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Someone already hacked the PlayStation Classic!

Oct 29, 2017
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What’s with all these Rasperry Pi comments? If we wanted a Pi we wouldn’t be following the status of the classic.

Is it like this in the NES/SNES Classic threads too?
It's annyoing, because I already have a Pi. I already have PSX emulators. I already have a PS3 & Vita with lots of PS1 games on it.

I know there are tons of alternatives. I have the alternatives.
None of the other ones comes in such a great package. a PSX replica and 2x controllers? that's a pretty solid deal imo, even though it is nostalgia bait.
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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It's annyoing, because I already have a Pi. I already have PSX emulators. I already have a PS3 & Vita with lots of PS1 games on it.

I know there are tons of alternatives. I have the alternatives.
None of the other ones comes in such a great package. a PSX replica and 2x controllers? that's a pretty solid deal imo, even though it is nostalgia bait.
Just wait for a Retroflag PS1 Pi case. You know it is coming, they just released the Genesis version to really solid reviews.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's annyoing, because I already have a Pi. I already have PSX emulators. I already have a PS3 & Vita with lots of PS1 games on it.

I know there are tons of alternatives. I have the alternatives.
None of the other ones comes in such a great package. a PSX replica and 2x controllers? that's a pretty solid deal imo, even though it is nostalgia bait.
Two terrible controllers with no dual shock.
 

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Wow it’s actually getting worse? This product is such a huge embarrassment for Sony, I wish they never released it. It’s a distraction when they should be doubling down on their strengths (PS4, PS Plus, epic current gen game library) during the holiday season.
 
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Wow it’s actually getting worse? This product is such a huge embarrassment for Sony, I wish they never released it. It’s a distraction when they should instead be doubling down on their strengths (PS4, PS Plus, epic game library) during the holiday season.
What do you mean 'worse'?

This is a good thing, people can actually improve on it!

From a consumer's POV this is great news!
 

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What do you mean 'worse'?

This is a good thing, people can actually improve on it!

From a consumer's POV this is great news!
You mean hacking?

I guess from that point of view it’s a good thing. I don’t want to buy a PS Classic for hacking though. I want a nice offering to begin with that doesn’t run games slowly and feels like a complete package and not a botched holiday turd. But to each his own.
 
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You mean hacking?

I guess from that point of view it’s a good thing. I don’t want to buy a PS Classic for hacking though. I want a nice offering to begin with that doesn’t run games slowly and feels like a complete package and not a botched holiday turd. But to each his own.
Yes I mean hacking, you came in a thread that discusses the PS Classic being hacked. :P

I got it as a gift, so I'm willing to make it better for the sake of it, you know.
 

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Yes I mean hacking, you came in a thread that discusses the PS Classic being hacked. :P

I got it as a gift, so I'm willing to make it better for the sake of it, you know.
I understand. But given how easy it is to hack I’d think you can see why I felt compelled to say it’s such an embarrassment. It just came out. Runs games like crap, hardware is inadequate for its application from what I understand and has encryption so weak it’s already been hacked.

Also on the subject of hacking, does it really matter if it can’t run games at normal speed anyway if the hardware seems to be inadequate? Or is it strictly a software issue? Then there might be a glimmer of hope.
 
Dec 4, 2017
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Probably; you either needed a mod chip or an Action Replay and a paper clip. Though I'm sure it would've been popular as shit without it. It's not like everyone had access to CD burners back then.
Heh. You clearly have never seen African boys selling pirated PlayStation games in the middle of the road in plain daylight, or the people who did have a CD burner back then with their PCs working day and night to churn out copy upon copy of the hottest PS games to resell to friends and colleagues.

In the years 1997-2001 I never knew a single PlayStation owner whose console wasn’t modded, and among those, it was rare for anyone to have more than 1 or 2 genuine games near their pile of copied CDs.

I’m curious to see what hackers can get out of the PS Classic. It has USB ports, so a lot of things should be possible.
 
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I understand. But given how easy it is to hack I’d think you can see why I felt compelled to say it’s such an embarrassment. It just came out. Runs games like crap, hardware is inadequate for its application from what I understand and has encryption so weak it’s already been hacked.

Also on the subject of hacking, does it really matter if it can’t run games at normal speed anyway if the hardware seems to be inadequate? Or is it strictly a software issue? Then there might be a glimmer of hope.
The PS Classic uses a really old branch of reARMed and the components show untapped potential, so the odds that the emulation issues are software-related are high.
 

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The PS Classic uses a really old branch of reARMed and the components show untapped potential, so the odds that the emulation issues are software-related are high.
Oh! I learned something today. Then the hacking while still embarrassing in one regard is quite viable in another.
 
Nov 27, 2018
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Nah, the controllers are legit imo.

That goes without saying that a hack could make DS4 compatible, too.
Maybe but surely not wirelessly? AFAIK the PS Classic doesn’t have Bluetooth capability.

Being able to play PS1 games wirelessly with my DS4 on my Pi is pretty spectacular. I’m easy pleased.
 
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Maybe but surely not wirelessly? AFAIK the PS Classic doesn’t have Bluetooth capability.

Being able to play PS1 games wirelessly with my DS4 on my Pi is pretty spectacular. I’m easy pleased.
You and I both, love my Pi as well. :)

Perhaps something could be done with a bluetooth adapter at some point, once it's hacked, but that's just pure speculations.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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But given how easy it is to hack I’d think you can see why I felt compelled to say it’s such an embarrassment.
Why would Sony even care? It's not an online connected device. Cheating doesn't matter. There's no additional software being sold. Once you've bought the thing you've paid for the hardware and included games. Anything that happens after that doesn't matter to Sony at all. Even the included games can be freely digitized and distributed from any original copy, and all already have been for decades, so being easily decrypted from this device is totally meaningless.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not sure if there’s a better thread to ask this in, but this seems good enough. Regarding hacking the PS Classic with Bleemsync, is there actually a way to play with 2 controllers on a bleemsync game? There’s some 2 player stuff my wife and I want to play. Would a USB hub work? (USB drive and 2nd controller both plugged into hub, hub plugged into PS Classic)

Appreciate any advice! Thanks!

Edit - this is what I’m referencing using: https://github.com/pathartl/BleemSync
 
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Not sure if there’s a better thread to ask this in, but this seems good enough. Regarding hacking the PS Classic with Bleemsync, is there actually a way to play with 2 controllers on a bleemsync game? There’s some 2 player stuff my wife and I want to play. Would a USB hub work? (USB drive and 2nd controller both plugged into hub, hub plugged into PS Classic)

Appreciate any advice! Thanks!

Edit - this is what I’m referencing using: https://github.com/pathartl/BleemSync
Hub should work! At this moment the way to do it would be to have the USB dongle on the second controller port and having the hub plugged in the first's with both controllers plugged in the hub.

Also, Bleemsync 1.0 which is being finalized will enable data transfer by the mini-USB port. So now you can plug an OTG splitter adapter behind for both the power/data and have two free ports on the front. :D

As for the best place to discuss this, come by the OT in Hangouts!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Hub should work! At this moment the way to do it would be to have the USB dongle on the second controller port and having the hub plugged in the first's with both controllers plugged in the hub.

Also, Bleemsync 1.0 which is being finalized will enable data transfer by the mini-USB port. So now you can plug an OTG splitter adapter behind for both the power/data and have two free ports on the front. :D

As for the best place to discuss this, come by the OT in Hangouts!
Awesome thank you! I’ll do that! Real quick tho - when you say it’s being finalized, does that mean I should just wait for 1.0 to fully release? And as for the splitter, which one do you recommend? I promise to take further questions to the OT, just hoping to get a quick answer before I start hacking / decide to wait for 1.0. Thx!
 
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Awesome thank you! I’ll do that! Real quick tho - when you say it’s being finalized, does that mean I should just wait for 1.0 to fully release? And as for the splitter, which one do you recommend? I promise to take further questions to the OT, just hoping to get a quick answer before I start hacking / decide to wait for 1.0. Thx!
If you're in no hurry, I'd recommend to wait. It should come out very soon. I'm keeping a close eye on the PS Classic reddit page where a Bleemsync dev gives regular updates.

For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/Playstatio...rmed_exfat_and_ntfs_support_for_bleemsync_10/
 
Hi all:

What would be the best "scanlines" overlay to use? I have experimented with some grid-based ones but the default scanlines one seem to rough or dark.

Shaders are not an option as they cause slowdown. What do you guys recommend? I prefer the closest thing as possible to a CRT.

Edit: asking for the PS Classic of course.
 
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I'm a bit out of the loop on how PSClassic's guts compare to, say, Pi3 or SNES Classic. If this is truly a powerful machine to pick up for hdtv emulator-installation potential at $60 or less, I'd love some insight from this thread's smarter folks.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm a bit out of the loop on how PSClassic's guts compare to, say, Pi3 or SNES Classic. If this is truly a powerful machine to pick up for hdtv emulator-installation potential at $60 or less, I'd love some insight from this thread's smarter folks.
Same.
I'm lttp here and I'd like to ask. Which is better as an emubox, psclassic or pi3b+?
I see the classic now runs psp, hows that on a pi?
I'm torn between pi on a mega drive case or psclassic.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Same.
I'm lttp here and I'd like to ask. Which is better as an emubox, psclassic or pi3b+?
I see the classic now runs psp, hows that on a pi?
I'm torn between pi on a mega drive case or psclassic.
Pi has a huge community and I reckon its emulators would have more work put into them (and actively maintained for longer) making them more optimized and perform better even if the hardware was slightly weaker (which I don't know if it is). Also setup and upgradability couldn't be easier on the Pi. Probably also better controller/peripheral compatibility, has more USB ports, WiFi, Bluetooth, Ethernet, etc.

Search for Retropie on YouTube and you'll be amazed.

And you can use it as a general purpose computer by just swapping the MicroSD card for a free OS of your choice any time.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Honestly from what I've seen the PS Classic seems to run about on par with a Pi so if you're just looking for an all around emulation box the Raspberry Pi is still the King when it comes to price and performance. I wouldn't buy a PS Classic for an emulation box myself, that's just not the appeal of the system imo.
 
I'm a bit out of the loop on how PSClassic's guts compare to, say, Pi3 or SNES Classic. If this is truly a powerful machine to pick up for hdtv emulator-installation potential at $60 or less, I'd love some insight from this thread's smarter folks.
The PS Classic has the best GPU of the bunch but that's pretty meaningless when it comes to emulating PS1 games at a native 240p. The Pi3B+ has a clear advantage on the CPU side, which means in theory it should be the more capable emulation machine.

Pi also has the advantage of running GNU Linux; as opposed the Android based OS on the Classic; but I don't really know how much big an advantage that actually is, given they're both custom implementations (presumably both cutting out a lot of the unnecessary usual OS bloat).
 
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