Maybe it's a fusion of both! I don't recall the Saturn having 4 ports on it mind you ^^;
I threw together a playlist of every single Sonic mix from the series for a friend a while ago, which I don't think I ever posted here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJqcwtJOW8w&list=PLF1W0xSS-RF25oRJAeADlQO_YufE687UJ&index=2&t=0s
Have we heard anything on if Mario and Sonic 2020 will be bringing back the dream events? If I remember right those were missing from the last entry
Like...next year maybe
On onehand Forces was so bad I think they ran out of chances. On the other hand Forces was so bad, they sort of have to do something new so I'm intriguedI'm really worried about how this game is going to turn out :(
They are in a weird spot. Forces has effectively turned people off of boost and classic sonic in modern sonic games. This in combination with mania existing has caused certain sections of more casual fans, former fans and super fans of of say the adventure era to go " Why can't we also just get the thing we want " . Which is a good question we will get back to. Adding onto that, there's been a rise of interest in remaking and reengaging with old video game content and the desire to see adventure remakes and a return to that form has risen in general and kinda desire to see sonic's friends back because now that we have been though years of them being gone everyone realized it wasn't them and they had been gone so long they wrapped back around to being fondly remembered.On onehand Forces was so bad I think they ran out of chances. On the other hand Forces was so bad, they sort of have to do something new so I'm intrigued
Sonic is a cockroach. It can't dieThey are in a weird spot. Forces has effectively turned people off of boost and classic sonic in modern sonic games. This in combination with mania existing has caused certain sections of more casual fans, former fans and super fans of of say the adventure era to go " Why can't we also just get the thing we want " . Which is a good question we will get back to. Adding onto that, there's been a rise of interest in remaking and reengaging with old video game content and the desire to see adventure remakes and a return to that form has risen in general and kinda desire to see sonic's friends back because now that we have been though years of them being gone everyone realized it wasn't them and they had been gone so long they wrapped back around to being fondly remembered.
Its a sorta early 00's powder keg we got going.
So like the issue is like... for the past forever in a half their stance on that was " we are done with that " but its clear they realized what the room is saying so they have been slowly at their own pace trying to go back into that direction. Poorly. And the people look at mania and go " Why can't we just have the thing we want in 3d" its a good question. You don't gotta make a sonic adventure 3, nor do I want that but like a cool fun 3d sonic with some other playable dudes...sounds like a cool time.
While all that's happening, people are developing fan engines. And initially these are largely uninteresting and just physic's test. And then recently they got VERY Interesting. There are levels, with level designs. There are multiple playable characters with different abilities. There's one where while the engine only has sonic and shadow playable feels better than all the boost games.... It might feel better than every 3d sonic. And shadow has time stop abilities. Now obviously these are not whole games and those things take time.
But I feel like sonic team is in a weird place and i'm intruiged as to where its going, because we are quickly approaching a point where the answer to " Why can't we just get the thing they want " is... sonic team and sega management. Because I dunno, if someone decides "... hey screw this i'm going to just put in my own characters and make a game" and it feels better than every 3d sonic that exists. And those characters actually have good designs. I think its at the point where it will just eat sonic's lunch. They are quickly reaching a point where they have to justify their own existence.
Instantaneously, no. Because no one has ever entered the exact same like aesthetic market as he has sucesfully. Even if someone does, sonic is still is a name right , people know him. However as demonstrated with game sales you can't ride the wave of notoriety forever. But more so , if someone decides to go "hey I liked 3d sonic I liked its characters I'm going to try and capture that feeling because I can't really get that in modern sonic. And successfully does , sonic's marketshare is gonna erode. Like there are some adults who grew up with him who will always have a fondness but they aren't the primary audience. Its kids, kids are fickle.
I really hope so.
I wouldn't say it is. Because crash has been largely absent and crashes games when they were coming out... weren't horribly embarrassing. Crash largely went away for a very long period of time and them came back selling millions of copies because those remakes were good. Now To be fair to you, they are remakes. Activisions says they are investing in more crash and spyro and when its Original content maybe people vacate en masse. That could be true, that has happened in other forms of media. But I don't think so. They are gonna remember those recent good games and buy the new good game..
Village I really do not see how Crash has its name more built through quality than Sonic. Yes, Crash had three really good games (1, 2 and XS) but it also had a lot of middling (e.g. Crash 3-5) or outright bad (Crash of the Titans and Crash Fusion) games. This is in fact pretty similar to the Sonic situation.
Crash 3 sold gangbusters and is considered one of the best PSX games of all time, come on.I really hope so.
Currently I am playing Team Sonic Racing and I am surprised at how (very) difficult the game is. I initially expected a more casual approach than Transformed, but Team Sonic Racing is similarly tough, right from the get-go. It is also a lot of fun, so this is certainly not a complaint, but the game will definitely take much more time than I anticipated. Only downside so far, in my eyes, is that the items have a stronger impact than in Transformed.
Village I really do not see how Crash has its name more built through quality than Sonic. Yes, Crash had three really good games (1, 2 and XS) but it also had a lot of middling (e.g. Crash 3-5) or outright bad (Crash of the Titans and Crash Fusion) games. This is in fact pretty similar to the Sonic situation.
It's not like embarassingly bad games are a common occurence for Sonic. Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric, as well as Sonic Blast are the ones that would come to mind in my view. Considering how much larger Sonic is when compard to Crash - which still has the similarly bad Crash Fusion - I do not think this should make all that much of a difference. Sonic has quite a lot of games with middling (or worse) reception though, but outright embarassingly bad is not something I would call many Sonic games.Because crash has been largely absent and crashes games when they were coming out... weren't horribly embarrassing.
I wasn't talking sales. Crash 3 has like 40% junk content and the other 60% are not nearly as tight as Crash 1 & 2. With 40% junk content it could well be part of the Sonic Adventure series.Crash 3 sold gangbusters and is considered one of the best PSX games of all time, come on.
See I agree with this. If sonic just started putting out consistent 3d bangers, they only people would be complaining is old heads wanting to start shit. I just don't have any faith in the people in charge to be able to do that.People have a very short attention span. They've forgotten already about the bad Crash games since the N'Sane Trilogy and CTR were so praised. Same thing can happen with Sonic, they just have to stop putting out turds (in fact, they almost made it after public opinion started to change with Colors and Generations, but then Lost World, Boom and Forces happened.
It's not like embarassingly bad games are a common occurence for Sonic. Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric, as well as Sonic Blast are the ones that would come to mind in my view.
I agree that Shadow, 06, Black Knight and the Wii U Boom are bad games (Chronicles as well, but that's definitely a spin-off), but I do not think Shadow and Black Knight match the discriptor "embarassingly bad". The 3DS Boom games, Heroes, Lost World and, of course and especially Sonic Unleashed I would claim are still servicable, good, or, in the case of Unleashed, even great games. But yes, the public perception is different.shadow, 06, secret rings, black knight, forces, all the sonic boom games, chronicles. people weren't big on heroes or lost world either, even if they don't reach the sheer abyssal quality of the others. even unleashed is considered a steaming turd to a lot of people (unfairly, but, you know). pretty much the only sonic games from the past 20 years with a positive reputation are, what? mania, colors, generations? maybe rush?
That's why I'm so sad with the current state of the franchise. The only possible good thing I can see on the horizon is maybe a Mania 2 but I'm afraid they can somehow manage to screw even that up.See I agree with this. If sonic just started putting out consistent 3d bangers, they only people would be complaining is old heads wanting to start shit. I just don't have any faith in the people in charge to be able to do that.
They are gonna make Generations 2 but with fixed 2D physics. Too scared and cheap to make anything else, and gives them some baseline guarantee of successThat's why I'm so sad with the current state of the franchise. The only possible good thing I can see on the horizon is maybe a Mania 2 but I'm afraid they can somehow manage to screw even that up.
Though, as I said earlier, the franchise is in a weird spot now. We don't see a lot of games and all of them are budget titles. And I feel that Sonic Team truly does not want to make Sonic games anymore and would rather try something new.
I feel like this is what we were saying about Forces.They are gonna make Generations 2 but with fixed 2D physics. Too scared and cheap to make anything else, and gives them some baseline guarantee of success
Yeah, they took it for granted last time but won't againI feel like this is what we were saying about Forces.
I don't think the current team is really capable of making a good game in that vein.
In day 0 make it play like revengence but with witch time
I mean, I always say you can make whatever you want as long as it's good.
I'm still skeptical of the current team still being the same with the whole restructured news regarding SoJ post-release of Forces. It wouldn't surprise me if the staff leading the next Sonic project for 2021 are different.don't think the current team is really capable of making a good game in that vein.
Transformers devestation had speed system, I could see it
That's the thing though, forces ruined the garuntee. It ruined all the garuntees except the the two things the took chances on. The least reads " Other playable guy, character customization and a couple of the levels looked kinda cool " and the ones that looked cool were the ones that were non traditional. They cannot go back to their usual wells. Its why iizuka's been talking about remakes and shit and the last racing games was so sonic heroes inspired.I feel like this is what we were saying about Forces.
I don't think the current team is really capable of making a good game in that vein.
I would totally be done with " This team remakes sa1 and 2 to see if they can hack it and if they can give em more shit "I'm in the camp of "Outside US team makes Unreal Engine remake of Sonic Adventure, bigger and brighter for modern audiences, which is why they brought back Hiroshi Nishiyama, hopefully they're treated better than BigRedButton, while Somebody starts work on the big new approach to Sonic that will come much later".
Which Green Hill?Emerald Hill=Angel Island=Mushroom Hill>Green Hill>Seaside Hill
The question is how much would you remake. Adventure series is ambitious in scope, graphics, and story. You could do obvious fixes like get the physics right, remove bugs, fix the radar in SA2, stuff like that. But what aboutcutscenes and voice acting? Gonna keep all 6 stories? It's so much work. And it's a shame they stopped putting that much effort in their games. (Besides unleashed)I would totally be done with " This team remakes sa1 and 2 to see if they can hack it and if they can give em more shit "
Also you know chao world in hd and shit
'The question is how much would you remake. Adventure series is ambitious in scope, graphics, and story. You could do obvious fixes like get the physics right, remove bugs, fix the radar in SA2, stuff like that. But what aboutcutscenes and voice acting? Gonna keep all 6 stories? It's so much work. And it's a shame they stopped putting that much effort in their games. (Besides unleashed)
Yes'
Are you asking me or in general. Because if you are asking me. I have two very specific answers for both of those games
Uh I'll try and do both then. Oh boy get ready for lotta words