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AztecComplex

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,371
That DQ character is possibly the most boring rep Square could have ever offered.
DQ is much more than just Erdrick. It's the aesthetic, the Akira Toriyama designs, the world, it's monsters, the slimes, and even the music (like it or not). A DQ rep would bring all of that. It's a 32 year old franchise and THE RPG franchise in Japan. It deserves a spot even if imtheir MCs are bland skates but I'd argue they're not blander than Link is who's also a serial mute with no discernible personality (at least not more than Erdrick).
 

DecoReturns

Member
Oct 27, 2017
22,003
I recall the DoomGuy/Erdrick/Ryu Leak etc.
had explanations of their inclusions and release dates for the characters.

That alone told me it was fake. That was way too much details for a random leak, plus the dates seemed unrealistic. Mementos being the stage isn't going to change that since it was one of the most common predictions for joker. All I kept hearing was Casino or Mementos. Before the leak even happened as well.

Off-topic: Memento is a fantastic film. Have to mention that since cause I love the film :P
 

MondoMega

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jan 10, 2018
47,474
Australia
So just Joker/Edrick concern this new information yeah ? I haven't kept up as much as I'd like to latley.
Right now this only concerns Joker and Erdrick, but if the Joker/Erdrick 5chan rumor (that mentioned Mementos) is 100% legit, it also gives a bit of validity to the Steve/Doom Guy/Hayabusa rumor that preceeded it (due to them both mentioning Anlucia and Luminary as Erdrick alts). I'm sure the latter will still end up being false though.
 
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Hikari

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,685
Elysium
Mementos is a given would what about the song? I want Last surprise or Life will change please.
 

KtotheRoc

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
56,616
I don't know why people have objections to Mementos as a stage. I'm sure Sakurai and co. could make an interesting stage.
 

louisacommie

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,564
New Jersey
My queen Urbosa... your time is coming... I still believe it!
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Sakurai hates zelda
 

scare_crow

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,305
All this talk about "stans" and some dude saying Sephiroth vs Cloud would "meme it up." Is this what it feels like to get old?
 

Vesper

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,672
Fuck mementos but at the same time LETS GO MEMENTOS because this means Persona 5 Arena is real!!!
 

PBalfredo

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,494
You know how fake screenshots of the character select screen would always give themselves away because the fakers can't help but put in Geno, the most obvious fanboy pick. Doomguy is that for rumors by western fans. "He's the FPS rep!" they say as if Japan gives a flying fuck about the lineage of PC FPS games like we do.
 

KtotheRoc

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
56,616
You know how fake screenshots of the character select screen would always give themselves away because they fakers can't help but put in Geno, the most obvious fanboy pick. Doomguy is that for rumors by western fans. "He's the FPS rep!" they say as if Japan gives a flying fuck.

To be fair, the West doesn't really give a flying fuck about Erdrick.

(I say this as a Dragon Quest fan.)
 

GreenMamba

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,287
That's assuming that Nintendo didn't consult with NoA and NoE at all when coming up with the characters.
 

Metto

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,108
Fuck no, Edelgard better make it over some random block aberration. Sakurai, don't listen to this man.
Byleth would be really cool in Smash. You get to play as a professor who can use a Sword, Axe, Lance, and maybe more.

It's like the hate Corrin gets for being an FE character even though they're super rad as a fighter. It's like people only let their franchise icon determine their worth. If I can get over my previous hate boner for Incineroar pre-release and acknowledge that he's cool in Smash then I think others could
 

BlueStarEXSF

Member
Dec 3, 2018
4,502
Should have been the casino with the other phantom thieves sneaking around in the background. I hope there are nice cameos of persons and the morgana truck going around at least.
 

Gold Arsene

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
30,757
They might as well have put in Sephiroth for a Square rep, there is no integrity with Smash's roster anymore, the first DLC is a god damn Sony exclusive (for now) character, so might as well meme it up with Cloud vs Sephiroth duels.
Joker is no more a Sony exclusive then Snake was when he was out in Brawl.
I don't know why people have objections to Mementos as a stage. I'm sure Sakurai and co. could make an interesting stage.
I simply don't think it's that interesting a stage visually. Even if they included the deepest layers. I would prefer the Casino.
 

MondoMega

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jan 10, 2018
47,474
Australia
You know how fake screenshots of the character select screen would always give themselves away because the fakers can't help but put in Geno, the most obvious fanboy pick. Doomguy is that for rumors by western fans. "He's the FPS rep!" they say as if Japan gives a flying fuck about the lineage of PC FPS games like we do.
Sakurai cares. He mentions John Carmack as one of many influential game designers born in 1970 (the only international dev mentioned).
Internationally, you have John Carmack, the father of FPS's, as well
It's a shame that's he didn't choose the Fighters Pass roster.
 

Mekanos

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 17, 2018
44,120
If there was another ballot, expect "Zelda rep" to be a serious contender.
 

Metto

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,108
If there was another ballot, expect "Zelda rep" to be a serious contender.
To be fair according to Sakurai that's how Cloud got into Smash. A bunch of Final Fantasy characters were voted in the ballot and Sakurai decided to put one in with Cloud as the rep because he was the most requested FF character out of all of them.
 

Mekanos

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 17, 2018
44,120
To be fair according to Sakurai that's how Cloud got into Smash. A bunch of Final Fantasy characters were voted in the ballot and Sakurai decided to put one in with Cloud as the rep because he was the most requested FF character out of all of them.

Cloud wasn't added because of the ballot. Sakurai was talking about people wanting a Final Fantasy character in general.
 

MondoMega

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jan 10, 2018
47,474
Australia
Chocobo was the highest-voted third party character on the Smash 2 ballot. An FF Rep was an inevitable inclusion (though I didn't think it would be Cloud).
 

Neoxon

Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst
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Oct 25, 2017
85,287
Houston, TX
Sakurai cares. He mentions John Carmack as one of many influential game designers born in 1970 (the only international dev mentioned).

It's a shame that's he didn't choose the Fighters Pass roster.
A shame that Sakurai didn't choose? I just want to be sure since it could be interpreted as you wishing that John Carmack should have made the choices.
 

Gold Arsene

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
30,757
Meme by people who think Sakurai hates Zelda because he doesn't add random one-off side characters to the roster despite having a ton of items, stages, and Assist Trophies.
When you haven't gotten a unique character since Melee it can make you a little bitter.

Especially when Fire Emblem continues to get unique newcomers. Yes I know that's do to FE cast rotating and I actually like Corrin. But it makes the lack of Zelda newcomers a bitter pill to swallow sometime.

louisacommie is just a troll though at this point.