Shy Member Oct 25, 2017 14,537 Mar 11, 2020 #9,901 Kyra said: Ok so why does there need to be a nefarious plot by the DNC in order for Bernie to lose here? Why are people afraid to say things like the voting public isnt that smart and votes against their interests? Im not going to 100% doubt that there are some force or forces behind the scenes trying to influence things because i think it would be naive to think that there is never any fuckery in an election but my question is does there need to be? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I never said there was. I don't know why you're asking me this in particular.