1. Dusk Golem

    Dusk Golem
    Local Horror Enthusiast Moderator OP

    I thought this deserved its own thread.

    So Sonic Mania Plus isn't out yet, but a patch just hit on PS4 UK (and probably going to hit soon on other platforms and territories, the patch hit less than an hour ago) which has fixed and changed some long standing issues with the game. There's cutscene skipping now as a general update, and some slight changes to previous level design and areas, but there's three major things with this update I think most will gravitate towards:

    01.) All the levels have cutscene transitions now to each other. Someone's been streaming the PS4 patch so here's some videos of the transitions if curious:


    02.) They actually took out and revamped one of the boss fights in the game and replaced it with a new take on the boss that's much more interesting. The rest of this boss is the same, they only changed the final phase of the fight. Spoilers, but here: https://clips.twitch.tv/PeacefulGrotesqueDadPMSTwin *SPOILERS*

    03.) You can now use unlockable abilities like the Insta-Shield, Peel-Out, etc., on Save Game files and NOT just No Save Files now.

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    UPDATE: 04.) Someone shared you can disable the time limit for stages from the options menu in this update as well.

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    There might be other changes, but the first one especially has been a long critique of the game for many fans, so it's nice to see they put it in ahead of Mania Plus' release. Also apparently Mania Plus is done with production, some staff apparently finished up all of their work yesterday and seems it's done, just to see when it's released now.
     
  2. Cool, wasn’t expecting much more than what was mentioned in the press release for the Plus version.
    The fight in question was pretty bugged so a change is neat.
    They should probably leave an option to play it somehow as well, tho.

    Hope they fixed the save system and the hit box for getting crushed too
     
  3. Zonic

    Zonic
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    I'm hearing that unlockables like the insta-shield & super peel-out also work on saved games now, where as you could only use them on a no-save run.

    I haven't had the patch hit yet for me on PS4, but cannot wait to try this stuff out.
     
  4. Seik

    Seik
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    Stage transitions are an unexpected but very welcome addition.

    I thought it was a shame that all stages weren't treated the same. Glad to see that they're polishing everything up for Mania Plus!
     
  5. Dusk Golem

    Dusk Golem
    Local Horror Enthusiast Moderator OP

    Someone else had mentioned that to me, so added. Would be the third big thing, can use unlocked abilities on Save Files rather than just No Save runs with this patch too.
     
  6. Nanashrew

    Nanashrew
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    The cut animation for Tails in Chemical Plant was also added in.

     
  7. soulzonik

    soulzonik
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    I think the patch is for the UK only (maybe EU), not US.

    All reports that I saw was from there.
     
  8. Davey Cakes

    Davey Cakes
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    I have it on PC and was going to do my Knuckles run of the game pretty soon. Good timing, I guess. I'll keep my eye out for the update.
     
  9. Tarot Deck

    Tarot Deck
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    Holy shit

    Perfect reason to play again
     
  10. QisTopTier

    QisTopTier
    Community Resettler Member

    Ok Im buying this next month now finally really nice touch
     
  11. Seven Force

    Seven Force
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    Actually, that's a new animation altogether! The unused one was a little different.
     
  12. Damn, this is a nice update! Having stage transitions on all stages is really appreciated.
     
  13. Phonomezer

    Phonomezer
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    Is the original version of the boss they changed still available to play?
     
  14. Ferrs

    Ferrs
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    So this is not leaked Plus stuff, just an update?

    I need it now if so!
     
  15. waffleman

    waffleman
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    Does anyone know if they added back the Dunkey "hyeh" easter egg in Hydrocity Zone? Some update removed it from the game.

    EDIT: Easter egg in question:


    EDIT 2: Just tested it out in the switch version, though I don't think that was updated. It works, and investigation into the YouTube comments seems to point out that it was never removed from the switch version. Idk, the removal could have been a hoax, all that matters is that it is in the game (at least for the switch).
     
  16. Noroi_Kisaragi

    Noroi_Kisaragi
    Banned Member

    uhhhhhhhhhhh

    did they take out the metal sonic boss?
    huge WTF if true
     
  17. NotLiquid

    NotLiquid
    Member

    No fucking way. They brought back
    Metal Sonic Kai from Chaotix?
     
  18. Zonic

    Zonic
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    It seems that just the final part of the Metal Sonic battle is different now. I want to say everything before it is still the same/
     
  19. Spinluck

    Spinluck
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    Time for another play through.
     
  20. Noroi_Kisaragi

    Noroi_Kisaragi
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    man, really hating the fact digital games can change stuff like this making it impossible for new players to jump in and try the previous versions
     
  21. stan423321

    stan423321
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    It's an unintentionally released and retracted update that... we don't actually know what it really is supposed to be. The time window for that is pretty much over, unless you plan on stealing someone's PS4 (or you have one and got the thing loaded).
     
  22. Dusk Golem

    Dusk Golem
    Local Horror Enthusiast Moderator OP

    It doesn't include the Sonic Mania Plus new content (not to mention Plus content is DLC for previous owners, so there's that), so I think it is planned to just be an update, but might've released it a bit early unintentionally in one territory. They maybe were planning to release it alongside Mania Plus releasing or something, but it's a nice update all around.
     
  23. Jbourne

    Jbourne
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    Good, that boss fight was garbage. Made me drop the game for months, although I went back a couple weeks ago and used a guide to get past it. First time I've ever had to look up how to play a Sonic game.

    I might just start over from the beginning now that they've put out such a substantial patch.
     
  24. I've been incredibly frustrated with the boss of FBZ for months now and its putting me off carrying on with the game.
     
  25. RagnarokX

    RagnarokX
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    So far none of these changes have been for the worse. That boss fight was just bad. It made no sense from a gameplay perspective and looked half-finished.
     
  26. maximumzero

    maximumzero
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    I don't remember what the Metal Sonic boss used to be. Anyone got a "before" video?
     
  27. Noroi_Kisaragi

    Noroi_Kisaragi
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    no, i actually liked that bossfight.
    the pressure from the spikes and the metal sonic and the racing, it felt difficult and challenging.

    what we are noticing is subjective perceptions. it would be nice to have the option to do the original fight
     
  28. shadowman16

    shadowman16
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    Yeah, as much as that new boss looks much better than what it was initially (in my opinion), I'd much rather have the option to play the original level and the remixed level just for completeness sake. The team that made Mania are top guys though, so I'd expect they'll put an option in to at least fight the original boss from a sub menu or something.
     
  29. stan423321

    stan423321
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    I don't see what's supposed to be weird about this. Sega isn't particularly shameful about references to this whole thing by themselves - at least when compared to other things - I don't see why fans would.

    I can see your point. What used to have happened was arguably worse though, with region-specific revisions and such. And the game's on PC, so as long as someone breaks that Denuvo...

    I mean, this is the most obvious scenario, but it's not exactly confirmed. This may be Mania's equivalent of Sonic 3C protos or whatever that thing should be called.
     
  30. Dusk Golem

    Dusk Golem
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    The original (time stamped to where the previous 'final phase' was):

     
  31. Seven Force

    Seven Force
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    Didn't hate that part of the fight, but it was definitely lacking compared to the other forms. The new one looks like a trade up.
     
  32. stan423321

    stan423321
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    Geez, mods, I can see why you're transplanting those posts, but that's a terrible title.

    I recommend "Sonic Mania update leaked on some PS4s".
     
  33. Very, very cool.
     
  34. roguesquirrel

    roguesquirrel
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    Did they replace the whole race or just the last phase of the metal sonic fight
     
  35. maximumzero

    maximumzero
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    Oh bummer, I thought that boss was really neat.
     
  36. Arkeband

    Arkeband
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    Yeah, the stage transitions and letting people use unlockable abilities is great, but changing boss fights is some FFXV shit.
     
  37. SPRidley

    SPRidley
    Member

    Have they changed the fucking octopus boss?
     
  38. Dusk Golem

    Dusk Golem
    Local Horror Enthusiast Moderator OP

    Only the last phase of the boss, the rest is the same.
     
  39. Seven Force

    Seven Force
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    Only the very last phase was changed.
     
  40. RagnarokX

    RagnarokX
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    You shouldn't be fighting regular Metal Sonic. He's made for racing. And if you are going to have a direct fight with Metal you don't do a phase right beforehand that's basically the same except you couldn't touch him. Why can you hit him now but not then? The spike wall looked horrible and should have at minimum been Eggman chasing with his laser. The fight was also too easy/simple and felt tacked on and underwhelming compared to phase 2.
     
  41. Time for a replay before Plus then. Just waiting for it to hit Switch.
     
  42. Professor Beef

    Professor Beef
    YOU WANNA GO DUMB, I'LL GO DUMB WITH YOU Moderator

    Holy shit, those are amazing changes all-around. Can't think of a single criticism.
     
  43. low-G

    low-G
    Member

    Not gonna miss the Metal Sonic last part previous version one fucking bit. That was shit gameplay for the sake of nostalgia only.
     
  44. roguesquirrel

    roguesquirrel
    Member

    okay cool. thats my favorite boss fight in the game and the op trying to dance around spoilers didnt give a clear view on it. was worried my favorite moment in the game got ruined
     
  45. Delriach

    Delriach
    Designer at Iron Galaxy Studios Verafied

    I hope there's an option to play stage music when you're Super.
     
  46. StarPhlox

    StarPhlox
    Member

    Wow these are GREAT changes overall, especially changing what was I think the worst boss fight in that game by far. Awesome job and an easy $10 upgrade to one of my favorite games of 2017 and the best Sonic ever.
     
  47. Saikyo

    Saikyo
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    Maybe the revamped boss was they testing content for encore mode.

    Anyway the update was pulled, It wasnt intended for release.
     
  48. Jaded Alyx

    Jaded Alyx
    Member

    That boss fight was legitimately terrible. Even after beating it, I still don't know exactly wtf I was "supposed" to do.
     
  49. MondoMega

    MondoMega
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    Has anyone with the patch checked if Super Sonic has proper sprites for zone-specific obstacles? One of the tiny things that annoyed me about the game, but since they addressed other issues it possible they fixed this too.
     
  50. Ginger Hail

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    I already knew Plus was going to warrant at least another playthrough, but this all sounds/looks great!