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Oct 29, 2017
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Is Greninja the character with the best recovery? I've seen some videos these days and doesn't matter how far from the platform he is, he'll get back to it. It's like he's not dead, until he's put into the damn orbit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,784
Doomguy just wouldn't work because of guns. You can't even make his guns seem more fantastical outside the bfg. Plus you need the chainsaw.
 

Raoh

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Oct 27, 2017
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I hear people saying "X" character is broken, but you're not taking into account this is a different smash game. For all we know this is the kind of pacing and damage they wanted to.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,532
Is Greninja the character with the best recovery? I've seen some videos these days and doesn't matter how far from the platform he is, he'll get back to it. It's like he's not dead, until he's put into the damn orbit.
Meta Knight and Pikachu plus characters with warp like Palutena and Zelda then K Rool are characters that I think have the best recoveries.
 
Nov 2, 2017
2,586
Doomguy just wouldn't work because of guns. You can't even make his guns seem more fantastical outside the bfg. Plus you need the chainsaw.
You can make it work. A chainsaw works just like a sword. Bayonetta uses nearly realistic guns. Doom already has plasma weapons. Doom Eternal has been promoting its new grappling hook a lot.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,305
United States
Doomguy just wouldn't work because of guns. You can't even make his guns seem more fantastical outside the bfg. Plus you need the chainsaw.
He still has a decent arsenal

-Rocket launcher
-Shotgun (close range blast, doesn't necessarily have to appear to be firing a bullet)
-Heavy assault rifle (micro missiles mod)
-Plasma rifle
-Plasma pistol
-Gauss Cannon
-BFG
-Chainsaw
-Crucible sword
-Various rip and tear melee attacks

Would be perfectly fine for Smash imo
 
Oct 26, 2017
968
If we get an FPS rep, I'd rather get Joanna Dark. Microsoft has said they're willing to play ball. She's closely tied to Nintendo and it would be great to have a Rare rep. Throw in some remote mines or slappers into her moveset to reference Goldeneye, too.
 
Nov 2, 2017
2,586
If we get an FPS rep, I'd rather get Joanna Dark. Microsoft has said they're willing to play ball. She's closely tied to Nintendo and it would be great to have a Rare rep. Throw in some remote mines or slappers into her moveset to reference Goldeneye, too.
If they get Microsoft on board, Banjo Kazooie has to be first. And if we're specifically going for a Microsoft FPS rep, you might as well go all the way and get Master Chief.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,287
Doomguy would be awesome and would work, but that's so far out of Nintendo's main wheelhouse... Snake is violent but he's not hyperviolent.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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3 on 3, a shared FSM, a way to change your character on the middle of the match and the character changed be healed a little. Would be a good way to create some conditions for a new competitive segment, or the only viable way to incorporate FSM is with the command input?
The mode on its own is good enough for a competitive standpoint. It's essentially King of Fighters at the 3 v 3.
 
Oct 29, 2017
1,022
Meta Knight and Pikachu plus characters with warp like Palutena and Zelda then K Rool are characters that I think have the best recoveries.
Oh, right! I had forgotten some of those. Brawl was the last one I played in depth, so I have much to discover.

Thanks for the answer, this week is going to be so long!
 
Oct 26, 2017
216
Every track from 64 seems to be back, besides the opening theme. That includes the How to Play song, Menu theme, Character Select theme, Bonus Game theme, Dual Zone, Meta Crystal and Final Destination themes.
Oh shit oh shit, YES. Any idea where it can be played in the game??
And did the Training Mode music from 64 make it in as well?
 
Oct 26, 2017
216
The Training Mode theme is in too, I missed that one. I don't know where that track would be played in game though. Possibly the menu or training stage (if you can set music for the latter)?
OOOH. I hope there's a music toggle for the training stage, because the 64 music will be 100% on. Lawdy.
 

r_n

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Oct 25, 2017
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I kinda wonder how they'll handle the fights for stuff like the Mario Karts and Whispy Woods, if almost every Spirit has a fight
I could see Whispy being something like

Dream Land against 3 red Kirbies, representing the apples, Whispy's main way of dealing damage
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,841
The Training Mode theme is in too, I missed that one. I don't know where that track would be played in game though. Possibly the menu or training stage (if you can set music for the latter)?
Oh shit oh shit, YES. Any idea where it can be played in the game??
And did the Training Mode music from 64 make it in as well?
Smash 64's themes are only on anything Smash related. So FD/Battlefield/Big BF.

Training Mode is literally just the stage select screen with an additional training stage instead of random, with the addition of the Ultimate training music available on all stages.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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Sydney, Australia
Smash 64's themes are only on anything Smash related. So FD/Battlefield/Big BF.

Training Mode is literally just the stage select screen with an additional training stage instead of random, with the addition of the Ultimate training music available on all stages.
I would assume that the Smash 64 menu and character select themes would be options for the menu, right? They wouldn't really fit on any stages.

From what i've seen, the ability to change music on the menu is unlockable in Ultimate. Do you know what unlocks it?
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,841
I would assume that the Smash 64 menu and character select themes would be options for the menu, right? They wouldn't really fit on any stages.

From what i've seen, the ability to change music on the menu is unlockable in Ultimate. Do you know what unlocks it?
Character select I know for sure is on menu. Menu, no, but I'm not sure if it's due to my hacked save or not. I don't know what the unlock requirements are.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,557
Doomguy just wouldn't work because of guns. You can't even make his guns seem more fantastical outside the bfg. Plus you need the chainsaw.
Doomguy has plenty of fantastical guns. The plasma gun is one of his most famous, but he also has the gauss canon, rocket launcher, etc. The rocket launcher could even be used as a triple jump recovery. Also, chainsaw for smash attacks (no more violent than Corrin's sword).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just do it like Chris Redfield in MvC3 where it's a comic book-style burst resembling a short-range explosion with no visible bullets.
yah i'm sure there's ways to go around that. i honestly think the number of characters who actually couldn't be in the game because of guns/violence is tiny, outside of games where there's like, no cartoonish elements at all to 'counter' the hyper-realistic violence.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Doomguy could definitely work, and would be incredibly deserving. Also rather unique - I picture him being able to run and gun like Mega Man while switching seamlessly between a variety of weapons, true to the spirit of his games.

Question is, would he be named Doomguy, Doom Marine or Doom Slayer?
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,522
Doomguy could definitely work, and would be incredibly deserving. Also rather unique - I picture him being able to run and gun like Mega Man while switching seamlessly between a variety of weapons, true to the spirit of his games.

Question is, would he be named Doomguy, Doom Marine or Doom Slayer?
They're gonna dig in all the adaptations and find something amazing and unfitting, like John.
 
Nov 2, 2017
2,586
Doomguy could definitely work, and would be incredibly deserving. Also rather unique - I picture him being able to run and gun like Mega Man while switching seamlessly between a variety of weapons, true to the spirit of his games.

Question is, would he be named Doomguy, Doom Marine or Doom Slayer?
"Doomguy" fits the Nintendo spirit better. He would seem slightly less out of place as Doomguy, the 90's over-the-top action hero, than he would as Doom Slayer, the modern violent blood and gore shooter.
 
Oct 28, 2017
197
This is hilarious:

What I love about this is the multiple meta-humour in this. First you've got Snake in one of Naked Snake's (aka Big Boss, aka Solid Snake's father) camo uniforms in MGS3, hence reference to "father". Second, the telephone/codec is how you save in both Earthbound and MGS respectively.