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So is Clegane Bowl actually happening? If so, how do you see it playing out?

Is Clegane Bowl going down?

  • Yes

    Votes: 246 53.7%
  • No

    Votes: 40 8.7%
  • I'm gonna have to eat every fucking chicken in this room

    Votes: 172 37.6%

  • Total voters
    458
Oct 25, 2017
13,099
#1
Assume there will be Spoilers in this thread before going any further:

Title says it all. With only 5 episodes left do you have any level of confidence The Hound is going to fight The Mountain aka Clegane Bowl? I'm guessing it'll be a part of the Battle of Winterfell but perhaps it could be reserved for a finale if somehow the Night King gets defeated early on. Thoughts?
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,143
#5
My armchair theory: The Zombie Mountain gets posessed by the night king and fights the Hound with the help of Arya and he's defeated when the Hound uses Berric's flaming sword.

Fanfictiony as fuck but it seems right in line with where D&D seem to be taking these characters.
 
Oct 30, 2017
14,553
DFW, Texas
#7
Clegaine bowl will absolutely happen.


My official prediction is that Sandor will save someone from his brother (probably Arya or Brienne) and they will fight to the death. Sandor will win the fight, but is mortally wounded in the process. Arya will put him out of his misery after he asks her if she remembers where the Heart is.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,404
#15
Clegaine bowl will absolutely happen.


My official prediction is that Sandor will save someone from his brother (probably Arya or Brienne) and they will fight to the death. Sandor will win the fight, but is mortally wounded in the process. Arya will put him out of his misery after he asks her if she remembers where the Heart is.

Ooh, I like this one. Especially after their conversation in Ep.1.
 
#18
True. The show really ruined the mountain's character. The book will handle it better.

But yeah, it's happening
How will the book handle it better? The Mountain ends up in literally the exact same predicament at the end of the last book as he does in the show. He is a non-verbal walking zombie under the control of Qyburn and Cersei. How is that suddenly going to change in the new books?
 
Aug 6, 2018
3,028
#21
My armchair theory: The Zombie Mountain gets posessed by the night king and fights the Hound with the help of Arya and he's defeated when the Hound uses Berric's flaming sword.

Fanfictiony as fuck but it seems right in line with where D&D seem to be taking these characters.
Theres no way the night king doesnt end up controlling the mountain, i agree
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,367
#24
It's pretty much been confirmed happening when the Hound confronted his Zombie brother in the Dragon Pit last season.
As per how... I'm going to guess it will revolve around the assassination attempt (hopefully successfully) on Cercei, and will therefore probably also involve Tyrion, Arya and Qyburn.
 
Oct 29, 2017
9,886
#25
How will the book handle it better? The Mountain ends up in literally the exact same predicament at the end of the last book as he does in the show. He is a non-verbal walking zombie under the control of Qyburn and Cersei. How is that suddenly going to change in the new books?
I don't know. I'm not a writer. But we know once the show got ahead of the books the writing went to shit. they couldn't rely on George RR Martin any longer. So I'm confident Martin will do a better job. The show has been pretty poor the last couple of seasons.
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,143
#29
Whatever ends up happening, the thing I'm actually most certain of is that the Mountain murders Qyburn in some gruesome way. The setup for a Frankenstein's monster esque end for Qyburn seems super obvious.

Brb, writing my dope new fanfiction.
 
#30
I don't know. I'm not a writer. But we know once the show got ahead of the books the writing went to shit. they couldn't rely on George RR Martin any longer. So I'm confident Martin will do a better job. The show has been pretty poor the last couple of seasons.
You don't seem to understand what I am saying. GRRM has already made The Mountain into a non-verbal zombie terminator in the books. There is literally nothing different between the Book's version of the Zombie Mountain and the shows Zombie Mountain. Not a single thing.


The show did exactly the same thing with Gregor Clegaine as GRRM did. They changed nothing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,601
#31
They start fighting, Gregor tries to grab him but he's just a zombie, far too slow and eventually just limps about and falls down. Sandor takes his brother's helmet off and just he's a moaning and pathectic zombie, that can carry out simple tasks like cutting a peasant's guts out but doesn't have the wits to keep up with a decent opponent. Sandor feeling sorry for him, walks away, realises he's not his brother anymore but a husk of a man. Some peasants then start kicking him to death, as the moutain is walked over and stamped to death by the small people. That would subvert expectations.
 
Oct 26, 2017
989
#33
They start fighting, Gregor tries to grab him but he's just a zombie, far too slow and eventually just limps about and falls down. Sandor takes his brother's helmet off and just he's a moaning and pathectic zombie, that can carry out simple tasks like cutting a peasant's guts out but doesn't have the wits to keep up with a decent opponent. Sandor feeling sorry for him, walks away, realises he's not his brother anymore but a husk of a man. Some peasants then start kicking him to death, as the moutain is walked over and stamped to death by the small people. That would subvert expectations.
That'd be an ugly yet fitting death for The Mountain. So it probably won't happen.
 
Dec 5, 2017
302
#35
It'll happen...but I'm not sure how.

Could simply be in the midst of a battle.
Could be a trial by combat for Cersei's life.
Could be The Mountain is taken over by the Night King.
Could be that The Hound is 'The Prince that was promised', he'll draw a flaming sword from a fire .. and then take out The Mountain.
I could see The Hound sacrificing himself to take The Mountain with him.
I could see The Hound sacrficing himself to save Arya from The Mountain.
I could see The Hound being killed by The Mountain and then resurrected by Beric (who gives his life force to save him).

The Mountain will be dead by the end of the series...The Hound is a tougher call.

..but whatever happens, there will be a major key moment where The Hound overcomes his fear of fire to defeat a major enemy/rescue someone/turn the tide of battle (although it might well be after his fear costs someone else their life).
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,174
#36
Have we seen Gregor Clegane fight anyone since he was..uh.. saved??

Aside from smashing some poor peasants head into the wall and wrecking a handful of the Sparrow's loser bodyguards, he hasn't really fought a skilled warrior, has he?

Maybe I'm forgetting someone?
 
Oct 29, 2017
9,886
#37
You don't seem to understand what I am saying. GRRM has already made The Mountain into a non-verbal zombie terminator in the books. There is literally nothing different between the Book's version of the Zombie Mountain and the shows Zombie Mountain. Not a single thing.


The show did exactly the same thing with Gregor Clegaine as GRRM did. They changed nothing.
Still early on the book though. Let's wait and see
 
Feb 24, 2018
167
#41
You don't seem to understand what I am saying. GRRM has already made The Mountain into a non-verbal zombie terminator in the books. There is literally nothing different between the Book's version of the Zombie Mountain and the shows Zombie Mountain. Not a single thing.

The show did exactly the same thing with Gregor Clegaine as GRRM did. They changed nothing.
Maybe. I'm not saying you are wrong, and I'm not taking a side in the GRRM will do it better debate , but we know almost nothing about unGreggor in the books. You are just assuming they are the same. Its even speculated that he doesnt actually have a head, in book discussions.
We know far more about show Gregor than book Gregor at this point. And considering how drastically different some of the other characters are from their show counterparts, we dont know enough about Gregor to state hes the same character at this point.
 
Oct 26, 2017
989
#42
It'll happen...but I'm not sure how.

Could simply be in the midst of a battle.
Could be a trial by combat for Cersei's life.
Could be The Mountain is taken over by the Night King.
Could be that The Hound is 'The Prince that was promised', he'll draw a flaming sword from a fire .. and then take out The Mountain.
I could see The Hound sacrificing himself to take The Mountain with him.
I could see The Hound sacrficing himself to save Arya from The Mountain.
I could see The Hound being killed by The Mountain and then resurrected by Beric (who gives his life force to save him).

The Mountain will be dead by the end of the series...The Hound is a tougher call.

..but whatever happens, there will be a major key moment where The Hound overcomes his fear of fire to defeat a major enemy/rescue someone/turn the tide of battle (although it might well be after his fear costs someone else their life).
Let NK take over Mountain while outside King's Landing. He kills Cersei, storms through the Red Keep and eventually dies to a bajillion arrows. Sandor never gets his reunion and when they find his brothers rotting corpse he just goes ham on it because he's selectively vindictive & petty. Or he just sets the Mountain on fire and then has to fight a flaming dark souls boss
 
Oct 28, 2017
896
#43
If it was true to the spirit of the books then if CleganeBowl were to happen it would be the biggest anticlimax of all time, so what should happen is that the Mountain just smashes the Hound instantly and that's that. Game over.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,123
#48
Hound is down on one knee...Robert Strong is just too much for him...Arya jumps in scene with her new darth maul valerian steel weapon and stands back to back with the hound...they precede to dismember Robert Strong with a pageantry and flourish unlike any ever seen since Ser Arthur Dayne, twirling the valerian nunchuck/speardagger between them and cutting Robert Strong into pieces.
 
Oct 25, 2017
813
#49
I'm more curious in how these 2 characters will end up in the same place. The Mountain follows Cersei like a pet and I don't see her going North at all, where the Hound currently is.

So...unless the Hound survive the Battle of Winterfell and flee to Kings Landing to escape the undead, I can't see how them fighting make any sense.
 
#50
Yes it's got to happen. The Hound wins, maybe with a little help from Arya. I want him to survive too.

Arya then crosses him off her list because they have a weird bond and they kinda like each other (just a little bit) after the time they spent together, even though they probably wouldn't admit it.