• Sidebar and Width settings will now no longer reset after 4 hours of inactivity! We have implemented a new system that will remember these preferences on each browser, for both members and guests. This allows you to choose different settings on different devices if you so desire.

So what’s a next-gen game look like?

Oct 26, 2017
4,485
#52
I think TLOU2 is the most next gen game we have seen footage right now, so I think it is a good point of reference for what we could expect!

It just looks absurd. The animations are simply a generation ahead of anything else in the industry.
 

J75

Member
Sep 29, 2018
435
#54
I wonder how the more casual audience will react if next gen isn't the huge leap they are accustomed to.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,151
Belgium
#55
I wonder how the more casual audience will react if next gen isn't the huge leap they are accustomed to.
The difference will still be big enough. Like, even if the next gen consoles are a mere 10 TF, that'll still be more than 5 times the difference from base consoles.
 

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,867
#61
Naah, it looks like a super refined Uncharted 4 (which is). I was watching videos from Uncharted 4 and I had forgotten how technically awesome that game is. TLOU2 does not seem that advanced if you think it will be released 3 or 4 years after U4 (even more with their new engine/new animation engine).
The animation in TLOU2 is a gigantic leap from Uncharted 4.
 
Nov 3, 2017
2,087
#63
currently all thats known is that its releasing for PS4 (Im willing to bet its done by the time PS5 is out tho), made by Cygames and currently called (publicly) Project Awakening.
Its about as relevant as a random offline cg trailer done by blur
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2017
273
Seattle
#64
I'll know the Next Generation is here when doors don't open in both directions in 99% of the games because the door frame and hinges are detailed enough that it would look stupid if they did. This is one of my pet peeves about games that otherwise strive for a pretty high level of realism.
 
May 9, 2018
4,315
#66
looking at the environment I feel like we could do better now already without the real time raytracing.

Doubt we will get that on Console tho atleast not anytime before the PS5 Pro type upgrades of next gen and even then it will take a great hit on the hardware like it does now on PC.
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,251
Paris
#68
Something i was thinking about is ... We say games like TLOU2 or Cyberpunk should show the starting point for next gen but..
With teh technological stagnation, i fear budgets in games are going to have more impact than tech. What i mean is, concretly, TLOU2 has (remember that guy analyzing the trailer ?) crazy animation transitions that basically took forever to do and tons of people, Cyberpunk surely has a giant team. Those games look SUPER good, cgi level at times.
With the kind of gpu upgrade we'll have, i don't think a smaller budget game will be able to look better, just with more powerful tech. It'll need the same type of budget to. So not a lot of games like that will look better before the big AAA projects hits. I would think.
 
May 9, 2018
4,315
#69
Its about as relevant as a random offline cg trailer done by blur
its as relevant as using current gen titles, Engine demos and unreleased games that have most likely been canceled.

but you dont hear me complaining about that, everyone is just having a discussion of what could be. No one knows what the games will look like, we dont even know how the boxes will look like lol.
 
May 9, 2018
4,315
#71
Something i was thinking about is ... We say games like TLOU2 or Cyberpunk should show the starting point for next gen but..
With teh technological stagnation, i fear budgets in games are going to have more impact than tech. What i mean is, concretly, TLOU2 has (remember that guy analyzing the trailer ?) crazy animation transitions that basically took forever to do and tons of people, Cyberpunk surely has a giant team. Those games look SUPER good, cgi level at times.
With the kind of gpu upgrade we'll have, i don't think a smaller budget game will be able to look better, just with more powerful tech. It'll need the same type of budget to. So not a lot of games like that will look better before the big AAA projects hits. I would think.
oh we wont see what next gen is fully capable until we are having this same thread about the PS6 and Xbox 5 generation, by then multiple AAA titles would have released and gotten the most out of the machines like we are now with games like Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2.

At the start of the gen tho we did see a noticeable bump tho to smaller titles but I agree to really see the new machines shine budget will continue to rise like it is now and we will have to wait for the big pubs to release the new games.
(Launch games are great and all but I mean compare the best looking launch games to the best looking end of life cycle games and its pretty incredible just how much devs can get out of a machine)
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,929
Dallas, TX
#73
That last shot feels most indicative to me. There’s only so much more improvement that can be made in geometry and lighting and shaders, but the handicapped CPUs in the current consoles means there’s probably a good amount of room for growth in things like crowds, AI, and animation.
 
Feb 10, 2018
6,185
#75
Once again people are underestimating a new gen.
I remember people saying we won't get star wars 1313 graphics this gen.

However the leap will be smaller because of diminishing returns.

But things like this in VR should be possible next gen.

Skip to 1hr43m

Epics tech demos have been a pretty good indicator in the past, so I think there recent graphics demos are a good bet.
One thing that is interesting is that UE4 is able to produce far better visuals then what is possible on x1/ps4, then again I suppose UE3 did aswell.

For me, graphics are good enough on the mid gens.
I hope devs focus more on world interactivity, world + Npc realism. We have a long way to go, but these things will make a game just as immersive as more realistic graphics.
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2017
1,602
Germany
#77
We don’t even know if this actually runs like this on a single 2080Ti, Nvidia hasn’t released the demo.

Anyone expecting graphics like this out of next gen consoles is gonna be crushed.
looking at the environment I feel like we could do better now already without the real time raytracing.

Doubt we will get that on Console tho atleast not anytime before the PS5 Pro type upgrades of next gen and even then it will take a great hit on the hardware like it does now on PC.
This could only run on next gen PC hardware obviously. Console graphics will look like TLOU2 hopefully.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,423
#79
I remember folks saying the leap from last gen to this one wouldn't be that noticeable and people claiming games looked last gen early on. It's going to be better.

My eye is on Gears 5 since the XB1X is the lead platform. I'd imagine next gen will be a step above that.
 
Oct 8, 2018
416
Sydney
#82
Gotta remember that better graphics cost more money and time. Plus diminishing returns. Plus Moores law is starting to die.

You might see a somewhat noticeable jump on AAA games, but otherwise all we are gonna see is 4K and more visual effects that don't cost much to implement.

I was in my late teens when PS4 came out, and I was pretty unimpressed with the jump from PS3 to PS4. Each jump is less impressive than the last.
 
Oct 27, 2017
801
Texas
#83
We do this "next gen cant impress" song and dance before the start of every gen until we see those next gen showpieces and everyone gets excited all over again.

PS4 and XB1 were already outdated back in 2013, there's no reason to think new consoles launching in 2020 won't be exponentially more powerful.
 
May 9, 2018
4,315
#84
Once again people are underestimating a new gen.
I remember people saying we won't get star wars 1313 graphics this gen.

However the leap will be smaller because of diminishing returns.

But things like this in VR should be possible next gen.

Skip to 1hr43m

Epics tech demos have been a pretty good indicator in the past, so I think there recent graphics demos are a good bet.
One thing that is interesting is that UE4 is able to produce far better visuals then what is possible on x1/ps4, then again I suppose UE3 did aswell.

For me, graphics are good enough on the mid gens.
I hope devs focus more on world interactivity, world + Npc realism. We have a long way to go, but these things will make a game just as immersive as more realistic graphics.
Im actually most excited for the future of VR. not because I think the next console and PC advancements will be boring but VR is something different, that shit is fucking insane when it can remove you from the world.

Oculus Quest being aimed at Games AND being a wireless all in one device is nuts (with a higher resolution display and tracking all done obviously on the same headset) and I kinda wanna grab one for myself even tho I have a Rift but man...when Rift 2 gets announced (maybe even this year at OC6) I will be so fucking ready. Ill upgrade my PC for that shit without hesitation.


if my excitment to see the next Xbox and Playstation is at a 10 then VR has me at like a fucking 11 lol
 
May 9, 2018
4,315
#85
We do this "next gen cant impress" song and dance before the start of every gen until we see those next gen showpieces and everyone gets excited all over again.

PS4 and XB1 were already outdated back in 2013, there's no reason to think new consoles launching in 2020 won't be exponentially more powerful.
.


people say it every time and every time those same people get that pre order locked in for day one just as excited for everyone else.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,804
#87
It will look like cyberpunk but cyberpunk won't look like that. Cd project will end up downgrading the shit out of it just like they did with witcher 3 when they changed the entire renderer.

Current gen consoles just can't run the game at that level of fidelity and they won't just make it a next gen only game.
 
Feb 10, 2018
6,185
#88
Im actually most excited for the future of VR. not because I think the next console and PC advancements will be boring but VR is something different, that shit is fucking insane when it can remove you from the world.

Oculus Quest being aimed at Games AND being a wireless all in one device is nuts (with a higher resolution display and tracking all done obviously on the same headset) and I kinda wanna grab one for myself even tho I have a Rift but man...when Rift 2 gets announced (maybe even this year at OC6) I will be so fucking ready. Ill upgrade my PC for that shit without hesitation.


if my excitment to see the next Xbox and Playstation is at a 10 then VR has me at like a fucking 11 lol
Yeah I'm more excited for stand alone headsets. My hope is that real world scanning and environment mapping will solve the sickness issue.
I think VR will be prime around 2028 when the tech is good enough and price is low enough so tens of millions will buy.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,456
#89
We do this "next gen cant impress" song and dance before the start of every gen until we see those next gen showpieces and everyone gets excited all over again.

PS4 and XB1 were already outdated back in 2013, there's no reason to think new consoles launching in 2020 won't be exponentially more powerful.
There's no reason to think the next gen consoles won't themselves be 'outdated' as well when they come out.

We always imagine the highest possibilities for new console hardware, but factually they're limited by having to keep effective costs so the companies can actually sell the damn things at a respectable price.

Looking at what high end PCs can currently accomplish is meaningless in reference to new consoles.
 
Oct 28, 2017
3,584
2001
#90
I wish I could be as wowed by next gen graphics as the day I first saw Dreamcast and PS2 games in magazines.

Jump from PS1 to PS2 was mind blowing.

Hope to see something soon from next gen. Getting excited.
 
Oct 29, 2017
379
#91
That's 2 "one-and-done" threads I've clicked on in a row. Ray Tracing is next gen, wait for Metro Exodus and Remake 2 (just around the corner) for some some single player games but you can check out BFV which imo is proper next gen atm.
 
Jul 28, 2018
112
#92
We already saw them kinda, Star Citizen, probably Cyberpunk 2077, Harry Potter, i also question Ghost of Tsushima being a PS4 title with that draw distance & foliage.
PS5's GPU will be a small step up from what Xbox One X has.
Yeah Tlou 2 as well I think, it’s likely why Sony is not at E3
You can’t show PS5 games before you announce the hardware
 
May 14, 2018
148
#95
OP, you should google Project Awakening. I'm pretty sure that's a next gen game.



Best looking beard, far better than Kratos' foil beard.
Based on the graphics in the trailer from E3, I think this is from a pre-rendered cutscene. The actual trailer doesn’t look anything near this.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,570
Tokyo
#97
We do this "next gen cant impress" song and dance before the start of every gen until we see those next gen showpieces and everyone gets excited all over again.

PS4 and XB1 were already outdated back in 2013, there's no reason to think new consoles launching in 2020 won't be exponentially more powerful.
They will be more powerful than what is on the consoles on the market now, but will be less powerful than GPUs currently on the market. That's how it always works.
 
Jul 10, 2018
312
#99
It will look like cyberpunk but cyberpunk won't look like that. Cd project will end up downgrading the shit out of it just like they did with witcher 3 when they changed the entire renderer.

Current gen consoles just can't run the game at that level of fidelity and they won't just make it a next gen only game.
I think it will look like that, maybe even better, on PC atleast. The gameplay shows alot of streaming and shadow glitches which makes it look like a real build. The engine has been upgraded to RED Engine 4 and they've reworked everything from animations, lighting and NPC generation to name a few. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.