Someone stole my identity and sexually harassed a coworker

Nivash

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I'm in a bit of a shock right now. Long story but bear with me:

So here's what happened, from my perspective. I work as a doctor at a small town clinic. For a few weeks, things have been tense between me and a female physiotherapist I work with (let's call her K). We used to be friendly, joking around and having a good time. Nothing more than that, just office pals. Then things changed. She started distancing herself and was visibly uncomfortable around me. Her friends at the office started acting similarly last week. At first, I didn't think much of it. I have a ton of stuff to do anyway and put off dealing with it. Maybe she was going through something. Maybe she had a jealous boyfriend. Who knew. I figured I should talk to her at some point when I got the chance (I didn't, work got in the way) and time rushed by.

Today, my bosses preempted me. They called me up to their office without saying why. I was nervous, I'll tell you that. Like I said, I'm a doctor. Worst case scenario? I've killed someone and is about to be told about it. That... wasn't it. At all. Instead, they told me I needed to stop sending text messages to K.

This came as something of a surprise considering I've never sent her a text message. Ever. We don't have any contact whatsoever outside work. After a few moments of confusion and momentary distrust they believed me (thank God). We decided to call up K as well and sort out whatever was going on.

This.... is where it gets seriously weird. Turns out, two months ago K got a text message from an unknown number. Let's call the sender D, for dick (which is going to prove apt as we proceed)

- D: wanna hang out??
- K: who's this?
- D: [my first name]
- K: [my last name]?
- D: Yeah ;)

That's where things start getting derailed. Badly. This D character got filthy. REALLY filthy. K didn't want to tell us all the details and had deleted most of the messages, but it was sexual stuff. What kind of positions she likes. If we should hook up. What she was wearing. I'm guessing dick pics even if K didn't mention any.

K couldn't believe her eyes. I'm not that kind of guy (no, really, quite the opposite in fact) and she couldn't square the me in person with how D - claiming to be me - was acting in the messages. She tried asking things she though only I could know and... strangely... D passed as me. K still didn't understand how I could be such a split personality, but how could she think otherwise? Plenty of sickos out there.

This went on for two months. Two. Fucking. Months. She repeatedly tried to tell D to stop but he never did. Two weeks ago she told another coworker - a mutual friend - to tell me I shouldn't message her because she had a boyfriend. I didn't get why at all. I figured the boyfriend was a jealous POS and she was trying to do preemptive damage control in case I ever messaged her in the future. So I told the friend to tell her I wouldn't, send thought that was it.

D obviously didn't stop. This is where things got genuinely tense because, in Ks eyes, that's where I really passed over into psychopath #metoo scumbag territory (it is boggles my mind how she put up with "me" for as long as she did). This guy was relentless. We had a kick off during a weekend and she got a sexual message while was seated two rows away. She thought "I" was insane.

She instantly believed me too. Thank God. We checked the number sending the messages and it obviously wasn't mine. We tried searching for it (I live in Sweden that have public databases for that) and came up with nothing. You can get yourself removed from the databases if you want. Well... not completely empty. One database had no information but did show that 780 people had searched for the same number before and one had added a comment: "[my name] [different last name]". Yes, quotes included. Looks like a serial stalker.

I'm at a bit of a loss. K is going to talk to everyone who's heard about the drama and get my reputation restored (thanks K!) but we'll need to do something more. We should report it to the police. At least that way, we might get a name and a location. But I'll give K some time to process all this before we do that.
 

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I was starting to wonder if you had carbon monoxide poisoning and you were doing this late at night without knowing given how much this person seemingly knows about you... but then it happened when you were at a public event. Yeesh. That's creepy.
 

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This.... This is extremely bizarre....

No one shook you down for money or anything? I would guess that part of this would be "ill continue until you pay me to stop" or something.
 
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Nivash

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I was starting to wonder if you had carbon monoxide poisoning and you were doing this late at night without knowing given how much this person seemingly knows about you... but then it happened when you were at a public event. Yeesh. That's creepy.
I'm not completely knows anything to fair. K showed me some of the messages she'd saved for the expected confrontation. They were sent recently. They consisted of K feeding D a lot of specific information only she and I know, but she got one sentence replies that merely implied he knew the same information.

It could be a cold reading. In addition, I have a unique name. You can find out a lot about me just by checking public sources and whatever slivers of social media that I haven't blocked from public view.
 

Disco

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This happens a lot with facebook accounts too (for money or lewd shit) but that gets shut down fairly quickly

Through text tho....God damn. That sucks man
 

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holy shit, that's some scary stuff. 780 people looked that number, damn. You should contact the police, they might be able to do something about it
 

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That is a wild and terrifying story. Wow. Definitely call the cops.

I feel so bad for K. I can't imagine it was much of a relief to learn that it's not a co-worker, it's a malevolent stranger...
 

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Ok, for some reason you still haven't 100% convinced me you weren't D. It just seem so unbelievable that a random person will go through all the trouble to impersonate you and even passing as you to someone you know for a long time.
 
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I'm genuinely a bit terrified by the thought of it being someone else at work. Like, someone saw we got along well and went into sabotage mode. It all started after the office Autumn Party (yes, we have parties for every season) when a slightly drunken K hugged me on my way out, in front of everyone.

That's what made her believe D, in fact. She figured she'd crossed a line and woken something in me. It kinda fit the timeline.

At the same time... we're a small clinic in a small town. Everyone knows everyone. Most coworkers are women. Not a lot of suspects. Can't think of anyone, really. That, and the 780 previous searches implying a serial stalker.

Oh, an about the info: our website lists the entire staff, some connecting me to K is easy. Also, like I mentioned, Sweden has public phone number databases that are opt out. You can get the number and adress of basically anyone as long as you have their name. K hasn't opted out.
 

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It has to be someone who had her number and also knows who OP is. So probably a coworker. Unless her number is publically listed and OP is publically listed as working there, then could just be a stalker. She should probably call the police though and get a squad car near her house for a week or two if that's something the police in Sweden would do. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the person doing this is scoping out her place on the regular.
 
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Ok, for some reason you still haven't 100% convinced me you weren't D. It just seem so unbelievable that a random person will go through all the trouble to impersonate you and even passing as you to someone you know for a long time.
I don't really know K that well. We've only worked together 6 months, haven't spent any time outside work functions and typically talk or joke about work. The kind of questions she asked could theoretically be answered by following my digital trail. And again, from the messages she showed me, she didn't really challenge him. She figured a normal person would fess up eventually.

My money is on cold reading.
 
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My guess.

its another one of your coworkers that stole your identity and did this

Think back, about people asking you questions, even nice ones.
 

ZOONAMI

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Also, if she does have a BF, it's concievable he is a raging asshole and did this.

OP have you ever met her BF/SO?
 

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I don't really know K that well. We've only worked together 6 months, haven't spent any time outside work functions and typically talk or joke about work. The kind of questions she asked could theoretically be answered by following my digital trail. And again, from the messages she showed me, she didn't really challenge him. She figured a normal person would fess up eventually.

My money is on cold reading.
Cold reading sounds less likely the answer here than someone in your life, no?
 
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Nivash

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Also, if she does have a BF, it's concievable he is a raging asshole and did this.
The boyfriend's new and it DID start around the time I'm thinking they were getting serious... but I'm sure as hell not suggesting that to K. Would be one hell of a twist if it was true, though.

Some added info BTW: like I said, K is a physiotherapist. PTs work intimately with patients and K has told me about some of harassment she'd put up with in the past. Including patients trying to hit on her or even friending her on Facebook.

If this is a stalker with access, him being a patient is high on the list.
 
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Cold reading sounds less likely than someone in your life, no?
I mean basic cold reading. Stuff like:

- D: what are you doing for the weekend?

-K: you already know that [implying corporate retreat we both attend]

- D: I sure do haha [not actually knowing but agreeing anyway]

Just implying he knows what she thinks he knows, without really having a clue.
 

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But yeah.... time to lawyer and police up?
 

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I mean basic cold reading. Stuff like:

- D: what are you doing for the weekend?

-K: you already know that [implying corporate retreat we both attend]

- D: I sure do haha [not actually knowing but agreeing anyway]

Just implying he knows what she thinks he knows, without really having a clue.
That’s right, you said you did see the text messages themselves. Interesting still, I wonder how he was able to correctly guess your first name and obtain the number of someone who had just barely met you.

Edit: also if this has damaged you monetarily in any way, and they catch the guy, I would say to see a lawyer (though I don’t know what defamation law would be like in Sweden).

I'm genuinely a bit terrified by the thought of it being someone else at work. Like, someone saw we got along well and went into sabotage mode. It all started after the office Autumn Party (yes, we have parties for every season) when a slightly drunken K hugged me on my way out, in front of everyone.

That's what made her believe D, in fact. She figured she'd crossed a line and woken something in me. It kinda fit the timeline.

At the same time... we're a small clinic in a small town. Everyone knows everyone. Most coworkers are women. Not a lot of suspects. Can't think of anyone, really. That, and the 780 previous searches implying a serial stalker.

Oh, an about the info: our website lists the entire staff, some connecting me to K is easy. Also, like I mentioned, Sweden has public phone number databases that are opt out. You can get the number and adress of basically anyone as long as you have their name. K hasn't opted out.
Edit 2: ah, you already answered your reasoning for how he may have gotten all this information.
 
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Someone is trying to get rid of you from the workplace or tarnish your professional work, might need to protect yourself here and have everything down as evidence etc with police and lawyers ..
 

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Ok, for some reason you still haven't 100% convinced me you weren't D. It just seem so unbelievable that a random person will go through all the trouble to impersonate you and even passing as you to someone you know for a long time.
Lol what. Why would he make this thread if it was actually him? Recalibrate your radar.
 

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I'm genuinely a bit terrified by the thought of it being someone else at work. Like, someone saw we got along well and went into sabotage mode. It all started after the office Autumn Party (yes, we have parties for every season) when a slightly drunken K hugged me on my way out, in front of everyone.

That's what made her believe D, in fact. She figured she'd crossed a line and woken something in me. It kinda fit the timeline.

At the same time... we're a small clinic in a small town. Everyone knows everyone. Most coworkers are women. Not a lot of suspects. Can't think of anyone, really. That, and the 780 previous searches implying a serial stalker.

Oh, an about the info: our website lists the entire staff, some connecting me to K is easy. Also, like I mentioned, Sweden has public phone number databases that are opt out. You can get the number and adress of basically anyone as long as you have their name. K hasn't opted out.
Sweden doesn't have pre-paid?
 
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Could be a google voice (I think?) number or something like that if so many people have reported it, multiple people who use the service get the same temporary phone number
 

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(it is boggles my mind how she put up with "me" for as long as she did).
I'm glad this situation "sorted itself out in an amicable manner" (it sounds like), but I think it is important to also highlight this observation you've made.

In a lot of cases - where actual on-the-job-harassment is done by actual colleagues - people (and especially women) will endure it, for a variety of complicated reasons.

Jobs that have a strong hierarchical culture (a hospital, for example), is particularly vulnerable to this dynamic, where someone high up in the chain (a doctor) can demean or outright harass someone "in the lower chain" (a new nurse, for example).

So, with that in mind, it shouldn't be too surprising (really) for you as a male (?) doctor to understand how difficult it would be to "bring this topic to the surface". Especially so, when a big part of harassment is gas-lighting. During the time she thought she was harassed by you, and you ostensibly acted friendly towards her in the work-place, it would probably be perceived as gas-lighting.

It's often easier to just grin and bear the psychological violence, and transfer the joy you felt in your profession before the harassment started, onto you private life and hobbies.

Professional work isn't the sum total of life, and while that's a healthy realization in general, it can also create a situation where people justify staying in a genuinely toxic workplace ("when I'm off-duty, I get to stop feeling miserable").

Very few jobs allow for the complexity of the human experience, so it's not that surprising that most people have to compartmentalize their feelings and reactions to complex situations that happen in the work-place (or in connection to the people you work with).

Obviously, this isn't any kind of "call-out."

It's just a stray thought I had about an oddly naive-sounding phrasing. If you're a doctor, and fairly young - and Scandinavian - chances are that you have at least some cursory "wokeness" as it pertains to work-place dynamics, and why this woman would endure "your harassment" for months, while seemingly appearing civil throughout the whole thing.

Cheers/love.
 
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lunarworks

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Given the number of search hits for that particular phone number, it could be a guy who does this habitually or, possibly, professionally. Maybe someone with a beef against you, rather than do the risky thing and do it themselves, fed this guy enough info that he could pretend to be you.
 

Rei no Otaku

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I had something similar happen at a place I worked. A female co-worker started getting harassing messages from another co-worker. When she confronted him he claimed to know nothing about it. Come to find out someone else who works there had pretended to be him to harass her. He had even gone to the extent of making a fake Facebook account in that person's name.

Definitely keep an eye on your other co-workers.
 

TheOMan

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Given the number of search hits for that particular phone number, it could be a guy who does this habitually or, possibly, professionally. Maybe someone with a beef against you, rather than do the risky thing and do it themselves, fed this guy enough info that he could pretend to be you.
Ooooh - that's a good guess. Maybe it is the boyfriend.
 

Baconmonk

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This sounds pretty scary. From the information you've given, I'd bet on it being a patient as well. Sounds like you got really lucky the situation got resolved as easily as it did.

I'm not sure what motivation the boyfriend would have for this. Would be just as sociopathic behavior as the 'patient stalker' theory imo.
 

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90% chance it’s one of your coworkers, 9% chance it’s the boyfriend, 1% chance it’s someone else
Yeah. The way you describe how it lined up with how she hugged you publicly, it sounds like someone is trying to hurt you professionally. Coworkers would be more likely to have her phone number and be able to bluff through a convo.

Really sucks both of you had to go through this. Hopefully they catch the person.
 

teruterubozu

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Two months is just bizarre. Either this impostor was very good and convincing or she's extremely gullible. Very strange story.
 
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OP, just wondering but have you or K tried to call this number from a different phone (meaning not hers or yours, in case they know the numbers)? I mean if there's still any doubts that this is you, if the person picks up while you are present in the room, that would clear up any doubts that it's you. Maybe you could even figure out who this person really is, while pretending it's a wrong number calling them