So when will Democrats start fighting dirty?

[NTGYK]

Seems like a lot of people want Democrats to fight at the same level that Republicans do, but it doesn't seem to be happening. How should Democrats fight dirty? What should they be doing?

Maybe Rod Blogojevich is the dirty Democrat they need to save the day.

Just kidding, he's a piece of shit.

 

[Semfry]

I mean they've shown they're perfectly capable of fighting dirty

...With each other

 

[Rag]

I think we need to fight cleaner and fight harder for voting rights. We don't need to do corrupt things to gain power. We need DC and Puerto Rico as states, and we need organizations like Fair Fight to keep doing what they can to stop voter suppression. When people vote, we win. Also, we need to nuke the Electoral College from orbit. Trump needs to be the last President to win the election without winning the popular vote.

 

[Tracygill]

Did you miss the Iowa caucus?

 

[JaseC64]

I think we need to fight cleaner and fight harder for voting rights. We don't need to do corrupt things to gain power. We need DC and Puerto Rico as states, and we need organizations like Fair Fight to keep doing what they can to stop voter suppression. When people vote, we win. Also, we need to nuke the Electoral College from orbit. Trump needs to be the last President to win the election without winning the popular vote.

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Before anything like this happens, Dems need to play dirty to win. Right now shit is so stacked against them. Playing by the book will have Trump win easily.

 

[MetalMagus]

Like, are you talking mud slinging and harsh words or like... voter suppression and violating the rule of law level of playing dirty?

Because if its the latter, I mean, if your moral throughline is essentially "the ends justify the means" and you view attaining power as an absolute necessity...

then you're a conservative.

That's like asking when's my cat going to start taking up a vegan diet.

 

[Rag]

Before anything like this happens, Dems need to play dirty to win. Right now shit is so stacked against them. Playing by the book will have Trump win easily.

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Like MetalMagus said, it really depends on what you mean by fighting dirty. If we win by suppressing a single vote, or gerrymandering, then I don't personally want to be on board with that. We can't sink to their level, because when we do, that bullshit 'both sides' narrative becomes true. The GOP is in the middle of a long drawn out death spiral, and obviously we need to beat them before we lose the Supreme Court for a generation, and before we destroy the planet, but I want to do it democratically.

 

[El Bombastico]

They're okay with fighting dirty during the primaries. But suddenly when the actual election comes, its all about "civility" and "coming together."

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Dem electorate and the media don't seem to allow for the type of antics the GOP regularly pull. Dems are held to a higher standard.

 

[ChrisR]

2024 when Trump tries to get a 3rd term somehow.

 

[Speely]

If operating with some semblance of fairness is not enough to appeal to the electorate, then maybe the electorate does not deserve fairness. US citizens need to be less docile. Yes, the GOP is horrible, but they get away with their shit because we let them.

Dems getting worse is not a good answer.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Exceedingly enthusiastic open source Oppo reasearch?

Hiring data analysis and psycho/sociological expertise to create and refine tactical strategies on the fly?

Endless punching at weakspots in their competancy, ethics, morals, and failures thus saturating the field so they cant?

Making the fight about the dumb, lying, bigoted, failing, demented mobster Putin puppet so the question isnt the "fitness" or "electability" of Dem Nom X?

Yes.

Ratfucking the likes of which Manafort, Stone, Atwater, and Finkelstein did?

No.

 

[Mivey]

2024 when Trump tries to get a 3rd term somehow.

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Wouldn't be entirely unfeasible, he'd just need to use his second term to abolish the 22nd amendment. If GOP wins both houses, it would probably go through Congress easily enough. Not sure it could get 2/3rd of the states to sign up, though.

 

[CrabDust]

I mean they've shown they're perfectly capable of fighting dirty

...With each other

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First post nailed it.

This is the curse of being a big tent instead of a cult.

 

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