The absolute accuracy of this
50 million planets with their own cultures, news, histories, and events within their own sphere. Imagine your social media and news channels somehow covering the events to encompass a universe of that many planets?
People on earth can't even be bothered to keep up with whats going on in their own cities.
People know the Jedi existed. They just thought they were frauds, "The Deep State" who orchestrated a "coup" against your favorite "Presi- er, Supreme Chancellor".
And few ever actually saw them, there were so few of them that by the time tensions had reached a breaking point and war was inevitable they literally were "Ok so....we aren't an army. 👀 "
People need to rewatch that scene in The Mandalorian. It's not portrayed as a "wait WTF?!" moment from the perspective of the elder. Only the Mando, who's not only a part of a different group than the one seen in Rebels, but also grew up in the jedi propaganda era.Even if they don't know a lot about the involvement in the Clone Wars, the most important treasure of Mandalore is a lightsaber that belonged to a Jedi. Did they forget that too the ten years between Rebels and The Mandalorian? The lightsaber was also in the posession of member of Death Watch for a long time.
Mando grew up during the propaganda era of the Empire, but his saviors (Death Watch) should know better and educate him.And few ever actually saw them, there were so few of them that by the time tensions had reached a breaking point and war was inevitable they literally were "Ok so....we aren't an army. 👀 "
People need to rewatch that scene in The Mandalorian. It's not portrayed as a "wait WTF?!" moment from the perspective of the elder. Only the Mando, who's not only a part of a different group than the one seen in Rebels, but also grew up in the jedi propaganda era.
About an organization of people who're mostly dead and buried?Mando grew up during the propaganda era of the Empire, but his saviors (Death Watch) should know better and educate him.
Vader and Palpatine were public about being sith, ESPECIALLY not Palpatine. The amount of people who knew the truth about him could be counted on one hand.They're aware of the Empire, but not aware of Vader or Palpatine? How in the fuck?
They weren't when they saved Mando.About an organization of people who're mostly dead and buried?
Lucas's conception of The Clone Wars actually makes this whole thing worse.
In ANH when Luke talks about his father and Obi-Wan fighting in the Clone Wars it's easy to imagine it was a conventional war fought by various armies with people from all over the galaxy participating.
Then when the prequels come along we see that 98% of the participants were clones of a single person, Jedi, and droids. Soooo if Jedi are a myth and/or unknown during the time of the OT who do people think fought in the Clone Wars?
Lucas's conception of The Clone Wars actually makes this whole thing worse.
In ANH when Luke talks about his father and Obi-Wan fighting in the Clone Wars it's easy to imagine it was a conventional war fought by various armies with people from all over the galaxy participating.
Then when the prequels come along we see that 98% of the participants were clones of a single person, Jedi, and droids. Soooo if Jedi are a myth and/or unknown during the time of the OT who do people think fought in the Clone Wars?
What purpose would there be in explaining to a child that the jedi exist while training him to become a bounty hunter? You wanna get hung up on things, it's best to pick your battles, THIS is way more egregious:
I'm not going to compare an entire galaxy's peacekeeping force to people not knowing who their mayor is or whatever. I'm not doing it.
That makes it better, not worse.
With most of the combatants being droids and clone troopers (with accelerated aging), it drastically reduces the number of people who would be in regular contact with Jedi. And being that the Jedi acted mainly as frontline generals because of their scarcity, most people aren't going to be aware of their deeds.
Anyway, not everyone forgot the Jedi, just the general populace. Ex-republic leadership (senators, older military like Tarkin, etc.) were very cognizant of them, and in the case of the Resistance, in regular contact with remnants (Obi-Wan, as referenced by Mon Mothma in Rogue One; Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra from Rebels). It was just necessarily secretive, on a need-to-know basis.
Learning him the general history and culture of Mandalorians perhaps, or tell him about their strongest opponents yet, because they're warriors?What purpose would there be in explaining to a child that the jedi exist while training him to become a bounty hunter?
About that......I'm not going to compare an entire galaxy's peacekeeping force
Again, for every clone battalion you had one or two jedi leading them.Except that The Clone Wars are a thing that people still remember during the OT. It was akin to saying someone fought in WW2 if you go back to the time when the OT was released. But if people remember the Clone Wars then they would remember that almost no one who wasn''t a clone or a Jedi actually fought in them. And those cases where they did fight they were fighting alongside the Jedi and saw them in action and could see their abilities.
The jedi themselves weren't even prominently advertising themselves as active participants in the war.It doesn't make sense the Empire Propaganda somehow made people forget the existence of Jedi but people still remember the major galaxy spanning war where the Jedi were the military leaders on one of the sides.
About that......
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Again, for every clone battalion you had one or two jedi leading them.
This is literally what happened.Nevermind that it was vilification of the Jedi that Palpatine used to seize control. A more consistent world building approach wouldn't have people forgetting the Jedi at the time of the OT. It would be people remembering and hating them. Imperial Propaganda should have made the word "Jedi" equivalent to Nazi at that stage.
People rarely ever saw the actual people in charge, they just heard stories as life got worse and worse for them as a result of a war.Right the people actually in charge. Generals aren't super obscure. And unlike modern day Generals, Jedi are on the battlefield leading the charge in the thick of tings.
This depends entirely on character perspective. Not every character in a narrative has the same knowledge. The story of the jedi when revealed to the audience is revealed to Luke, aka, a sheltered farm boy whose uncle specifically did everything he could to prevent Luke from learning about his heritage.I know that. That's why I say it's inconsistent. Sometimes it's The Empire vilified the Jedi and made them enemy number one. Other times it's they erased them from peoples memories entirely.
They're aware of the Empire, but not aware of Vader or Palpatine? How in the fuck?
It's like the scene near the beginning of the first Star Wars film where the dude makes fun of the force right to Vader's face. Just a poorly written scene that doesn't make any sense. Is it his first day on the job or something?
Except that The Clone Wars are a thing that people still remember during the OT. It was akin to saying someone fought in WW2 if you go back to the time when the OT was released. But if people remember the Clone Wars then they would remember that almost no one who wasn''t a clone or a Jedi actually fought in them.
It doesn't make sense the Empire Propaganda somehow made people forget the existence of Jedi but people still remember the major galaxy spanning war where the Jedi were the military leaders on one of the sides.
Exactly, for regular people convos went more like this.Laypeople for whom the Clone Wars were a distant economic clash between Republic and Separatists, however, do not. Especially not if they're raised within a fascist regime that actively suppresses mention of the Jedi, kidnaps force sensitives, and represses/enslaves dissidents. Yeah, they might have heard of "the Clone Wars," but it doesn't mean they know much beyond that—it's just some old conflict that teens like Luke in backwater places might romanticize in their boredom.
Patrick Klepek brought this up in a recent Waypoint podcast that the Star Wars society have invented light speed travel but hilariously haven't invented some form of mass media/communication.
That whole thing is down to the fact SWs is more fantasy and not sci-fi. It's not really planets and spaceships but villages/towns and horse carriages, bunch of insular places spread throughout the the galaxy aka the kingdom. People live in an almost medieval way where they are mostly ignorant to the goings on of the upper classes, just kids hearing stories of knights, sorcerers, and princesses but for the most part common people just try to get through the day and don't concern themselves with too much.Patrick Klepek brought this up in a recent Waypoint podcast that the Star Wars society have invented light speed travel but hilariously haven't invented some form of mass media/communication.
Thank youStar Wars is dumb and poorly written, is the answer you're looking for.
You realize that this series resonates with all ages right? People don't just suddenly reach an age where they have an epiphany and decide "Yea SW is bad and so is all media that is made with younger audiences in mind."Thank you
The amount of discussion about this merchandise factory of a series is just ridiculous.
Maybe the reason you'll stop liking theses movies as time goes on, is cause you're older! And this shits meant for preteens and teenagers