So first of all, if there is some sort of specific condemnation phrasing that will make you stop implying that I'm cool with genocide or whatever let me know and I would sign it in triplicate.
I'm not sure why you're acting like I have some hidden agenda so I'll repeat myself as clear as possible -
I gave you an out in my prior post which you evaded. Again. I'm taking this as a confirmation, nothing else explains your reaction to those questions or your stance defending China in this thread.
Your "aw shucks" routine is wearing thin.
I think there is no reason for the US to take such aggressive stance against China, I think China is not trying to harm the US, and I don't know what specifically you are suggesting to do with China, but things like sanctions are only gonna hurt the Chinese people. And if you're upset that they don't hate their life enough to regime change their government for you, then honestly, you gonna need to be okay with that, because making them poorer is not gonna work, and you most certainly should not pretend that you're doing it to help Chinese people.
You don't think what's going on with the Uighur Muslims in China is worth levering sanctions? Stop moving the goalposts, this isn't about China harming the US, this is about China harming Chinese citizens and the global community's reaction to it. Your phrasing is eerily reminiscent of propaganda and psy-ops for my liking. Conflating your opinion as the only one who matters about caring for Chinese people sure is something, when I'm the one who's shown outrage about what's going on with Chinese citizens while you're ignoring it. The frame defines you as the sole authority of their well being when that's not true.
You can't keep ignoring who is currently running the US, I'm sorry.
Projection. Where are your complaints about the abuse and torture the Chinese government is doing with its own citizens in the threads I linked? Not a word from you here, I may as well not typed it.
I'm not ignoring it, I'm openly condemning it because atrocities are bad no matter which government does it.
Again, let's say whatever you think the west should do in regards to China is done, and let's see the west "win", and China bend the knee and say "the pain is too much, we say uncle, we'll do whatever you want". They're not gonna go to the "many Americans who care about Muslim suffering", they're gonna go to the White House,
This is framing filled with imagery from the times of the
Century of humiliation and negative stereotypes of the West/America as the "bad guy" when this is a vastly more complicated circumstance where the West to achieve what they want. Both nations have done many good and bad things in their histories and it's debatable there is a true "good" side in a cold war where that to occur. Which you know.
and you can't keep pretending that the lives of Muslims anywhere are gonna be better with more input from Trump and his administration.
I'm not, you keep injecting Trump or Bush bout the American government as though they are immortal manifestations of it rather than temporary rulers and completely ignore the Democrats both when they become POTUS and as a mainstream political party here. It's harder to discredit America when you pretend the only party who's been elected are Republicans. America isn't China, it's not a one party state.
This would only be possible under another, preferably Democratic, president.
Much like the poor suffering Iraqi in the torture chamber and the rape palaces weren't helped by Bush.
Which I was against, because not every American adores Bush or what he's done. Tell me, what's your stance on what's going on with the Uighurs?
Strawmanning every American you interact with as being a pro Trump/Bush Republican who disagrees with you is disingenuous. I hated the Iraq war, both Bushes and Trump. This is obvious to anyone who follows my posting history, and you know me well enough to know that.
America shouts about human rights every time it talks with or about China, but it doesn't really have any demands from China about that. You are supporting something that has goals that are not really aligned with what you claim you care about. You really don't notice how the people who hates diplomacy always shout about human rights to justify their hawkish stance?
This ignores the hypocrisy on China's regarding human rights. Both nations have been terrible about that, however, nations not condemning others over human rights would be detrimental to human rights globally and cease any pushback for any nations which employ those methods. This completely ignores the numerous people, who aren't war criminals, who do speak up about human rights and are from the West. Trump doesn't for me as Xi doesn't speak for every Chinese citizen.
If this is about America having an economic anxiety that China gonna have higher GDP then them, then let's talk about that.
Moving the goalposts further to get away from what we were discussing earlier.
I'm going to take as a confirmation you'd be on China's side in a theoretical cold war with the US. You're not fooling anybody.