this together. Nintendo said themselves they want the Smash DLC to be crazy. I think it's a great opportunity for Nintendo to bring PS4 and Xbox fans to the Switch by letting them play as exclusives. The Switch will be a monster in the US as the 2nd console that everyone buys. Not just be a section of the gaming base.
I for one jumped out of my chair and will buy the Smash pass with no intention of ever rebuying P5 because I don't double dip. Not that I think the games is coming to Switch because it's not.
That's called marketing partnership. Also Sakurai isn't a Nintendo employee :p
Was it confirmed as an exclusive? I remember a bunch of games being confirmed for PS4 first, and then confirmed for Switch at a late date. Crash Team Racing comes to mind
I can't believe I am agreeing with a Sammy post but unfortunately I have to at this point because Atlus is even more bizarre than you lol.
I'm pretty sure Nintendo don't want Switch to be the "2nd console" after Wii U fiasco. That's a risky goal. Not everyone can afford 2 consoles and Nintendo wants to get to those people before others.
Also Joker in Smash is more likely to sell PS4s to Smash fans rather than selling Switch to PS4 owners, if P5R Switch is not real. Smash has nothing to offer to people who are not interested in Nintendo franchises. But Smash owners are likely to want to play P5 after having Joker in Smash.
Not boycotting but
I haven't bought the dlc yet and would be more inclined to if I could play the game joker is from on my switch
Don't know why some people are surprised. Super Smash Bros since Brawl has a habit of featuring characters that are more prominent on Playstation than Nintendo.
No, it has plenty to offer to people who aren't interested in Nintendo's other franchises; an amazing multiplayer game. With or without Nintendo characters, it's first and foremost great to play
Joker's codenane is Jack...
Theoretically she could be Harlquin in the new game.
We got Jack ( joker) and Jill ( new character )
Mirrors of each other or a code for echo?
Me.
I already bought the pass and will play Joker, but I refuse to enjoy it.
I'm not sure if y'all are being serious that y'all are boycotting Joker because we might not getting Persona 5 on Smash? So are you being serious?
That or like the kid story of Jack and Jill. Still basically his mirror or echo that travels the same path.