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Professor Beef

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That's right, you've decided that you want to travel all the way to the fuckin' desert just to play some video games.

Welcome aboard, friend.

Seeing as how we just (at the time of making this thread) found out what games are at EVO, I won't go into too much detail about each game since this isn't the thread for that.

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(...but here's the lineup anyways...)

What this thread is actually for is to help people who may or may not have ever been to EVO, and therefore have no idea what to expect. EVO isn't just a regular tournament, it's considered by many to be *the* tournament and an experience all on it's own. But if you're only going there to compete and do nothing else, you're doing yourself a disservice and wasting a perfectly good trip to Vegas. Let's start with the basics, and move on from there.

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1) PLANNING YOUR TRIP
a) First let's pretend that you've already decided what games you want to play and you've already registered and all that. You now need to figure out how to get there. For those of you not on the west coast, plane travel is probably your best bet. Don't wait for the last minute, check prices CONTINUOUSLY in order to get a good deal. For those of you on the west coast, specifically CA, it's not a bad idea to consider driving if you're not comfortable with flying. It's longer obviously, but you also won't be beholden to airport security. You can also consider taking a Greyhound; prices are super cheap (a quick and dirty search on their website shows prices around $20 for a one-way ticket from SoCal on July 31st) and you don't need to worry about ridiculous gas prices. For those of us in the Pacific Northwest, Greyhound is still an option (despite being obviously more expensive) but a flight may be cheaper (depending on when you book) and is obviously quicker.

b) Next comes where you'll be staying. As Wiz said on stream, they're partnering with Mandalay Bay this year which means the hotel will be right next to the venue. And while a room right next to the venue is nice and convenient, it might not be the most cost-effective. Vegas is full of hotels though, so if you're willing to travel a bit you can find a cheaper place to stay and rideshare or hoof it to the venue. Other people can vouch for Mandalay if you really want to stay there and refuse to walk in the Vegas summer heat, and honestly who could blame you?

Speaking of hotels, don't forget that you'll be spending the weekend with thousands of people there for the same thing. So why not reach out locally or online and see if you can find someone to room with? While I do not condone or encourage 6, 7, or 8 people to a room, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do in order to keep costs down. There may also be some secret tech for getting a better room but I'll keep quiet about that huehuehue

c) PACK FOR WARM WEATHER. I've been to EVO several times, and so often I have seen people from somewhere where it's naturally cold just SHOCKED that they're in triple digit weather all of a sudden. There is AC in the venue and hotel rooms, but if you're looking to do tourist shit then you're likely gonna be out of luck. Also remember to bring toiletries. This is especially important if you're rooming with others since the tiny amounts the hotels give you simply isn't enough.

d) Make sure to pack well, but also remember that there's TONS of shit to buy. So pack smart, but also try to account for any goodies or huge statues that you might decide to impulse buy. I had a friend one year who spent at least an hour trying to figure out how he was going to fit his two to three foot tall Akuma statue in his luggage.

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2) WHAT TO DO AT THE VENUE
- So you're at the venue, you're unpacked, you're in your room. Now what? Well it's Vegas, duh. There's shows and entertainment and casinos everywhere! Book tickets online for shows, do some light gambling if you want, an-...oh, you wanted to know what to do literally at the venue. Well assuming you arrive a day in advance, you can always go pick up your badge. The earlier the better, since the line only gets longer as the day progresses and more people arrive. Once you get your pass, you can walk around the dealer's and artist's areas to check out their wares. You can also ask around to find some rooms with some setups to play and practice. Remember, everyone at EVO is there because they love fighting games, so don't be afraid to call next or find out where an impromptu session is. Or hell, maybe YOU can host a session in your room and make some new friends!

The same thing goes for when the tournament actually starts, except now everything is actually open. Let's say you've got time between your games or you went 0 and 2. The BYOC (bring your own controller/console) room is always a popular destination. If it's a fighting game, it'll probably be in there. And hell, even if it's not a fighting game it might be in there if it's 2 or more players. Same stuff I mentioned in the previous paragraph applies as well. Plenty of places to eat, watch shows, and gamble. Just do it all in moderation!

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3) FINALS DAY
- It's Sunday, finals day. You didn't make top 32/16/8 or drowned in pools but you still wanna catch all the action. Well there's not many options for you if you decided not to buy a ticket to the arena (yes, it's a separate cost). The first year they offered the option, I decided that it wasn't worth the cost and chilled in my hotel room and watched the finals stream while eating pizza. Obviously not the most glamorous choice, but it fit my budget and I was comfy as hell laying in bed. If you've never been to the arena or have never watched an EVO finals set in person before...go for the arena. Actually being with the crowd is an indescribable experience. The amount of pure energy around you simply cannot be replicated. Do I regret not going to the arena my first year? Not entirely. I mean yeah I've been near front-row watching finals several years now, so it's not like I felt I was missing anything. But watching in my hotel room, as used to finals crowds as I am, simply wasn't comparable.

If you've got the dough, shell out for an arena seat. Plain and simple.

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4) SOME GENERAL TIPS
- Take a bunch of money. No, seriously. BRING MONEY. As mentioned before, there's a lot of things to buy, there's tons of places to gamble (even the airport has slot machine!), and of course you can always bet on money matches or PARTICIPATE in money matches! And if you feel like being a big baller, you can always hit up a Vegas buffet and eat like a king. Cheap food is easy to find in Vegas, but the good shit is gonna cost you. To give people an idea of what this trip costs, here's what a trip to EVO cost me a couple years ago:

Roundtrip plane ticket: $300 (Seattle to Vegas)
Hotel room for Thursday to Monday morning: $400-$500 (I booked early and had some roommates, but I footed the bill initially)
Daily food budget: $100 (I didn't come anywhere close to reaching that per day, it's just what I set aside)
Tournament registration: $70-$80 (venue fee was around $50, and iirc it was $10 per game)

Obviously everyone has different needs and priorities when it comes to budgeting money, so please do not consider my totals as some sort of hard expectation. It's just to give you an idea of what the budgeting process can look like.

- Don't be afraid to head back up to your room to rest and/or cool off. That's what it's there for after all. If you've been walking around in the Vegas heat too long or if you think you're getting too...invested, for lack of a better term, then head back to your room and relaaaaaaax. Your room will likely have AC, after all.

- If you plan on using a wireless controller (Switch Pro Controller, Joy Cons, Dualshock 4, etc), MAKE SURE IT'S CHARGED. Also, MAKE SURE TO TURN IT OFF/DISCONNECT IT FROM THE SYSTEM. Terrible things have happened in the past due to the negligence of players. Terrible, awful things.

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And that wraps up just about everything for planning a trip to EVO. Other people are more than welcome to chime in and/or offer critique on what I already mentioned. And if you're offering extra space in a hotel room, feel free to mention it here and see if anyone takes up the offer. But above all else, have fun while you're there!
 

Bigkrev

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Oct 25, 2017
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This was going to be the year I went to Evo- I would throw $10 in the pot to go 0-2 in Granblue Fighters cause i'm terrible at fighting games, but I've wanted for years to just... experience Evo. Go to Sunday in the arena, wander around seeing people money matching in random games, and do Vegas-stuff, like go see Penn and Teller.

Then, I got a wedding invite the same freaking weekend, so this isn't happening :(
 

Starwing

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Oct 31, 2018
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I've been to Vegas twice when I was a kid and OP is right about bringing cash. There are a LOT of things to see, especially in some of my favotite venues like Circus Circus and Luxor.
 

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YO YOU WANNA LEARN HOW TO DO A FUCKIN INFINITE?
 

Osu 16 Bit

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A very cool place to go a little off strip is the pinball hall of fame. Just rows and rows of pinball from all eras, and a few classic arcade games. No charge to get in, you just use quarters. Right next door to a vintage game store as well.
 

Trace

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Definitely going this year if I can scrounge up the money. Never been before and it seems like I'd love to go and get 0-2'd in Granblue.
 

FunMouse

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How does the ticket pricing work if you just want to spectate and not participate in the fights? I have the free time to go there but I just wanna go and see people play and shit.
 

Jahranimo

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Good thread!

I went the past two years and they were a blast! except drowing in samsho and ultimate pools

I think the more cost effective hotel is the Luxor since it's still pretty close to the venue itself but you ain't paying the Mandalay prices overall. Mandalay/Luxor/Excalibur are the trinity of hotel resorts for being as close to EVO and gambling if that's what you're into.

edit: One thing I'll add that's super important is not only toiletries, but keep a nice 24-pack of WATER in your room (and even bring a bag to keep a bottle or two with you) to stay hydrated and keep hand sanitizer on deck.
 

Megatron

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Oct 27, 2017
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GO to EVO? Lol. Nah. but this might be the year I watch it online for the first time.
I just checked to see when it is. Not until the end of July.
 

Daouzin

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Oct 28, 2017
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With Melee out, I'm not sure if I'm going to go this year, but man, if it's not too tough to watch the MvC2 invitational in person, I feel like it'll be worth going just to watch that. I will definitely be watching out for info on it.
 

Jintor

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what a hot writeup. saving this for four years from now when i can actually afford to fly to vegas on my own dime
 

Joni

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I think the more cost effective hotel is the Luxor since it's still pretty close to the venue itself but you ain't paying the Mandalay prices overall. Mandalay/Luxor/Excalibur are the trinity of hotel resorts for being as close to EVO and gambling if that's what you're into.
And not having to walk between them, Excalibur and Luxor have that monorail service to Mandalay.
 

Potterson

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Oct 28, 2017
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How does it work if I don't wanna play and just watch games?

Or should I just register for my favourite game just to get in to watch stuff? :D
 

Valkerion

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How does it work if I don't wanna play and just watch games?

Or should I just register for my favourite game just to get in to watch stuff? :D

You walk in. There you go lol.

I wanna go to EVO one year but only able to go to EVO Japan on my budget since its not far for me. It's always on a bad week for me though, usually as work is starting again etc. Hopefully I can fake sick or something this year and take a long break haha.
 

Jer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ooo good thread.

Here's my random trash advice:

- If you're flying, if it's at all possible, try to either get a nonstop flight, or leave a lot of time between your connections. I've heard too many sad stories of people getting DQ-ed from their pool because they missed a connection. Sometimes there's nothing you can do, but it's worth trying to minimize the risk.

- Mandalay Bay is worth the money, but if you can't afford it, Luxor is the second best option. The rooms are fine, the casino floor and restaurants are nice, and it's connected to Mandalay Bay, so you can get from your room to the venue without going outside.

- Pick up your badges Thursday. Don't get stuck in the badge line on Friday morning.

- COME TO YOUR POOL REALLY REALLY EARLY. LIKE 2 HOURS EARLY. SECURITY WAS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE LAST YEAR, AND HALF OUR TEKKEN POOL GOT DQ-ED BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE BUT STUCK IN THE SECURITY LINE which was great because it let me get out of pools. HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE BETTER THIS YEAR, BUT DON'T TAKE THE RISK.

- Buy your Sunday finals pass ahead of time. They will sell out. My friend couldn't get in last year because he waited until the day of and it sold out. It sucked.

- Don't forget to watch Friday/Saturday finals, which have more of the "old Evo" feel to them. SC6 was Friday last year and one of my favorite finals of the weekend.

- Explore the venue, play the indy games, go down the artist's row. There's more there than just the tournament, and it's worth spending some time to see it.

- You can save a whole bunch of money on food and drink by making a run out to somewhere like Walmart and stocking up for the weekend. It's worth doing if you have the time, because the casino prices on everything are extremely high.

- Gambling is fun. Allocate money for it ahead of time and assume you'll lose the entire allocation, if you happen to not, great. Check out https://wizardofodds.com/ ahead of time for optimal strategy for your game of choice - no reason to give the casino more edge than they get already. Try craps, it's awesome.

- Go to shows. There's a bunch of good options, but I'd specifically recommend Ka at the MGM Grand - it's fantastic and walkable from Mandalay/Luxor.

- Take advantage of Vegas in general. There's a bunch of other threads on here with Vegas recommendations, but if you don't experience Vegas, you're wasting the trip. Walk the strip, go to Fremont Street, go to restaurants, go to buffets, savor the fact that you can walk down the street with a drink in hand. Vegas is wonderful.

Well, that ended up being longer than planned. But yeah, it's a good time, highly recommended.
 

Jer

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Thought of one more thing, and it's going to sound stupid, but practice setting buttons and disconnecting your controller. Especially true if you're entering games you don't normally play in tournaments. There's nothing worse than already being nervous, and then having to fumble around trying to get set up.

I had one year where I entered Pokken Tournament having never played outside my house, and it was a five minute ordeal every time getting my controller to work. I think it may have actually helped me because it made my opponent think I was a complete scrub and gave them false confidence, but still, not recommended!
 

Naijaboy

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Oh god I burned so much money when I went in 2018. It didn't help that the hotel I went to was a bit scummy. Be sure to do research on the hotel you're going to avoid any extra prices. And be sure you ha w the money for everything.

Also, going early also means less waiting times for the booths. If there's a new game you want to play, be sure to find where you want to go and plan accordingly.

It's also a good place to meet all your favorite players, especially if you're in a scene where they don't travel there. It's fairly easy to meet them since their brackets are up.

Oh and in case you don't want to pay for the arena: I was there at the Cell Yell that year. It was the most spectacular moment of my time with the FGC.

And it's also a nice place to latch onto some more niche scenes like when I entered the ARMS tournament that year.
 
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Well MrWiz posted this earlier today on Twitter:



Which also reminded me that I needed to book my hotel room, which I just did. Next week I'll be able to book my flight, and then it's nothing but saving money for Summer.
 

smurfx

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Well MrWiz posted this earlier today on Twitter:



Which also reminded me that I needed to book my hotel room, which I just did. Next week I'll be able to book my flight, and then it's nothing but saving money for Summer.
i legit wonder if many japanese/korean gamers will stay home due to corona virus fears. heck many even joke about people getting sick after attending evo. i really hope the virus has started to die out by then but if not it's gonna suck bad for all involved.
 
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i legit wonder if many japanese/korean gamers will stay home due to corona virus fears. heck many even joke about people getting sick after attending evo. i really hope the virus has started to die out by then but if not it's gonna suck bad for all involved.
i admittedly haven't been keeping up much with the virus until recently since it actually appeared in my county, but if air travel is still restricted come summer, things are going to be weird.
 

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I know I changed my plans this year because of Coronavirus. I decided to hit a more local event instead of one of the Pro Tour events. I get the same people I like in community, and fewer foreign players/less chance of infectious disease.

Seriously though, if you're thinking about EVO, CEO or Combo Breaker are more affordable experiences that I think offer more if you are going for the fighting game experience and not the Vegas experience.

I did attend EVO last year- got sick, but also got out of pools so I considered it successful. You do have a better chance of getting out of pools at EVO- more bad players enter EVO. CEO/Combo Breaker have the 24 hr arcades.
 

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Arena setting for the 2016 Melee top 8 was the most hype tournament experience of all time for me. Brought my wife-to-be and a couple friends along and we had a blast. Listening to Scar lose his mind over the arena speakers was fantastic, can't recommend stuff like that enough. It was like out of an 80s movie where literally the entire crowd is going bananas for video games.
 
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Professor Beef

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Seriously though, if you're thinking about EVO, CEO or Combo Breaker are more affordable experiences that I think offer more if you are going for the fighting game experience and not the Vegas experience.
They're also further away from the west coast, and therefore more expensive. That's something people can't forget to consider.
 

ridaxan

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I had the opportunity to attend EVO last year (I was actually there for the Blackhat training on the same weekend) and it was a magical experience.

As someone all the way from South Africa it was awesome to see. I was planning on going again this year, but the company I work for has put a ban on international travel due to the relevant fears regarding potential corona virus exposure.

Mandalay Bay (the hotel) is awesome, although I'm by no means "well traveled", so take that with a pinch of salt.