I fucking adored Sonic Mania, and I can't throw my money fast enough to this.
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Sonic Mania Plus announced - Physical release, new characters, new mode
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I fucking adored Sonic Mania, and I can't throw my money fast enough to this.
I just had a thought. What if in addition to being able to glide like Knuckles but not be able to break walls like Knuckles, they give Ray the ability to gain height once per glide like a certain other flying squirrel...
There was outcry over it for Advance 2. It took away everything unique about her and made her boring. Advance 2 did that with every character in general, though. All the levels were downhill races where the character you picked pretty much didn't matter because levels were only designed around Sonic anyway. Not only that, unlocking her was the most awful unlocking experience in the series and her being barely different from Sonic made it not worth it.
Check out this Sonic 3 Amy Rose mod:
This is how Amy should play and there's no need to tailor the levels for her.
I can't think of any reason they would need to change the levels for Amy. The whole point of her was playing with her unique playstyle in levels that weren't designed for it. She has a dash to get her up to speed to make it through loops and stuff in lieu of a spindash (and they can give her her version of super peel out as well), she has a hammer jump that can allow her to take paths Sonic can't reach. They can just force a roll for tubes, which is how Advance 1 did it.
There was outcry over it for Advance 2. It took away everything unique about her and made her boring. Advance 2 did that with every character in general, though. All the levels were downhill races where the character you picked pretty much didn't matter because levels were only designed around Sonic anyway. Not only that, unlocking her was the most awful unlocking experience in the series and her being barely different from Sonic made it not worth it.
Check out this Sonic 3 Amy Rose mod:
This is how Amy should play and there's no need to tailor the levels for her.
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I hear you but I believe their thinking is adding playable characters from the Genesis era, and Amy wasn't playable until the Modern games. Personally I'd like to see Blaze as the 4th playable character in Mania — introduce her in the Classic series and keep her as part of the main heroes.
Blaze is a better "action hero" than Amy, who is probably better suited to being a recurring NPC (in the Classic series).
Actually, I take back my previous post — Amy Rose could definitely work in the Classic series. That video is great.
(I'd still like Blaze to make her way into the main cast tho)
Man, I was just on my Amazon shopping cart a couple of days back and noticed I had the SM download code saved to buy later, ha
I've waited this long, a few more months is nothing. Glad they went with the obscure, original shitty friends for this one, I'm sure the rest of them will start creeping in over the next couple of SMs (and we inevitably start turning on it if they start making it more complex again unncessarily, like adding a human girlfriend or having a werehog. Although...).
I've waited this long, a few more months is nothing. Glad they went with the obscure, original shitty friends for this one, I'm sure the rest of them will start creeping in over the next couple of SMs (and we inevitably start turning on it if they start making it more complex again unncessarily, like adding a human girlfriend or having a werehog. Although...).
If I buy the physical version, will my save data carry over? Or will the consoles read Plus as a whole new game?
If you check my post, I said there was not >>much<< outcry over her playing nearly the same as anyone else. I'm sure some people complained about her changed moveset but I highly doubt it was a significant lot. Far less visible compared to people who complained about her gameplay in, say, games like Adventure 1 or Sonic 2006. You're also neglecting to mention that Amy still had a fair amount of hammer attacks in Advance 2 as well, so it's not like they redesigned her to be a literal palette swap of Sonic in the midst of the changes they made.
As for E-122 psi's trilogy of Amy hacks, I can't really say I'm much of a fan of her gameplay in those titles either. Her core mechanics in those titles are still visibly based around that of Advance 1, which are designed more around precision platforming that call for much more cautious gameplay in both her movement and her attacks (which are also more dependent on combat, since lack of spin attack/roll/spindash prohibits her from destroying enemies easily); a big shift from the momentum-based platforming that other characters have. Playing as Amy in the hacks and the games I've mentioned to have a problem with for me feel like playing a character designed for an entirely different game; since the level design/gameplay focus isn't inherently built around those mechanics. Which I guess is fun for some (hence the main appeal of her being a "Hard Mode"); but in my book feels more like a chore, and is ultimately way more frustrating than it is fun. The least I can give those hacks is that the level design in the classic games is much stronger in Advance 1, so her playstyle is more tolerable in the hacks compared to that title.
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Is Blaze the Hedgehog a fan creation? Can't imagine they'd ever add something
Ike that. Plus Blaze sounds a bit too try-hard. There's plenty of classic characters to add after Mania Plus. There's the remaining Chaotix, the Snipe (Game Gear one), Sonic the Fighters characters. At that point I'm sure they can create new characters that fit with the others if needed.
It's Blaze the Cat, and no she is official. She's from the Rush games which are some of the best non-Classic Sonic games ever.
I also have no idea how you can assume she is "try hard" based on her name alone. She's one of the better designed and developed Sonic characters.
I said the name sounds try hard. Had no idea what the character looked like. In my mind Blaze was a crude fan drawing of what basically looks like Sonic but with piercings, baggy jeans, wife beater, sunglasses, frosted spine tips. Maybe holding a condom in his/her mouth? I dunno. Better to stick to the look of the Mania/CD animations for character design, which are timeless. No need to bring in characters from the 2000s onward. Glad their doing a series of Mania animations.
If you replay every character in Encore Mode that's at least five more playthroughs (six if you play Sonic & Tails together as well).
Amy was playable in the spinoffs pre-Adventure such as the Sonic Drift titles, Sonic R and Sonic the Fighters which is more than Mighty and especially Ray who are blatant Sonic clones.
Heh, yeah, in SegaSonic Arcade Mighty and Ray don't even play different from Sonic and in Knuckles Chaotix the only thing Mighty has that differentiates him from Sonic is he can wall jump. Ray has never even been in a 2D game at all. I imagine they're going to make Ray play like Knuckles but without the ability to break walls, but I dunno what they're going to do with Mighty; give him an air dash?
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She looks like this
Her design is solid and it wouldn't be hard to scale it down either. While I can understand wanting just keeping mania to classic characters only, Blaze is leaps and bounds over the other friends.
Seems like a weird assumption. I've actually met two people irl with the name Blaze and they are perfectly normal. Not sure what about the name alone leads to certain implications.
And seems rather arbitrary to say "nah" when you admit you don't even know who she is. She could easily be scaled down to the artstyle of the Classic games.
This fanart translates her pretty well.
Now that Plus has filled out the bottom part of the round frame behind the wordmark, I wonder what DLC/expansion/whatever will fill in the spot above it.Oh cool, wasn't expecting an expansion to the game, and it's nice to see a physical release now. Seems a bit...late? I feel most physical sales are gonna be a small portion since most people who wanted the game probably already have it, but I guess there's also a good number who still haven't heard of the game or have been waiting for a physical copy, so it still makes sense I suppose.
I think Mania has a lot of potential for continued expansions, but those aspects of the logo have been there from the beginning, so they probably don't mean anything.
Like I mean, timeless is subjective? I mean, if you wanna get real about it, most people don't know who who the two characters just added to this game are. And people in this game are fawning over blaze, a character interoduced past 2000. And then there's that shadow guy, who's more popular than everyone. I don't think one should be claiming what is and isn't timeless in a franchise like this, its super subjected and devided. Also looking up the characters people are talking about might help
I think its a combination of She wasn't too popular, which is unfortunate and the much larger issue. Uh sega treating all their female characters not great.
I hope blaze gets more usage, I'm not getting my hopes up though. Sonic team and female characters are a notorious mess that has gone under the radar for quite some time
I think you answered what Mighty will play like in your post? He's gonna have that Chaotix wall jump for sure.
Euh that's precisely the definition of overrated. I love Breath of the Wild, but some people feel the game is overrated because it lacks dungeons. That's their right.
I don't think Sonic Mania deserves all the praises because I don't think the re-imagined parts are good. The new game mechanics are originsl but but they feel un-Sonic sometimes. The new bonus stage is terrible, with a poor 3D. Sonic 2 is one of my favourite game of all time. So when you are re-inventing a Sonic 2 level it better be good. In my opinion it's not. But I'm not saying it's a bad game.
The problem is I don't think that would be enough because levels need to be designed around it for it to be useful.
I am legitimately excited with Mighty and Ray returning, didn't think they ever would. The Mania team knows their stuff, wonder how they'll actually play, especially since Ray was never in a proper 2D game.
Personally, I think Amy can be added in the sequel.
I'm pre-ordering this, I can add it to my CE box.
Personally, I think Amy can be added in the sequel.
I'm pre-ordering this, I can add it to my CE box.
They're bonus characters, and the levels are very playground-y anyway. I think it'll be fine.
Sonic Mania makes Oil Ocean and Metallic Madness more interesting and better designed. Same goes for Stardust Speedway.
wheres that old user who used to rock the mighty avatar he is probably losing his shit right now lol
this is awesome do we know if these will be released for og owners?
this is awesome do we know if these will be released for og owners?
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