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Which is the better SNES game?

Poll closed Feb 20, 2018.
  1. Alien 3

    58 vote(s)
    62.4%
  2. Beavis and Butt-head

    35 vote(s)
    37.6%
  1. Spidey

    Spidey
    Member

    Updated, that was faster than I anticipated.

    Yeah, it would be preferable if it was closer to the Super Famicon boxart. How have you got on with the game by the way? The Google doc said it has sound problems but I had it crashing to a black screen as well.
     
  2. sir_crocodile

    sir_crocodile
    Member

    Would "extra_space" need to be uninstalled & reinstalled?

    --edit

    nevermind, he's done that thing again where updates are folded into an earlier release, so I assume there are no actual changes to extra_space
     
  3. Edge

    Edge
    Member


    Oh damn, i will! :D

    People got their NAND destroyed after too much playing?
     
  4. Kilrogg

    Kilrogg
    Resettlement Advisor Member

    Do the DBZ Butouden games and Hyper Dimension work now? Last time I checked NTSC Butouden 1 worked fine, but 2 and Hyper Dimension didn't. Yes, I'm talking about the NTSC (i.e. Japanese) versions in each case.
     
  5. So, what is the procedure to update? I was on release "d".
     
  6. hlhbk

    hlhbk
    Member

    So I don't see it in the OP. How do I upgrade to the latest version of Hatchi and not lose anything in my config or saves?
     
  7. SOLDIER

    SOLDIER
    Member

    Hey Robin, just want to give a big thanks for responding to the old thread while making this one as well. You continue to be a big help.

    As far as Terranigma goes, I probably won't be able to convert my Retroarch save to Canoe since I'm using an SFROM format. It still looks a big too complicated for me anyway, so it would probably be best to start over. It was only about 4 hours progress lost anyway, I could catch up to Chapter 2 pretty quickly.

    That just leaves Treasure of the Rudras and Secret of Mana (with the improved translation patch) as games I really want to work properly. I prefer not using Retroarch since it introduces (a tiny bit of) extra lag and no rewind features.
     
  8. starflyer

    starflyer
    Member

    Thanks for posting this, Terranigma finally works perfect for me on Canoe! I've been working my way back and moving my collection from using Retroarch to Canoe, the difference in input lag is noticeable enough for me to care.
     
  9. Spidey

    Spidey
    Member

    I managed to update it by just restarting Hakchi (without the SNES connected) a couple times, eventually it told me a new firmware was available and I downloaded it that way.
     
  10. SOLDIER

    SOLDIER
    Member

    Is this a more improved patch than the second patch the guy on Reddit posted? I applied that one while following the order of installing (font patch>header>NTSC>canoe patch). For this patch you posted, it adds the NTSC conversion and the canoe patch together, thus making the font patch optional?
     
  11. Robin64

    Robin64
    Member OP

    Yeah, it's a better patch. I left the font patch out because while it does make the font a bit nicer, it messes up other areas of the game just enough to annoy me.

    But if you want an all in one NTSC+Font+CanoeFix patch, that's here.
     
  12. ruvcan

    ruvcan
    Member

    Just tried it and it work, thank you, you made my day!
     
  13. Oswen

    Oswen
    Member

    Updated to 2.21f just now, is it just me or does the ui actually feel smoother?
    Yoshi's Island seems to be fixed (no sound distortion on the menu screen), now to try some other game.
     
  14. boxoctosis

    boxoctosis
    Banned Member

    i was on the original version and just update to F.

    I downloaded Hakchi, unzipped it, copied the files into my original directory, overwriting everything when it asked,
    Then, load Hakchi, flash custom firmware (you need to hold reset while powering on again for this)
    It gave me some message about a checksum not matching which I skipped past.
    Once it flashed the custom firmware again, I resynced then games.
    It all worked.

    The checksum message did worry me, but what the hell, I thought I could always reinstall the original kernel, but it all worked.
     
  15. kyorii

    kyorii
    Member

    So is it a great improvement running Seiken 3 on Canoe over Retroarch?

    And would I be able to keep my Terranigma saves from Retroarch if I changed/patched the rom?
     
  16. sir_crocodile

    sir_crocodile
    Member

    Great job Robin!

    I remember reading something that Hakchi has some sort of database that auto-sends games it knows don't work with Canoe to Retroarch. Is that true, and if so is there anything that needs to be done to stop it from doing so with the patched terranigma?
     
  17. Robin64

    Robin64
    Member OP

    As a general rule of thumb, if a game runs natively it is better than Retroarch due to the rather severe input latency Retroarch introduces on here. (I am jealous of you if you can't notice)

    It might say "This game is known to have problems, would you like to use a custom emulator?" when added to hakchi, but you can just say no. To be doubly sure, make sure the command line doesn't end in --retroarch.
     
  18. sir_crocodile

    sir_crocodile
    Member

    Ah, so it just adds the retroarch argument? That's great, I was worried it did something under the hood. Cheers.
     
  19. Weltall Zero

    Weltall Zero
    Member

    This confused me somewhat: the v2.21f version is timestamped as 15 days ago, and has the same changelog as 2.21e. However, it does seem to be the correct version to download, as the .exe within the .zip is indeed timestamped today.

    I think that was confirmed not to be an issue? (the process that was executing multiple times per second didn't write, only read).
     
  20. sir_crocodile

    sir_crocodile
    Member

    Yeah, cluster often just adds new fixes to old releases and bumps the internal version number (2.0.21.72 here). Has thrown me a few times.

    You can see the internal version number of your hakchi in help->about
     
  21. Robin64

    Robin64
    Member OP

    Even just reading can cause "Read Disturb", where nearby cells in the same block change over time and can be erased.

    (From what I gather. Totally not an expert.)
     
  22. Weltall Zero

    Weltall Zero
    Member

    Yikes. :S

    Speaking of NAND degradation, uploading games via Hakchi and such should be pretty much inoccuous, right? I mean, it's only one write cycle per cell, so theorethically you should upload like tens of thousands of times to have any effect, correct?
     
  23. ramyeon

    ramyeon
    Member

    Thank you Robin for all the work you put into this stuff. Love having those game fixes in the OP as well. Very keen to get SD3 running.
     
  24. Thanks for the info, I went through and followed your guide. It seems to have worked!
     
  25. BiggKidd32

    BiggKidd32
    Member

    Are there special settings for MegaMan X2 & X3? The audio seems to accelerate randomly for me.
     
  26. DenseProtag

    DenseProtag
    Member

    Wait what? I haven't had these issues with my SNES Classic yet but could you explain what you mean? I'm kinda scared of toasting my SNES Classic playing Date A Live or something now.
     
  27. Weltall Zero

    Weltall Zero
    Member

  28. kyorii

    kyorii
    Member

    Well damn all my progress on Seiken 3 via Retroarch will be gone if I try to play with Canoe. Sadness.

    On the other hand, Gaia runs great on Canoe outside of the black transparency issue on windows.
     
  29. ParityBit

    ParityBit
    Member

    So I am updating to f and I get the checksum warning when updating the custom kernel. I clicked ignore it. Is that okay?

    How do I know if this all worked?
     
  30. ChrisR

    ChrisR
    Member

    Does Uniracers work with Retroarch?
     
  31. Jrs3000

    Jrs3000
    Member

    Is there a patch or fix to get street fighter alpha working with Canoe?
     
  32. SOLDIER

    SOLDIER
    Member

    Yeah, I noticed that it’s significantly faster too. The pages load faster, the transition from game to home menu is quicker.
     
  33. mattneil8

    mattneil8
    Member

    I just got my SNES Classic on Sunday so I haven't had time to put any games on it yet. I may wait for more patches for Hakchi and games that are having issues.
     
  34. max.rem

    max.rem
    Member

    I messed around with Hyper Dimension using RetroArch for a few minutes. Everything seemed to be working fine. The Japanese version, I mean.
     
  35. Mailenstein

    Mailenstein
    Member

    Made a few Super Famicom boxarts for a few NP flashcard releases in Japan which never had a proper retail release, so I thought I might share them.
    Too bad there is almost no HQ official artwork from those days.

     
  36. Nairume

    Nairume
    Member

    Are 2.20b and 2.20 different versions? I'm still on 2.20.
     
  37. Nicko

    Nicko
    Member

    So I've got a strange sound issue where certain songs mute out on specific notes. I've noticed it on both games built in (secret of mana), and others I've added (Super Mario All Stars, TMNT: Turtles in time). It's quite annoying and I have no idea what might be causing it. Anyone else experienced this?
     
  38. ReyVGM

    ReyVGM
    Member

    You never replied to my possible solution to use multiple retroarch cores. Did you try it? Did it work?
     
  39. ReyVGM

    ReyVGM
    Member

    I don't know about smoother, but it does boot a lot faster now. Old versions had you wait almost 6 seconds for the system to boot the menu, with the new version the system boots as fast as a non-hacked one.

    Don't know about All Stars or TMNT4, but that's normal in Secret of Mana. Some music channels mute to make way for the sound effects sometimes.Maybe it also happens in SMAS and TMNT4, but I never noticed.
     
  40. Linkhero1

    Linkhero1
    Member

    Sweet update. I'm gonna update it as soon as possible.
     
  41. Robin64

    Robin64
    Member OP

    It's right there in the second post about game specific fixes, man.
     
  42. ReyVGM

    ReyVGM
    Member

    Question:

    The first SNESC I hacked was for a friend of mine, and I added a bunch of SNES and NES games. Then, when I hacked mine, I removed from the list all the games I wasn't interested in.

    My friend is now coming back with his SNESC to install the new hakchi. If I do that, will having removed the games from hakchi mean his games will be removed too? Or do I just need to flash the custom kernel again without synchronizing and all his games will be fine?

    What if he asks to add new games, will not having the games on the list remove the ones he has once I sync?
     
  43. OmegaDL50

    OmegaDL50
    Member

    A shame there isn't a fix for the Hi-Res mode for a modified Secret of Mana with the variable width font exists yet.

    Someone over that the Reddit released a patch that apparently works on a modified version of the game, but I tried it myself both on a headered and non-headered version and patch doesn't seem to do anything.

    I suppose it's just a matter of time though.
     
  44. C-Drive

    C-Drive
    Member

    Yes, you'll have to add his games back for syncing. To fix, don't use the web installed version of hakchi, use the .zip install. Have two separate folders of hakchi, one for his and one for yourself.
     
  45. ReyVGM

    ReyVGM
    Member

    Thanks. I'm not using the web installer, so I'm okay in that regard.

    So, crap, I have to re-add all his games and boxarts or else they will be deleted on his system if I sync...

    But I can flash the new custom kernel and his games will be intact, right?
     
  46. Robin64

    Robin64
    Member OP

    Just make a seperate folder for his SNESC, then FTP into it and download the entire games folder to hakchi's games_snes folder. Then when you reopen hakchi, all his stuff will be there, ready to sync properly.
     
  47. ReyVGM

    ReyVGM
    Member

    Ah, good idea. Thanks R64.
     
  48. Kokonoe

    Kokonoe
    Banned Member

    Did they ever figure out how to bring the NES mini's NES emulator on the SNES mini? (Not RetroArch)
     
  49. Robin64

    Robin64
    Member OP

    They did and it's over at Reddit. Search for something along the lines of "NES/SNES Classic Dualboot Mod v0.3. No more C7/C8 issues, fully compatible with hakchi2 v2.21d.". At a guess. I don't want to directly link as it has some files I am not sure should be distributed.
     
  50. Jrs3000

    Jrs3000
    Member

    Robin64 thanks man I'm blind totally missed the that game listed there.