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Smash Ultimate is out in the wild, hide ya kids for WoL SPOILERS [Datamining has started] (READ OP)

Oct 25, 2017
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3 on 3, a shared FSM, a way to change your character on the middle of the match and the character changed be healed a little. Would be a good way to create some conditions for a new competitive segment, or the only viable way to incorporate FSM is with the command input?
No changing, keep it as it is KoF style and a shared FSM and it's perfect. Damn I didn't know this mode was in Smash. 3v3 would definitely work in a competitive setting.
 

r_n

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This is what im talking about. Talking about characters getting banned BEFORE THE GAME IS EVEN OUT.
hey we've had like a week of play time that's more then enough to tell everything about everyone and that's why tier lists are changing wildly by the day and the person making them
 
Oct 26, 2017
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It's been a while since the OST leaked, but the tool for .lopus playback & conversion (vgmstream) got updated with a better audio decoder. The improvement in audio quality ranges from subtle to significant.
All Smash Ultimate OST MP3s/FLACs/videos etc. before today are now obsolete, as they were converted using the older decoder.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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"Doomguy" fits the Nintendo spirit better. He would seem slightly less out of place as Doomguy, the 90's over-the-top action hero, than he would as Doom Slayer, the modern violent blood and gore shooter.
Would probably be named Doom Marine and have either both his modern design and classic 90s design or just his old 90s design. For instance both Pac-Man and Megaman are based on their older forms, though I guess Sonic is oddly only modern style, even though we have Sonic Generations and Forces and Mania all with classic chubby pointy shoes Sonic. Cloud has 2 designs in his alts as do Wario and Bayonetta.

I agree old Doomguy would fit better. Would love to see how he'd look in Smash Ultimate's aesthetic!
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is what im talking about. Talking about characters getting banned BEFORE THE GAME IS EVEN OUT.
You know he's joking right? As a Bayo main who received more hate than he deserved for playing a character many painted as broken he's overreacting to demonstrate how dumb much of the hate he got was

 
Feb 23, 2018
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You know he's joking right? As a Bayo main who received more hate than he deserved for playing a character many painted as broken he's overreacting to demonstrate how dumb much of the hate he got was

Isn't this that clown who made a joke of Smash 4's final evo? He deserved the hate.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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It doesn't even look like a broken move though.
You have to take several risks to land a revenge foward smash.
Didn't look into the framedata of incineroar so you might be right about landing the smash. The revenge powerup itself is relatively easy to get though and applies to every move anyway.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Anyone know if Squad Strike can be played against the computer, or if you can do CPU vs. CPU if you just want something entertaining to watch while eating dinner?
 
Nov 2, 2017
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No changing, keep it as it is KoF style and a shared FSM and it's perfect. Damn I didn't know this mode was in Smash. 3v3 would definitely work in a competitive setting.
This has been mentioned many times before, but the best part is that you don't have to choose different characters. You can pick the same character three times if you want, making it identical to normal battles. Squad Strike has the potential to replace singles entirely.
 

r_n

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You know he's joking right? As a Bayo main who received more hate than he deserved for playing a character many painted as broken he's overreacting to demonstrate how dumb much of the hate he got was

I didn't know the Bayo players' names so didn't know it was him making fun of what he got, no
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This is what im talking about. Talking about characters getting banned BEFORE THE GAME IS EVEN OUT.
Unless its fixed, if that's something easily done in matches then it might actually be considered, and for good reason? Its probably for the best that these people are finding all these cheesy exploits because it means they will be fixed sooner.

That metaknight 0 to death looks nasty. I wonder if the person tried to DI out of it?
well he does say actual matches so im assuming its not someone new to the games
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's weird, Squirtle, Charizard and Ivysaur have stock icons, CSS icons and Palutena's guidances for each individual Pokemon (that, as far as I'm aware, never play). It's also apparently easy to just mod them into the CSS. The game is already set up for them to be solo, since there are spirit battles where Trainer doesn't appear, and the individual Pokemon do (without a down special)

I wonder if at some point it was planned, or is still planned, to allow them to be played individually without the Trainer mechanic
 

r_n

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It's weird, Squirtle, Charizard and Ivysaur have stock icons, CSS icons and Palutena's guidances for each individual Pokemon (that, as far as I'm aware, never play). It's also apparently easy to just mod them into the CSS. The game is already set up for them to be solo, since there are spirit battles where Trainer doesn't appear, and the individual Pokemon do (without a down special)

I wonder if at some point it was planned, or is still planned, to allow them to be played individually without the Trainer mechanic
wait do they actually have unique guidances, do they just have placeholders for guidances, or fo they have files for guidances that just point to the Pokemon Trainer guidance like I assume the Koopalings (to each other) & Alph (to Olimar) do
 
Oct 25, 2017
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wait do they actually have unique guidances, do they just have placeholders for guidances, or fo they have files for guidances that just point to the Pokemon Trainer guidance like I assume the Koopalings (to each other) & Alph (to Olimar) do
They have subtitles for them, I don't know if they actually recorded them or not.
Is that a Squirtle?

The Tiny Turtle Pokémon.

Mmm... I have a sudden craving for tiny turtle stew.

What is wrong with you?

Squirtle is one of the first Pokémon you can get!

And this time around, Squirtle has more water

moves in its arsenal.

Getting a little wet doesn't bother me!

Don't underestimate water, Pit. With enough

force and precision, it becomes a blade that

can cut through anything.

You're right. All these fighters are here for a reason.

I can't let my guard down against anyone!

When Squirtle charges at you with its shell, guard,

and then counterattack when it's up in the air.
That's Bulbasaur! ...Or is it Venusaur?

It's Ivysaur. The Pokémon's form before it evolves

into Venusaur.

I know I'm supposed to fight it, but I gotta say,

it's pretty stinkin' cute.

Cute and deadly! Ivysaur's Vine Whip is as versatile

as it is dangerous.

It can be used like a whip as the name implies,

but it can also grab opponents.

It can even be used to grab onto ledges in a pinch!

I see. Hey, I'm really grateful for all the info,

Viridi, but where's Lady Palutena?

Who cares? Palutena doesn't know squat about

plants! This is where I shine!

Where was I? Oh, the Vine Whip has a deceptively long

reach. And don't forget about Bullet Seed as well!
Charizard's is just from Smash 4
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's weird, Squirtle, Charizard and Ivysaur have stock icons, CSS icons and Palutena's guidances for each individual Pokemon (that, as far as I'm aware, never play). It's also apparently easy to just mod them into the CSS. The game is already set up for them to be solo, since there are spirit battles where Trainer doesn't appear, and the individual Pokemon do (without a down special)

I wonder if at some point it was planned, or is still planned, to allow them to be played individually without the Trainer mechanic
theyre probably just coded as three different characters internally because of how their gimmick works, but I don’t think that’s an indicator of them intending to separate them, just a matter of how the character system works
 
Oct 25, 2017
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theyre probably just coded as three different characters internally because of how their gimmick works, but I don’t think that’s an indicator of them intending to separate them, just a matter of how the character system works
There's no reason they require a guidance to work. There is no situation where you could ever trigger them, and the game already has a fallback if the character lacks one.
 

r_n

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gotta say, I think new-Viridi's acting on the Ivysaur guidance is the best of the bunch
weird decision to have it just randomly select between the Pokemon Trainer or the actual Pokemon.





Really? Didn't want to add a special one for Alph? No? You Sure? yeah....typical.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Smash community asking for day negative 7 nerfs. Never change.
was it like that with Smash 4? I mean, I remember balance being a very big topic of discussion before Smash 4 came out but like Nintendo advertised that shit with a tournament so that's not very surprising
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This has been mentioned many times before, but the best part is that you don't have to choose different characters. You can pick the same character three times if you want, making it identical to normal battles. Squad Strike has the potential to replace singles entirely.
But that'd be just like playing regular stock battles, I'd like to see competitive 3v3 KoF style where you pick 3 different characters with no switching till one team is down. That'd be rad.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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you can't even grab using Leaf Shield anymore.
...what, exactly, is the point of this move
I wonder if at some point it was planned, or is still planned, to allow them to be played individually without the Trainer mechanic
what would even be the point? you can toggle your starter from the CSS and just not press downB, and it's not like there's stamina
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Man, all the Palutena's Guidance stuff just makes me wish there was more character interactions between everyone in the game itself. You got all these characters together, let's hear what some of them have to say about eachother more, Marvel VS Capcom was great at this. Even just simple things like Hulk mixing up the two Phoenixes are great. I need more of it than just the codecs and Palutena's guidance.

 
Nov 2, 2017
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But that'd be just like playing regular stock battles, I'd like to see competitive 3v3 KoF style where you pick 3 different characters with no switching till one team is down. That'd be rad.
No, I mean that it has the potential to entirely replace normal matches. People who only want to play as one character can still do so, but they face opponents who have the option to choose different characters for each stock.