The only other younger here I could really see getting in from the new generation is Miles.
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So they seriously ran the Avengers trailer with zero PoC?
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Why can't all of The Avengers be POC? If they aren't using the likeliness of any of the movie people, why the heck bother with creating a bunch of boring white people. It wouldn't hurt for a non-white person to be able to see themselves in a big superhero game protagonist.
Talk for yourself. I never wanted the real Fury to go (And I wasn't alone when that happened) just because they adapted Samuel L Jackson Ultimate Version in the movies and then they created that terrible Nick Fury Jr in one of the lazy things I ever saw on comics.
I liked the Ultimate version and all, but I would prefer if they just revelead that Fury was always black instead of making the 616 version to just disappear, while putting Jr there just because of cross media, which Marvel loves to do. It was shitty how they did it.
Seriously, what the hell was that? There was like 3 trailers? A voice actors video? 20 minute presentation And we still dont know anything about the game except that theyre all white(and green)
E3 2019 in a nutshell
Because then it wouldn't sell or be received well. An unfortunate truth. Also, there is no way that you should fill it with the lacking poc characters that Marvel has. Hell, even DC has a better standard.
Not to mention that Fury Max: My War Gone By was one of the best comics Marvel published in the last decade.
They never will do that. At best they'll change the identity of a hero, but not to change in such way. That never happened even in the comics.
I think this is a Marvel issue in general, more than something on Square and Crystal Dynamics. Would be a controversy in it of itself to just change a character like Black Widow, or Tony Stark, for example, to a person of color.
Beyond that, someone like T'Challa or Kamala will surely be in the game, but it would have been nice to actually have them front and center.
At the end of the day, I get why they went with what they did. It was for the sake of simplicity for marketing, and introducing people to characters they know. I'm not saying it's a good decision, I'm just more understanding their choice.
Beyond that, someone like T'Challa or Kamala will surely be in the game, but it would have been nice to actually have them front and center.
At the end of the day, I get why they went with what they did. It was for the sake of simplicity for marketing, and introducing people to characters they know. I'm not saying it's a good decision, I'm just more understanding their choice.
Do you mean why don't they change Tony Stark's ethinicity for example or do you mean why dont they use a different line-up with more PoC?
I was going to say this E3 are a bit more black characters with games such as Deathloop, Watchdogs Legions or Cyberpunk 2077. But this is shocking.
I agree with you especially since this is the first reveal but them revealing Ant-Man/Hank at the end sorta stings.
Like ya'll really couldn't have used that opportunity to tease Nick Fury, Black Panther, or Kamala Khan instead? Jeez.
I was thinking the former? Ethnicity, sexual orientation and gender up for grabs. Very least they could do is make gender and ethnicity customizable on all the heros.
It's not really unheard of in comics. The game is just another alternate universe, and plenty of alternate universes have messed with things like race and sexual preference. The game is playing it safe by staying so close to the movie, and that is a little bit of a disappointment.
Really hope Marvel steps in and sorts it, completely unacceptable to have a white only superhero club 2019.
They don't even have the actors likeness to worry about, so just have black cap!
And they better use a black voice actor too, square enix don't have a great track record for that.
They don't even have the actors likeness to worry about, so just have black cap!
And they better use a black voice actor too, square enix don't have a great track record for that.
You forgot to mention the white woman is also generic and it all takes place in San Francisco the most generic city in America and they fight on the Golden Gate Bridge the most generic bridge I can think of. Truly a generic game it seems.
My thoughts exactly, like a bad anime in which you can only differentiate characters by their hair.
Do y'all even care about capeshit? Like it or not, the phase 1 heroes are the face of Marvel right now for the vast majority of people and they have a lot of history outside of the MCU. Reducing them to "boring white NPCs" speaks volumes
FWIW I don't care for this roster either but let's not pretend they aren't huge figures in Marvel in their own right
Also holy shit if you're going to use MCU costumes at least get the actors for the character models, I'm getting huge whiplash
FWIW I don't care for this roster either but let's not pretend they aren't huge figures in Marvel in their own right
Also holy shit if you're going to use MCU costumes at least get the actors for the character models, I'm getting huge whiplash
At first thought, Im dissapointed with no Falcon. Love Sam.
At second though, a big reason I love Sam is because of Mackie and I assume he won't be part of the game, so eh not sure what to think.
Also, Cap looks weird. His design feels off. Maybe Im too used to Evans.
At second though, a big reason I love Sam is because of Mackie and I assume he won't be part of the game, so eh not sure what to think.
Also, Cap looks weird. His design feels off. Maybe Im too used to Evans.
I mean that wasn't even a racial thing. You could have had 5 white people who looked way better than what they showed us.
that's the thing, it's also not really the movie lineup, because hawkeye is missing, and they showed hank pym, while the movies used Scott Lang.
So essentially they could have used whatever lineup they wanted.
Would have been interesting to change the starting lineup tbh, but even if you absolutely must have Captain America and Iron Man in there, you don't really need to have them be Steve Rodgers or Tony Stark, there have been multiple non-white characters that have take up those mantles over the years. It would be easy.
So, white people are boring, poc arent. Got it, I'll be sure to tell all the white people I know how boring they are. Thanks!
Did you not read the hot take I responded to? The word generic has clearly lost all it's meaning on era.
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The worst thing of this thread is to see someone is acting as white men is the enemy.
It's very worrying.
It's not more about ideology or thinking or culture. It's a label against other labels. It's racism fought with the same racism.
This is a reflection of how Era is seen outside. Hint: it's not a good reflection.
Are we even sure you play as the heroes, I'm still getting vibes of "they only show up in cutscenes" and you play your own, customizable character ala DC Universe Online.
Maybe I missed something.
Surely Marvel are reviewing character designs and approving directions etc?
Iron Man had established Fury and Rhodes from the first movie...
Iron Man had established Fury and Rhodes from the first movie...
Spidey is Sony, probably won't appear in this, maybe in a PS4 exclusive mission.
They're right though. Full-on white ensembles are as old as Hollywood and gaming themselves. A group of exclusively PoC - which can be a large number of races and ethnicities - would be refreshing as hell. I am a white dude by the way, I just won't pretend minorities get the same level of representation as us white folk to act butthurt over demands like these. I'd be fine if white people vanished from the media for at least a decade. Things still wouldn't be even.
White men that like to pretend PoC don't exist are indeed the enemy. They're ignorant or racist at worst.
Since this game will be heavy on costume cosmetics, I'd say the looks are very subject to change before release.
Would be like no effort at all, so if the internet kicks up enough stink I bet they will change the defaults, and make these alternates.
Everyone here should be way way more concerned with how it plays and what you do. Which hopefully they will alleviate tomorrow.
Would be like no effort at all, so if the internet kicks up enough stink I bet they will change the defaults, and make these alternates.
Everyone here should be way way more concerned with how it plays and what you do. Which hopefully they will alleviate tomorrow.
On this, hopefully the rumors of Kamala playable from the start are true, and at launch there is Panther and hopefully at least a few others.
And yeah bad image to show first trailer with this current set only.
But then you would have to waste a whole lot of time to explain how these black people became those characters or else you would create a whole lot of cognitive dissonance.
They could be voiced by a white woman too for all we know.
Endgame was a different case considering the decimation/snap. But they had War Machine, Okoye and Wong on the posters and marketing if that counts for anything.
Black Panther, like many other characters in the MCU isn't officially an Avenger. I reckon the way they see it is if you fight with the Avengers, you're an Avengers. Like Scarlett Witch in Age of Ultron when she was panicking and Hawkeye was like "if you step out that door you're an Avenger". Then she became one.
Spidey is not Sony let's get this clear he can appear any game made my any of these developers making Avengers games.
They're just not allowed to make solo Spider-Man games.
They absolutely have to be troll posts/bait mocking the community. Black Panther not being there (yet) was nowhere near my mind while I was watching that. I both love and hate this place sometimes.
Hell.. Some people think Ms. Marvel was the girl talking. We don't know yet. We don't know anything. We have hardly seen the game but this is what bothers Reset?
It almost offends me that they think we are going to feel like shit if a POC isn't on literally everything we touch. I don't mind playing a white guy sometimes. I really don't...
Edit: There is zero chance that there won't be more representation when the new mcu phase starts. We just need to wait
Square Enix is not an American company. They probably have no idea why there would be backlash.
There is absolutely no reason to not include PoC. If there is more than one person on screen they should have different backgrounds. And we should never have a group of just white people. There should be PoC on "everything we touch". And we shouldn't have to wait. There should be PoC from the jump.
There is absolutely no reason to not include PoC. If there is more than one person on screen they should have different backgrounds. And we should never have a group of just white people. There should be PoC on "everything we touch". And we shouldn't have to wait. There should be PoC from the jump.
Nope. OG Avengers here are Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Black Widow and Hulk. No Hawkeye. Also Ant Man is Hank Pym (and he's around the same age as Tony, unlike in the MCU)
Also apparently Miss Marvel is one of the most important character of the game, being the one who reform the Avengers. She's not in the MCU.
No, Sony only has the rights for the films.
Spider-Man PS4 is exclusive because Sony funded it, just like MUA3 is exclusive to Switch because Nintendo funded it.
Like Khanimus just said, Spidey is in the Switch exclusive game.