Marcie.Even Snoopy??? Dang.
Who's the other kid sitting by their self?
How is it that this has already been handled in the thread repeatedly, this and all the other "maybe it wasn't" and "but what if" variations and people are still showing up like PERHAPS IT WAS INNOCENT AND NOT INTENTIONALLY RACIST
I don't think that's really fair tbh, but whatever. As I've said above we should probably just put the idiom to bed given it's racist connotations, but growing up with phrases without knowing they're offensive or racist is a genuine thing. Phrases like "peanut gallery", "rule of thumb", "sold down the river", "gypped", etc. are all bad and people still use them since they grew up with them without realizing. I don't think people are defending their racist connotations, but I do think people can say these things without realizing because they've heard them all their lives.
edit- also eenie meenie miney mo, which people still use to this day.
Oh, I think I misread (like I skipped a word or two) after all the other sudden appearances of BUT WHAT ABOUTS that were popping up after that had already been dealt with. My apologies.My take, for what it's worth, is that it is very easy to want to have a conversation about the history, possible 'innocent use' etc of words or phrases when you're not being harmed by their continued use. Privileged people have the benefit of it being an intellectual exercise.
Nothing is wrong with the phrase rule of thumb. There's an old wives tale that it was derived by some old law that said a man could hit his wife, so long as the stick wasn't wider than his thumb. That's not true, and has been debunked many times by how long the phrase has been in useJust wondering , but whats wrong with "rule of thumb"? or "eenie meeny miny mo"?
Nothing is wrong with the phrase rule of thumb. There's an old wives tale that it was derived by some old law that said a man could hit his wife, so long as the stick wasn't wider than his thumb. That's not true, and has been debunked many times by how long the phrase has been in use
???Peppermint Patty has had a crush on Charlie Brown for as long as I can remember.
The Peanuts gang have never been anything else but wholesome fun for the last 50 years or so, if anyone gets a pass on making a unfortunate comment it will be them. (Maybe im wrong and someone can point out something else)
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saying this in response to my post implies something about you and what is wholesome
Eenie meeny miny mo used to be a very racist song taught to kids. My mother told me once very embarrased that when she was a kid the lyrics weren't "catch a tiger by the tow" it was exactly what your first horrified thought is. Now as a child they didnt have any idea this was racist, it was just one of the ways to "subtly" indoctrinate kids into the idea that black people were "other"Just wondering , but whats wrong with "rule of thumb"? or "eenie meeny miny mo"?
Eenie meeny miny mo used to be a very racist song taught to kids. My mother told me once very embarrased that when she was a kid the lyrics weren't "catch a tiger by the tow" it was exactly what your first horrified thought is. Now as a child they didnt have any idea this was racist, it was just one of the ways to "subtly" indoctrinate kids into the idea that black people were "other"
Holy shit, I had no idea. That's really fucked up.Eenie meeny miny mo used to be a very racist song taught to kids. My mother told me once very embarrased that when she was a kid the lyrics weren't "catch a tiger by the tow" it was exactly what your first horrified thought is. Now as a child they didnt have any idea this was racist, it was just one of the ways to "subtly" indoctrinate kids into the idea that black people were "other"