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So is Clegane Bowl actually happening? If so, how do you see it playing out?
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My guess is Winterfell is gonna fall and they have to retreat back to Kings Landing and the final battle will take place there, along with the Clegane Bowl.
Mountain is winning the fight and Arya kills him with an eye poke outta nowhere. Arya saves Hound and then there is a cornball line about being even.
After last season's finale they have to. No other reason to show Sandor confronting Gregor like that.
"You know who's coming for you. You've always known."
"You know who's coming for you. You've always known."
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I'm not sure I buy that theory. How do you pull off that course of events in 4 episodes (since we pretty much know that the battle of Winterfell is at the earliest in Episode 3) plus, how are they retreating if the army is already on them? I think the NK goes down in the Battle of Winterfell and Dany/Jons army is ravaged and what little is left goes after Cersei.
It's absolutely mental to me that the entire show has been building up to the White Walkers and Night King since the very first episode and pretty much the whole conflict is going to be resolved within 5 episodes or fewer. I'm not sure how you fit developments between the Cleganes in all that.
I'm not even sure how Cersei's story is going to be resolved. Do Jon/Dany defeat the Night King then ride south to take King's Landing? I suppose Clegane Bowl could happen then but that would almost seem like a sideshow when so much else has to happen in the next 5 episodes. The only thing I'd say is the last couple of seasons have felt very fanservicey and it's something I can see happening just because people want it so much.
I'm not even sure how Cersei's story is going to be resolved. Do Jon/Dany defeat the Night King then ride south to take King's Landing? I suppose Clegane Bowl could happen then but that would almost seem like a sideshow when so much else has to happen in the next 5 episodes. The only thing I'd say is the last couple of seasons have felt very fanservicey and it's something I can see happening just because people want it so much.
Rian, is that you?
Doesn't Yara literally say that she's going back to take the Iron Islands, as it would be a logical location to retreat to if Winterfall falls (which it obviously will)?
It'll happen then people will complain that it wasn't as good as Hound vs Brienne or Mountain vs Viper
Given that episode 3 is supposed to be a big episode and bearing in mind the geography I would imagine that the action and associated survivors will move south to KL thereafter.
After Hound slays the Mountain he's gonna turn into an actual dog like Michael Jackson at the end of that one music video, never to be seen or heard from again.
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Will it though? If Winterfell falls then, the NK army will be incredibly massive and unstoppable. They might as well end the show there.
My theory:
> Night King whoops ass at Winterfell. Marches south.
> Begins clashing with Cersei's army
> Night King makes eye contact with The Mountain
> The Mountain, already being a dead zombie man thing, immediately turns wight'ified (blue eyes, zombie, etc etc)
> Kills Cersei and all of her Kingsguard
> The Hound arrives at some point and fights double zombie Mountain
> Has to use fire to kill him because he is a wight now, irony because of he's scared of fire/Mountain due to childhood
> Night King whoops ass at Winterfell. Marches south.
> Begins clashing with Cersei's army
> Night King makes eye contact with The Mountain
> The Mountain, already being a dead zombie man thing, immediately turns wight'ified (blue eyes, zombie, etc etc)
> Kills Cersei and all of her Kingsguard
> The Hound arrives at some point and fights double zombie Mountain
> Has to use fire to kill him because he is a wight now, irony because of he's scared of fire/Mountain due to childhood
Absolutely. There's no way that entire arc is getting wrapped up by episode 3.
The showrunners didn't drop that bit about the Iron Islands if they didn't have the intention of a retreat there.
I think we know how it's going to end- A band of fighters will go on a suicide mission to kill the NK, because once he dies the army falls. That will probably be episode 4.
Well 4 episodes are longer, so should have time and I think a lot of the army will fall but will try to hold off the dead for as long as possible, while the important characters have to retreat to Kings Landing.
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That's highly debateable. It could easily just be the end of Yara's story arc. She goes home and reclaims her rightful throne. Theon goes back to Winterfell where he feels he belongs and probably dies. The NK has the dragon now so he could easily fly over to the Iron Islands are scorch them.
How are they escaping though? I mean I guess Jon and Dany could escape on Dragons but how is everyone else getting away? Remember Hardhome? The only way out is by water or air and even then there is a frost dragon now.
Yeah possible. They could end up retreating there first and then go to Kings Landing after.
Well, then how does the army of the dead fall? Do you think they get wiped out in episode 3?
Because as you say, if most die at Winterfell then NK's army just gets that much stronger... The only legitimate way to take them out is to have our brave soldiers go on a suicide mission to try and take out the NK and destroy the army. I don't see any other way they win, unless your argument is that the NK wins.
It's going to happen in the last episode, because that's exactly what would happen if it was going to happen.
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My theory is that Dany/Jon win at Winterfell. The NK goes down presumably in some epic Dragon battle but at an incredibly heavy price. The remaining forces are now an equal match for whats left in KL.
The Hound being defeated first, but Beric gives his life for The Hound so The Hound get's resurrected and defeats the Mountain.
That would be cool and a callback to the books where (Beric or Thoros, don't remember) gives his life to resurrect Catelyn so she becames Stoneheart.
That would be cool and a callback to the books where (Beric or Thoros, don't remember) gives his life to resurrect Catelyn so she becames Stoneheart.
It's a pretty obvious prediction about ep3, and not related to the Hound/Mountain but:
Winterfell is gonna get stomped.
Some catch a ride on the dragons and others on horse ? A big battle is going to be chaotic, so shouldn't be hard for a few people to slip away.
Also the Night king and his new pet might not be at the battle, the massive army of the dead and a few White Walkers are probably enough to take Winterfell.
yep i've always thought that when it happens, they're both going to die. mountain first, then the hound after peacefully watching his brother die
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Some counter thoughts:
A "few" people isn't going to be enough to mount any sort of attack on KL or counterattack on the NK. If the Frost Dragon isn't at Winterfell then Dany and Jon can just roast the entire army of the dead from way in the sky.
Have we ever actually seen the Mountain win something against a named character?
Loras beat him handily, when he lost his shit about that then the Hound managed to hold him off until he fucked off. Oberyn kicked the shit out of him and only lost because he's an idiot.
I know he's got offscreen achievements but other than his ridiculous size I wouldn't be worried about too many named characters going against him.
Maybe I've forgotten something and people can shed some light.
Loras beat him handily, when he lost his shit about that then the Hound managed to hold him off until he fucked off. Oberyn kicked the shit out of him and only lost because he's an idiot.
I know he's got offscreen achievements but other than his ridiculous size I wouldn't be worried about too many named characters going against him.
Maybe I've forgotten something and people can shed some light.
I mean, if the NK fails at Winterfell, why the hell would anyone continue the conflict in the immediate aftermath? They need to destroy NK at some point and he's the self destruct button so they might as well raise the stakes.
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Dany's whole arc is gathering an army to take the Iron Throne. The NK is just a bump in the road.
I think Brienne vs. Bronn would make a better duel than Hound vs. Mountain.
Hound vs. Mountain is just going to be Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant @ Wrestlemania 3. Lots of hype turning into a rather boring match.
Hound vs. Mountain is just going to be Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant @ Wrestlemania 3. Lots of hype turning into a rather boring match.
Sure, there are many ways the battle could go but will Dany want to risk her Dragons when the time comes, as she's scared in case the Night king takes another or both......
Maybe The Hound says fuck it half way through the battle, when things look bad and he ends up back at Kings Landing.
A full on assault? No.
But they have Varys on their side and Varys knows the hidden passages of Kings Landing like nobody else. A sneak attack is much easier and much more likely.
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I like that...but I think it works better if the NK is already dead because how are they going to deal with him if they lose their army at Winterfell.
More unlikely things that the fandom wanted have happened. Since that the shows seems to have liberties to do as it pleases, then I would be surprised if it doesn't go down.
Maybe anyone left will have to team up with The Golden Company and the remaining Lannister army for the final battle, an uneasy alliance.
Cersie might like the news that Winterfell has fallen but then realises the dead are going to be knocking on her door very soon, especially when she finds out they have a dragon as well.
Bronn would never fight Brienne. He will not kill any of the major characters.
I think fans would be pissed, but I would love if the expectation is completely thrown away and the two never fight. Or at least don't get to finish their fight. In full fun mode, I want to see Brienne fight The Mountain.
There's still some of the mountain in there I believe. Didn't somebody insult him and got a stern look? I assume he'll recognize Sandor.
It's definitely happening.
It's definitely happening.
Real question is what drives Cersei north? Gotta be opportunity right? Army in the north is devastated... she sees an opportunity to capitalize, so rushes north to kill off army, and then we get Cleganebowl and some gnarly shit.
Probably. And the episode title will be 'Clegane-bowl' because at this point memes are directing the script.