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So the new update in Animal Crossing New Horizon...stranger can leap off the pier which might makes scamming easier
- Thread starter Arthands
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I would much rather they revamp their horrible online system and give us better/more options and controls for terraforming (like beaches, maybe?!) than fix something that isn't really a problem such as this.
Fence in your important crap
Shake your money trees
Don't drop items on your island, place them
WGAF about your flowers that grow back in a day or two.
This is up there with people going on catalog sprees just to be able to fill out their list with no meaning or the people who rushed through, time traveled and otherwise went out of their way to break their game, got bored or frustrated with it (literally crying over their terraforming not going how they wanted!) and either stopped playing or reset their island.
Fence in your important crap
Shake your money trees
Don't drop items on your island, place them
WGAF about your flowers that grow back in a day or two.
This is up there with people going on catalog sprees just to be able to fill out their list with no meaning or the people who rushed through, time traveled and otherwise went out of their way to break their game, got bored or frustrated with it (literally crying over their terraforming not going how they wanted!) and either stopped playing or reset their island.
Not the intent of the game? They give you a way to do it either online through Dodo Codes or local play by just flinging the gates open.
No, you arrive at the pier and can jump off of it into the water then swim around. Spy games 101, I guess.
I have more fun making money by selling bugs and fish to Flick and CJ. Plus, I can get rich by buying bell vouchers with all the book miles I don't use any time I want.
Speaking of Bell Vouchers, I wish they updated the UI so I can specify how many of an item I would like to buy.
Speaking of Bell Vouchers, I wish they updated the UI so I can specify how many of an item I would like to buy.
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Disconnecting the game ruin people's experience. If there was a mechanism in place previously, why not restore it?
Its beyond 'fake economy' and certainly not a feature, but ok.
I wasn't talking about the differing opinions I was talking about telling people they don't "understand" the game because people don't agree with them:
But you want to remove a new feature in the game so that random people can come to your island, probably in return for some bells or nook miles tickets, and in some cases for real currency. There's a weird economy that's been set up in this game and I don't get involved in it so I don't care, but if you want them to patch something that isn't an actual issue because of this economy well I think that's stupid. However I can agree with some people that maybe they should add extra options for online if that will prevent "scamming", but don't remove an element of the game because of it.
I think they mean that the intent isn't to slap your code out there on social media/public domain. Your code is generally meant to share with people you know but don't necessarily have on your friends list.
I get your point but I don't see why it's wrong for them to want Nintendo to actually listen to people who play their games and add more QoL updates and better online features. It just kind of seems like you're saying people shouldn't criticize the game because Nintendo won't listen.
This is reinforces my point that you are far too concerned about how other people choose to play the game. Why are you traveling to these towns people set up just for turnip trade if you have no desire to do that and just wanna explore people's islands? I've had no issue not taking part in the game's "broader economy" while visiting islands. People will always min\max their games, let them have their fun and find people who want to explore islands like you do.
Nintendo needs to patch the game so that I can jump from a level 3 cliff into the water. Jumping off stuff is fun!
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I didn't say I want swimming feature removed though. Just modify it so that stranger cannot jump off the pier. Its in the OP.
You could but the problem here is they circumvent it by jumping off the airport pier itself. Which means they can get to your island without stepping off the airport pier.
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ive had people linger around on my island hogging the queue on turnip exchange when I'm selling villager craft DIYs. I wish there was a kick visiting visitor option. I don't expect there to be because Nintendo And the online functionality of this game is so archaic.
I thought if they 'leave quietly' they don't keep any items? Don't you have to leave through the airport in MP?
Exactly this. The literal WORST that can happen (aside for leaving stuff that cannot be ordered from catalog or turnips laying around, and having them stolen) is that you're denied what? 5% of the daily obsessive min-maxing profit? 10%? Waiting a couple of days for some flowers to regrow so you can craft a particular crown or wreath? Missing a tree drop or a fossil that's most likely going to be a dupe anyway? What's the point of hoarding DIYs if the idea is sharing them with whoever? Or keeping on doing turnips after you have paid off all your loans and have an excess 10 million without even trying? And half of those things can be easily prevented by doing daily "tasks" before letting anyone enter. And if you're so starved for space, you can just create alts and use their houses as extra storage.
Cue the 20-something-th quote of "you're managing to make a relaxing game stressful".
Yes, but Nintendo isn't very good with patches, they'd probably just remove it instead of fixing the actual issue. My main point is that there are so many issues with the game itself that have been there from the beginning that I would rather they focus on trying to patch them (although I don't see that happening either).
I never thought of that :o I'll have to keep that in mind when I start to run out of space!
I think what OP is missing is that for some people, small details - things like being able to jump off the pier are what they enjoy about animal crossing. If you are going to complain about people not supporting how you want to play it, that goes both ways.
I'm still not sure I see what 'bad' things people coming to your island can do, but I guess it would be cool if Nintendo made it 'safer'.
Personally, I don't understand what you are gaining by letting strangers you don't trust over to your island, if your entire interaction with them is going to be them collecting a recipe/selling turnips, so I can see how this might not be a priority for Nintendo.
I'm still not sure I see what 'bad' things people coming to your island can do, but I guess it would be cool if Nintendo made it 'safer'.
Personally, I don't understand what you are gaining by letting strangers you don't trust over to your island, if your entire interaction with them is going to be them collecting a recipe/selling turnips, so I can see how this might not be a priority for Nintendo.
Exactly my thoughts. As a regular every day player since launch, and a big player throughout the years, the lengths people go through just to protect something that is easily regrown and part of the entire point of the game is astonishing.
I had a single good turnip in early March and I'm still functioning off that money. I paid off all my debts, and barely get into the rest of the money I made.
The weird obsession to gate off your island, is part of why I also do not even play online anymore. People like to take the point and fun out of the game just to have some weird elitist mentality of "This is MINE and it's better than yours so DON'T TOUCH."
All they would have to do is just either not let people jump off the pier or make wetsuit use a "friend/best friend" thing like shovels and axes are.
If that wasn't the "intent of the game", then they wouldn't even let you invite people not on your Switch friends. The Dodo codes exist for a reason, and partially to post on social media to quickly reach out to people.
Imagine thinking wanting to protect your weeks of hard work is an "elitist mentality".
If I'm having friends on my island, I don't fence off shit. If it's randoms, I do fence off things.
I could understand it in previous games where indeed, anybody could actually fuck your stuff up beyond any repair, but in NH? Everything is designed to be painless, grief-free and stress-free save it for running out of storage and having to leave stuff laying around, therefore potentially stolen. And as I said, at that point just start making alts.
I'd argue that it's too late to complain now, and this isn't the sort of thing that'll get enough people on board for Nintendo to notice, anyway. Frankly, I would've preferred to see the launch window review scores hit hard due to the sheer number (not necessarily the severity) of usability issues. As someone who's new to the series, I have to say that it's a huge bummer to me that more seasoned Animal Crossing players just put up with some of the design flaws release after release. The game has tons of charm and content, but so many of the systems are flawed, and you're forced to engage with them so much that I don't understand how these problems go "unnoticed" by Nintendo.
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Not really, considering Orville lets you have the option to invite non-friends to your island too. If inviting stranger isn't part of the intent of the game, the game will have limit you to only invite friends in your Nintendo Switch friend list.
If Nintendo isn't going to patch this, that at least this thread will serve to highlight this new loophole arising from the new feature that allow people with malicious intend to cause mischief even easier now.
But it grows back? My hard work is still worth it because everything I've worked toward remains and grows back. I had a couple of hundred people on my island when my turnip prices spiked. I lost absolutely nothing. I had a couple of flowers that had to be regrown, but that does not in any way effect how my game is played or my island.
I simply continued with my daily tasks and work, and the flowers regrew....which is the point of Animal Crossing. We're supposed to keep working and chipping away at it every day. The work is never supposed to "end"
The way that other people want to play the game is directly impacting the way that I want to play the game.
I'm traveling to towns because exploring is fun and there is no reliable way to visit other towns other than through trading exchanges. So the only way for me to play the game the way I would like to play it, barring a rare visit to an actual friend's town, is by using tools designed for commerce and hoping that someone involved will be nice/patient enough to do more than just the transaction, which in my experience happens maybe 1 out of every 5 times now. People were more lenient in the first couple weeks but now it seems like everything is about money, and determining which players are open to a more relaxed visit or not is harder than it should be.
The work isn't supposed to be set back because some jackass wants to trample all of your flowers.
But it's not set back. The flowers are still there and just re-grow, with absolutely zero intervention or work on the players end. This entire complaint is complaining just for the sake of complaining. Nintendo already got rid of flowers dying entirely, and grass degrading. It can't be made any easier besides just eliminating online all together.
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Nobody's hoarding DIY for no reason. I leave them around because my friends ain't free to visit my island to take them, so I keep for them in the meantime. Not every AC players are experienced players. There are always new players everyday who doesn't have duplicates and is still trying to earn some bells.
All those unfeasible suggestions ranging from fencing the whole island to creating alts can be easily resolve if Nintendo disallow people from jumping off the airport pier.
I literally told you how it could be made easier: Just prevent jumping off the pier or make wetsuits a friend/best friend thing like the shovel and axe.
And you still have to wait days for your flowers to regrow. For some that's the difference between finally getting to 5 stars and not getting to 5 stars.
In next update : The Animal Police is added to your island. If someone does a mischief they fine you and they get transported back to their island.
I already wish we could move and add objects on other people's island or our own while other people are there.
Having the option to allow certain actions or a side way to trade, why not. But plain removing the swimming with other people, that is just a negative update.
I already wish we could move and add objects on other people's island or our own while other people are there.
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If you are leaving recipes on the ground, then you didn't want them anyway. It's a non-issue.
Items cannot be moved by you or your visitors. It's not an issue.
If you have bells laid out around your island. What are you doing?! There is a bank specifically for that, our you can just carry your bells around.
Your turnips, you can put in your house, or a fenced out area. It's literally that easy.
This isn't really a problem at all.
If you're at the point where you must leave stuff laying around in the open because you're so out of space that you can't leave it anywhere else, I'll say that it's a "you" problem, and the rest of the playerbase that enjoys using public dodos to visit other people just because, explore, take ideas and generally have some fun (yes, that includes swimming) shouldn't be punished or have features taken away from us because of it.
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I didn't say to remove the swimming feature. II only say to patch it so jumping off the airport pier is disallowed. Its in the OP.
Ohhhh, the airport pier. I thought they meant the actual beach pier haha.
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No, not really. There are a lot of players who have to leave their items around on the island.
And again, I didn't say to remove the feature. I am saying to patch it so jumping off the airport pier is disallow. Learn to read the OP.
Just put all your shit in your house and fence the house or the door. Or just stand in front of the door so people can't get in. If someone wrecking your flowers and "stealing" your fruit is a big issue then don't invite randos over? The game already feels so limited if you aren't best friends with the person.
The problem is the developers largely solved the risk with the 'best friend' system, so strangers can essentially not cause any permanent harm to your island. But for some reason a lot of people are still treating strangers like foreign invaders there to pillage and loot.
Edit: I'll add that in both New Leaf and NH I've had tons and tons of strangers over, no fencing, and not ONE visitor has been interested in ruining my stuff or stealing anything. I really wonder how common this issue of scamming is or if people are just paranoid and/or projecting?
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13 yr old me was big on the villager trade in new leaf but like...new horizons' economy is so different and ugly. Anyways remember in wild world when ppl would brick towns completely ❤️
Why would they let strangers jump off normal piers but not airport piers? Just for a small, niche group of people who feel like min-maxing Animal Crossing???
They should let you put more things (like DIYs and turnips) in storage sure, regardless of this "exploit". I'm pretty sure that would solve the problem without axing game features.
They should let you put more things (like DIYs and turnips) in storage sure, regardless of this "exploit". I'm pretty sure that would solve the problem without axing game features.
What weeks of hard work? Non-best friends literally can't do anything but pick up dropped items, or trample flowers/shake fruit trees that grow back in a couple of days regardless.
Hsa OP addressed the fact that this is literally only a problem for players trying to abuse an exploit in the in-game economy?
I'm in the camp of just shut the game off/disconnect from WiFi to screw over anyone who tries anything funny, assuming you open it up to randos by tweeting a code or whatever.
I had one instance where I had a nearly 600 bell day for turnips, so I posted a turnip exchange link in a slack I frequent, and some people shared the link so on and so forth. I was idle but still paying attention to what was going on, and one random person popped in and went to sell all his turnips and on the way out stole all the money bags that were in front of me people were leaving as tips. I reached for my controller and hit sleep mode on it disconnecting this guy, I asked everyone who I gave the link to and nobody fessed up to knowing who the person was. I think one person I had to let in again too so they could re-sell but that was it. Annoying, but nothing earth shattering.
Just don't let people in you can't trust if you have anything out that you don't want taken, or be ready to deal with it if something does happen.
I had one instance where I had a nearly 600 bell day for turnips, so I posted a turnip exchange link in a slack I frequent, and some people shared the link so on and so forth. I was idle but still paying attention to what was going on, and one random person popped in and went to sell all his turnips and on the way out stole all the money bags that were in front of me people were leaving as tips. I reached for my controller and hit sleep mode on it disconnecting this guy, I asked everyone who I gave the link to and nobody fessed up to knowing who the person was. I think one person I had to let in again too so they could re-sell but that was it. Annoying, but nothing earth shattering.
Just don't let people in you can't trust if you have anything out that you don't want taken, or be ready to deal with it if something does happen.
I wasn't aware using the stalk market for what it's meant for is "abusing an exploit".
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There is nothing to address considering that It is literally a problem for all players.
the airport pier is the only way to circumvent the fencing to get onto the island.
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Using 3rd party websites to rake in millions and millions of bells faster than anyone had ever intended is certainly an exploit. Not sure how you cry ignorance on this one.