I skipped fusion in Persona 4 but I have no idea how in hindsight because it was so important to me in in P5.
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SMTV is coming to the west
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If how they handled SMTIV is anything to go on, maybe we could see it a month or two. I think the wait between the Japanese and US release of SMTIV is the shortest they have had between them (two months).
I hope they keep a similar UI for the battle system. Giving each different action a button really made battles really fast. At a point, everything is mapped to your muscle memory and you can do all sorts of shit in no time.
I'm not asking them to drop the Press Turn Based system or anything. But Persona 5 succeeded at crafting a battle system that feels really fast, snappy and cinematic while keeping you in full control of your party members.
Hopefully SMT will get the popularity it deserves after Persona 5 push. It'd be cool if we saw them pushing for a EFIGS localization too.
I'm not asking them to drop the Press Turn Based system or anything. But Persona 5 succeeded at crafting a battle system that feels really fast, snappy and cinematic while keeping you in full control of your party members.
Hopefully SMT will get the popularity it deserves after Persona 5 push. It'd be cool if we saw them pushing for a EFIGS localization too.
That's he outlier though. Look at SMt IV A, P5 (talking about JP -> West localization gap), EOV, SJ remake, etc... I just don't see 1-2 month with current Atlus.
I personally think Medusa is a huge difference over Kaneko's design. It doesn't feel anything like him, it's on the same page as Cleopatra for me.
If SMT4's Medusa design is not exactly the best, I think it is much closer to the usual demon design in feeling alone. It was very much in tone with the progressively darker atmosphere of Naraku. Apocalypse's Medusa would have felt off place.
I'm really curious to see what kind of production values this game has. I personally love the look and feel of SMT4 on 3DS but it's obviously a "handheld game" if you will when compared to something like Persona 5. Will SMT5 be closer to a spruced up SMT4, or will it get the big budget treatment we saw with P5? The trailers would suggest the latter, but we'll see. It's not terribly important either way, just something new to think about with the Switch being a hybrid console.
fallen off in sales or graphical performance? I'm assuming the latter, but I think that can be attributed to Atlus in general rather than series performance. they only have 3 HD games since the HD Era began in 2005 after all
SJR's localization got announced about a month after the game was announced in Japan. It came out about a month ago in Japan, and I'm guessing Atlus didn't want to release SJR around the holidays, so it's 2018. Or it's possible the localization actually took longer.
For mainline though, I could see it taking higher priority. Persona 5 also took high priority I imagine, but I'm not sure why that one kept getting delayed.
That's actually false. It was as I said - the fact that the game had to be ported to PS4. Hashino himself said that once that happened, all 2D assets had to literally be redrawn from scratch to be rendered in 1080p. That was one of the major hurdles, and I'm sure the transition away from the PS3's cell processor towards the PS4 wasn't easy either.
I'm also fairly certain that literally every Megaten game since the dawn of time ran on proprietary technology save for SMTV, running UE4 - and that's fine. I'd actually rather see that if it streamlines and eases development. But I think it's extreme to say it was a mistake to use their own engines, since it was never a problem until P5.
A lot of gamers are very new to Atlus and the Megaten series as a whole, and that's awesome. What's frustrating is the bizarre lie that they take forever on games. They used to put out an SMT game on like a yearly basis, and the time between Persona games was only a couple of years tops. This huge delay that happened with P5 was an aberration, not the norm.
Man this feels like bait.
I've never personally played a Shin Megami Tensei title. Maybe I'll check this out.
I am not certainly how much of a priority P5 localization took since the results were subpar. Anyway, I am going to get the game Day 1 which will be in 2019 pessimistically and 2018 optimistically.
Battle gameplay is almost identical. Instead of having other characters with Persona's though you just have demons. It's basically Persona without any of the social elements to put it bluntly. Hopefully it will have the same depth of level design as P5 did.
Similar in regards to the fact that the battle system will have a similar mechanic about exploiting weaknesses (although quite different from Persona's most likely). The tone will be completely different than Persona, taking place during the apocalypse, and being more about rebuilding the world with your alignment of choice. There's other plot details mentioned in the Famitsu article: https://gematsu.com/2017/10/shin-megami-tensei-v-will-game-sympathizes-times
There are the same set of demons (that were the shadows/personas in P5), and likely some new ones. I'd suggest going and playing Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne or Shin Megami Tensei IV then Apocalypse.
I meant priority as in a "they want to get it out there since it's the biggest selling game".
Missed this earlier but great news, hope it's a simultaneous release or at least isn't months later
SMT press turn is one of the fastest turn based battle systems in all rpgs and it has menus. Nocturne and IV are some of the fastest games I've ever played battle system wise. If the layout is anything like IV's then button mapping may be possible but it would be a bit more complex. I personally don't think press turn needs it as it is already as fast, if not faster, than Persona 5's.
Excited for the reviews and opinions at release ? Can't wait for the SMT5 edition of this :
I really struggled to get more than a couple hours into IV, but I'm looking forward to this. I just hope the opening hours are a bit more gentle for lack of a better word.
Calm down, I know SMT is supposed to be hard as balls.
Calm down, I know SMT is supposed to be hard as balls.
A evolution of Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne is all I want. I love the 3rd person view in this series.
What's wrong with Medusa? I liked her design.
I think this will be exclusive to the Switch and I THINK it was mentioned somewhere. I could be wrong. My memory isn't the best.
Mara is a female cursed by one of the Olympic gods I believe.
I think in the Direct where the demo was announced Square said it'll be Switch exclusive. Could be wrong.
These games do have a difficulty setting these days. IV's Easy Mode was unlocked after dying twice.
Excited for the reviews and opinions at release ? Can't wait for the SMT5 edition of this :
Not a huge fan of the MegaTen elitist mentality in this image. People have different opinions.
tbh none of my friends that loves persona 5 actually likes shin megami tensei games as well,I tried to have them play nocturne and even apocalypse but literally none of them liked those games and dropped mid way.After a while I had to accept the fact the two series aims for completely different audiences and yeah,I know there are people enjoy both series but not that many people like persona will also like mainline smt
Like I said my memory isn't the best and I may be confusing the lore of two demons up but it was either Medusa or Mara who was raped by Poseidon and beg Athena for some some of vengeance and ended up getting cursed instead while the other I think was all into her beauty and ended up as Medusa or a giant dick.
Ah then switch it is, was thinking maybe a PC/ PS4 port but if exclusive that's cool too. Just hope its not quite as long as Persona 5 (well drawn out should I say).
Excited for the reviews and opinions at release ? Can't wait for the SMT5 edition of this :
half of those were taken from the same review and removed from their context of discussing SMT4's intro and how it feels similar to Persona 3, and then shifts into how great the game is when you finally reach Tokyo.
It feels more like a clash of expectations to me. SMT4 was brazen in that it defied the trend by offering a harder, unforgiving package while denying everything that we've come to expect until 7 or 8 hours in.
SMT4 was ambitious, I'd like to see them offer something equally surprising and eye-popping as
the giant foreplay leading to the delightful discovery of Tokyo
Tentatively yes. The Persona 5 bump will be huge, and the Switch bump should be amazing as long as it releases by like... April 2019 at the latest.
Just don't hold me to it if I'm somehow wrong. I'm not trying to actively give you wrong info. I'm just not 100% sure because of my memory.
I get that, but there are people that actually have that mentality of "Why doesn't it have social links?" or have called it "The Dark Souls of Persona" unironically. I can see how the image comes off as elitist for sure though.
It's like that one IGN review of a Football Manager game that gave it a really terrible score because it didn't play like FIFA.
I think it was less the difficulty and more the pacing or lack of a sense of progress. I don't know, it's been a while and I'm definitely not trying to suggest a series that is revered by a hardcore fan base needs to change for filthy casuals.
I am just hoping for a more positive experience on a personal level and maybe V will be the one to do that.
It'll help to not play on the ugly painful 3ds hardware.
This is clearly not true, any quick search in any of those quotes shows snippets from different reviews and/or twitter/gaf opinions. Only the Persona 3 snippets come from the USGamer review (that is one of the few reviews that truly mentions the shift in tone when you get to that part)
Yeah I think part of the problem lies in how Atlus USA marketed Persona under the SMT label for a long time. It set up wrong expectations about what SMT was about.
Mara is from Buddhism. Medusa was the one that was cursed by the Gods.
Apocalypse's normal mode was easier than SMTIVs I found. It was more welcoming, but the hard mode (war) was a fantastic difficulty setting for me as someone experienced with the series. And there is an even harder difficulty on top of that. Difficulty settings are a good way to appeal to as many people as possible.
Extremely excited. Wasn't a big fan of SMT4, but I liked a lot of the gameplay improvements in Apocalypse even if I didn't enjoy the direction they went in tonally.