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Snes Classic can do better PS1 emulation than the PS1 Classic.
- Thread starter MRORANGE
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ps1's hardwarw is much better. 1 GB ram compared to 256 MB.
a better emulator will run the game much better on ps classic.
They look the same but the SNES classic has way higher framerates and consistent, so gives a nice smoothness.
This has nothing to do with Android
The nVidia Shield is a 150$ device that thoroughly smokes the PSClassic and provides near f'awless emulation up to the gamecube.
Sony cheapened out and instead of coding their own emulator like Nintendo did to take advatage of the lower spec hardware, theydid a pisspoor job
The PSClassic should be doing much better than the SNES one at emulating PlayStation games, it's borderline inexcusable.
The SNES Classic, in this video, is running the exact same homebrew emulator as what Sony are using in the Playstation Classic. PCSX ReARMed.
The difference in performance comes down entirely to the overhead caused by the PS Classic running on Android.
While I'm at it, the nVidia Shield also features the exact same GPU/CPU as the Switch, but doesn't perform even nearly as well; purely because it is running Android (and lacks the specialist APIs and such that Switch uses).
No, it comes from drivers quality.
The Mali 400 GPU has good known drivers and has been used in portable android emulation devices for the past 8 years, the PowerVR 8200 is a different beast.
Which is why Sony cheapened out, they didn't develop a good enough gou driver for the release they are using
The GPU wouldn't be a limiting factor in PS1 emulation, especially considering that it isn't rendering at a higher resolution, or doing any sort of filtering at all. It would be almost entirely CPU bound; and the CPU in the PS Classic is much better than the one inside the SNES Mini.
The Android overhead is the cause of the poor performance, as well as the framepacing issues.
You can use Wii Classic Controllers. The SNES Classic's controller ports are the same ones on the bottom of a Wii Remote.
The framerate on the SNES Classic is lightyears better. The graphics look the same because they're using the same emulation settings on both, no filtering or uprendering.
Eventually hackers will replace the emulator in the PS Classic, I'm sure.
Once again the Nvidia Shield is a 3+ year old device also running Android and doesn't have these issues.
And driver quality can absolutely matter even in old game emulation - poor quality GL or VK drivers can absolutely destroy even low end games. Poor drivers can cause operations to run orders of magnitude slower than they should. Go read some of the Dolphin developer's rants about driver quality on Mali & Adreno GPUs for some examples, even Intel's Windows drivers have issues that make old GC games run poorly on graphics hardware many times more powerful than the GC.
The Nvidia Shield is orders of magnitude more powerful than the PS Classic. I don't know why you're bringing it up here. The Shield's main point of comparison is the Switch, and that comparison is not flattering for the Shield...
Here we have a significantly weaker piece of hardware outperforming a substantially more capable one; while running exactly the same emulator. The main difference? One runs a fork of Linux, the other runs Android...
In this comparison? Yes. It's the same emulator running on both machines.
I'm shocked that the PS Classic is so bad. Like, I knew there were issues with its performance, but the video is pretty surprising. How close is that to the original game's performance back in the day? Because side-by-side with the SNES Classic, it's night and day.
Only on name. The SNES Classic is using the Libretro version of ReARMed, much more updated and optimized than the NoTaz version that the PS Classic uses.
Why are you saying this if you don't what you're talking about?
The Snes Classic is using PSCXRearmed CORE from Retroarch, the PSClassic is using a custom version of the STANDALONE that doesn't have half of the maintenance, fixes, patches the core version in retroarch has, stop spreading false information.
It does
Sony just didn't take advantage of it by using shitty drivers and an old version of rearmed
It does. The emulator on the PSC is way older than the one put on the SNES Classic.
Look PS Classic and Fallout 76 you have to stop making me change my mind for who to vote in the "Biggest Fuckup 2018" thread.
Christ stop being such fuck ups.
Christ stop being such fuck ups.
At least Fallout 76 is salvageable
The PS Classic just shat on 28 years of PlayStation legacy
This is really sad. The only good thing about PSC is that it looks nice. A nice PS paper weight. If you want an emulator box at that price, just pay a little more and get the Nvidia Shield TV.
Imagine the sheer lazyness of Sony not even bothering to grab the most recent build from GitHub jesus
I was under impression that only the RetroArch core was maintained?
Could the overhead thing also be something as simple as adjusting CPU governor? I don't know how existing versions of Android work, but on my Shield Portable with Lollipop, using the stock governor setting (Interactive?), I get random framerate hitches with ps1 games. It's extremely obvious with 60fps 2d games and retroarch's "sustained performance" option doesn't help or do anything. Switching to the cpu governor "Performance" though gives me perfect performance. It even increases turbo throttle speed by up to 100fps in some games.
