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So, Era, I'm making a fighting game. (Update: Project Cancelled)
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Have you developed games anywhere before? How's your artistic ability? Experience with 3D modeling or line art? Do you have software engineering experience? Are you aware of iterative design (you're going to need to be)?
I've been dabbling in more serious game dev for a bit now, and it's just as hard as I expected.
I've been dabbling in more serious game dev for a bit now, and it's just as hard as I expected.
You should make characters from countries that barely have characters like Turkmenistan, Botswana or Belize.
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No.
Good, in my personal opinion. I do illustration work as a job.
Line art yes, 3d no.
No, but that's what I'm attempting to learn.
Yes, I'm aware of interative design.
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Lots, but main ones are Guilty Gear, Vampire Savior, and UNIST
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I do want to have neutral be a focus but not the main thing. Oki won't be absent I can assure you.
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Anyway, you're already trying way too much. Being a jack-of-all-trades is no good. It takes many years to become proficient in any aspect of gamedev. Focus on one of these, hire people to help you out with the rest.
I've seen many projects that begin and then go nowhere (shoutouts to Gigamaidens, lol). Even games like Skullgirls took a lot of time and money to finally release, but who knows, I think Vanguard Princess was made by one person, but said person worked for Capcom before.
But hey, don't let your dreams be memes, as they say, maybe you'll make the next Skullgirls happen.
This too, maybe start making a character in MUGEN, or something and see how it goes.
But hey, don't let your dreams be memes, as they say, maybe you'll make the next Skullgirls happen.
This too, maybe start making a character in MUGEN, or something and see how it goes.
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I guess that makes sense, and I'll take you advice on seeking help.
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See if other Era members can maybe help you out and take work load off just your shoulders.
Also, make sure to include short hops ALA KoF.
Also, make sure to include short hops ALA KoF.
If you've never programmed a large project before, I'd really recommend starting with some smaller project first, before going into the fighting game. Something like a super simple Bejeweled clone, or a very basic 2D platformer. Or even just a super simple fighter on the level of Divekick or those NES karate fighting games or something.
As a beginner, you're pretty likely to mess things up to the point you'll feel like starting over, and realizing you've fucked up on a small project is much better than doing it on your dream game. My first "real" coding project taught me way more than years of college in terms of how to actually write code. Plus, it'll get you some perspective on just how demanding solo game-dev can be, so that if you give up you'll at least have something to show for it.
Also, just in case your tutorials don't cover this (because I know a lot don't), make sure you:
1. Use a version control system (like git) along with a web host (like Github or Bitbucket). Not only does this give you online backups so you never lose your code, but it also lets you define what are basically code "checkpoints". So that whenever something breaks (and it very likely will), you can easily check what you changed since the last working version, or as a last resort just delete all of these changes to get back to the last working version.
2. Write tests. No one likes doing it, but everyone at some point in the project wishes they did. It will make your life a thousand times easier when working on such a large project.
If you're going to actually code things instead of just using Unreal blueprints, I'd also recommend maybe checking out Unity (or even Game Maker if you're doing 2d stuff). Unreal Engine uses C++ for the code part, and that's pretty much the worst language for a beginner to use in my opinion. It just gives you too many options to break things, and has a ton of hidden complexity that's hard to grasp even for more experienced programmers.
As a beginner, you're pretty likely to mess things up to the point you'll feel like starting over, and realizing you've fucked up on a small project is much better than doing it on your dream game. My first "real" coding project taught me way more than years of college in terms of how to actually write code. Plus, it'll get you some perspective on just how demanding solo game-dev can be, so that if you give up you'll at least have something to show for it.
Also, just in case your tutorials don't cover this (because I know a lot don't), make sure you:
1. Use a version control system (like git) along with a web host (like Github or Bitbucket). Not only does this give you online backups so you never lose your code, but it also lets you define what are basically code "checkpoints". So that whenever something breaks (and it very likely will), you can easily check what you changed since the last working version, or as a last resort just delete all of these changes to get back to the last working version.
2. Write tests. No one likes doing it, but everyone at some point in the project wishes they did. It will make your life a thousand times easier when working on such a large project.
If you're going to actually code things instead of just using Unreal blueprints, I'd also recommend maybe checking out Unity (or even Game Maker if you're doing 2d stuff). Unreal Engine uses C++ for the code part, and that's pretty much the worst language for a beginner to use in my opinion. It just gives you too many options to break things, and has a ton of hidden complexity that's hard to grasp even for more experienced programmers.
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Their viewpoints make sense, there have been plenty of projects start and not go anywhere.
Good luck OP. Hope it pans out for you. Don't get down on yourself if it doesnt, take solace in even attempting to do so.
Maybe do small small small scale personal projects before tackling something like a fighting game. Even a game like Footsies is a huge undertaking if you're new to gamedev.
Then again, even if you don't complete this game you'll learn a shitload and having the motivation is the most important part.
Then again, even if you don't complete this game you'll learn a shitload and having the motivation is the most important part.
You should share progress in our indie and hobby game dev thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ho...-coding-composing-everythinging.90470/page-43
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ho...-coding-composing-everythinging.90470/page-43
are there shortcuts to make special moves? Like pressing rb for ki blasts(rival schools let you use RBor RT for special burning vigor attacks)
sorry I just always loved the idea of a fighter with returning projectiles. You make whatever characters you want though not trying to put any real request out there, just something I've always wanted to see implemented
Well OP I will wish you luck. You have a tough road ahead assuming you dont give up, but im rooting for you
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This. People can be pretty negative but if you go into it with the mindset that the learning process is more important then delivering a professional quality game, you can't fail.
Don't listen to the negative nancys in this thread, the important thing is to start the project and dedicate yourself. Even if you come short, it doesn't matter, the experience you'll earn in the process might be something that will help you in life/career.
Maybe try to find a community on the internet that is doing similar things, where you can find like-minded people to bounce ideas back and forth, or just in general seek advice.
Also, don't forget to have fun while you're doing it.
Maybe try to find a community on the internet that is doing similar things, where you can find like-minded people to bounce ideas back and forth, or just in general seek advice.
Also, don't forget to have fun while you're doing it.
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Well, what would you like me to show? I do have some concept art.
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I don't expect to make the best game I could make right off the bat, I'm more than ready to fail over and over.
Not to be rude, but, uh...
...No you're not.
Edit: actually, allow me to be more helpful: 100% learn to make much, much simpler, smaller games first. Because going straight for a fighting game with zero experience in making games will result in nothing.
Trying to learn this way is going to be far less effective, if it's effective at all. You're filling your head with a whole bunch of shit concerns you don't need to be worried about yet because you're trying to run before you can walk.
Baby steps, first.
...No you're not.
Edit: actually, allow me to be more helpful: 100% learn to make much, much simpler, smaller games first. Because going straight for a fighting game with zero experience in making games will result in nothing.
If you truly value the learning process then you should try to learn the right way. Start with small, easily manageable solo projects that can be completed in short time frames.
Trying to learn this way is going to be far less effective, if it's effective at all. You're filling your head with a whole bunch of shit concerns you don't need to be worried about yet because you're trying to run before you can walk.
Baby steps, first.
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