We'll be talking the same shit in twenty years when they have concentration camps, because Palestinians are brown and majority Muslim and Israel is the fucking teflon state, pretending to be a liberal democracy when they are clearly not.
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Snipers ordered to shoot children, Israeli general confirms
- Thread starter zer0blivion
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Since they are already committing it right now, of course it can mean that.
They can forget their history but the rest of the world needs to keep reminding itself and at the same time allow them to do the same horrible things that happened to them... Logic!
The nation of Israel seems to have taken the defensive stance of "if you can't beat them..."
Seriously though the irony of the situation is depressing. We never learn our species. An eye for an eye is never a great starter, but an eye of someone who's not even to blame takes the piss.
Yep, fuck Israel, and even harder fuck those who defend them at all costs and try to deligitimise any and all criticism to the extent of wanting to make it illegal to do so. Fuck this world.
you guys are surprised by this ? since when the fuck did they show caring about who they killed and then people act surprised when terrorist organizations pop up in the region.
I'm anxious to see the creativity of Hasbara trolls to turn this into another whataboutism thread.
America gonna send a few billion in arms extra, so that they can wipe them out even quicker.
Disgusting, vile regime, that has the worlds super power in its pocket. Does what it wants, and nobody does anything. Bibi, his cabinet and the general staff are war-criminals.
Disgusting, vile regime, that has the worlds super power in its pocket. Does what it wants, and nobody does anything. Bibi, his cabinet and the general staff are war-criminals.
Indeed, and it's so frustrating that not only will the US do nothing, but that there's like, no option to really change that at all. Republicans refuse to criticize Israel at all, and it's the same thing with most Democrats as well and that the farthest most Democrats are willing to go is still typically just absolutely toothless finger-wagging at worst that Israel obviously doesn't care much about. Both of our major political parties are completely spineless when it comes to the issue of Israel and offer them so much as the slightest critique for all of their war crimes and violations of human rights of Palestinians and fine with appointing representatives to the UN that will just instantly veto anything and everyting, and just let it all continue unopposed. It's just so crushing knowing that things have to change, they absolutely have to because way too much has happened already, but they just absolutely refuse to because no one's actually willing to fight that fight and take a stance on this. The whole thing it's just so fucking frustrating and depressing to think about, and makes me feel so powerless, much more so than most other stuff in politics just due to the feeling of having so little options regarding change on this issue. Just ugh. :(
Wow, didn't think he'd just come out and say it. The Israeli military murders children because they may be a future threat. Pretty sure that's ethnic cleansing. Too bad most of our government and population won't care. Disgusting.
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If you're a politician in Israel, you can't call it murder either.
You cannot occupy another people and consider yourself a just society — Haneen Zoabi, suspended Palestinian legislator
This has been going on for years , and to think some people actually believe the US gives a fuck about human rights
Any mainstream or neutral news organizations picking this up? Only seen RT, Sputnik News, and a conspiracy theory site running with it so far. I read the transcript, and it's pretty damning.
"Fogel's statements could be used as evidence of intent if Israeli leaders are ever tried for war crimes at the International Criminal Court."
That's a big IF.
That's a big IF.
The people who genuinely believe that are in the minority, however, just because U.S ignores other atrocities does not mean it should for all.
As for this topic, the only politician that I know of that has a chance of winning the presidency that would be even slightly critical of Israel is Bernie. We have no true options of changing this policy of Israel 2nd (2nd to U.S) any time soon.
No, just that makes people suspicious about what the true intentions are when they don't because we already know for a fact that they don't actually care about the human suffering
The only way to counter this sort of behavior is for a united front among all muslim nations. Similarly to the west, if they form an alliance and apply pressure, for example withholding oil exports completely, the world economy would quickly collapse and maybe then support for this sort of behavior would stop. This sort of alliance is very unlikely, so things will continue for the foreseeable future.
There is always someone to defend it when Israel gets critized.
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I doubt mainstream outlets will report on this.
Edit: Maybe someone fluent in English and Hebrew can vouch for the accuracy of the translation.
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This isn't tactical language, or military language or security language. It is a language of vengeance and terror and even blood debt. This person simply doesn't care what the world thinks.
God that girl in the yellow really made me rage, and the other clowns. They just cannot deal with facts
I didn't listen to the whole thing, but the minutes that I did were dead accurate.
No surprise here.
in before Rusty gets banned and mods close this thread *nothing to see here folks*
in before Rusty gets banned and mods close this thread *nothing to see here folks*
At what point do other nations at the UN say fuck what the US says, we will take care of it ourselves?
Well if Electronic Intifada says it is true...
That is the source. They are quoting a "reserve" general with a Wikipedia page.
I would be interested to see if the person they quoted had a Wikipedia page more then a week before this story. I cannot read said page because it is in a foreign language.
Whatever the case, Israel certainly has not been the good guy in this conflict. Both sides are totally locked into a hateful stalemate.
Israel needs new less aggressive leadership, and to withdraw from Palestinian territory. But I think with these sort of situations you need to at least consider the source, or at the bare minimum read the article.
I would certainly respect an informed opinion over fuck Israel.
That is the source. They are quoting a "reserve" general with a Wikipedia page.
I would be interested to see if the person they quoted had a Wikipedia page more then a week before this story. I cannot read said page because it is in a foreign language.
Whatever the case, Israel certainly has not been the good guy in this conflict. Both sides are totally locked into a hateful stalemate.
Israel needs new less aggressive leadership, and to withdraw from Palestinian territory. But I think with these sort of situations you need to at least consider the source, or at the bare minimum read the article.
I would certainly respect an informed opinion over fuck Israel.
The question is why? Is every US politician in Israel's pocket?
Are they bank-rolling every campaign? With the threat of funds going to someone else in the event of some form of criticism?
How can every politician think the same? Or do they fear the same thing will happen to them like Gen Dan Patraeous (spelling check). Calls Israel a "pariah state" then is forced to resign not long afterward because of some skeletons in his closet being exposed?
It's a strange situation in Washington
That isn't the source. The source is the interview that they reference, link, and provide a translation of.