Fascinating how two short words can be enough to get homophobes riled up to the point that they feel the need to out themselves publically. Feels almost too easy. I hope he never stops and that we'll keep seeing conversations on the topic on here so the resident homophobes can catch the ban they deserve.
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Sonicfox: "I'm gay"
- Thread starter Professor Beef
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A common complaint that I've heard throughout the ages is the whole "I don't have a problem with it but i wish they wouldn't shove it down out throats" kind of reasoning. This could explain some of the responses to this whole thing. I think what a lot of non queer/LGBT <insert any letters I've missed here cause they are always adding new ones> people struggle to realise is that from the other side the typical heterosexual norm (if you will) is literally constantly being shoved down everyone's throats at all times. Even something as simple as the standard assumption that everyone is straight. Queer people never just come out the once, it's something that has to be constantly reiterated, i guess some people's response or rebellion to that is to become much more overt and unapologetic about it, which, great, you do you.
As a younger gay man i placed a lot more importance on my sexuality than i do now, generally i think there's (hopefully!) much more interesting things about me other than who i choose to fuck but i totally get someone who's a bit younger feeling kind of stifled like that wanting to shout it from the rooftops. The furry thing i'm less keen on because in all honesty i find it kind of weird and maybe that's my prejudice showing, the only thing i'll say about that is that i came to that conclusion by hanging out with some furries at a furmeet so maybe it was them in particular that makes me feel this rather than the fandom as a whole. But hey, if he's not hurting anyone who really gives a shit, anyone who doesn't wanna see gay or furry things doesn't need to follow him.
As a younger gay man i placed a lot more importance on my sexuality than i do now, generally i think there's (hopefully!) much more interesting things about me other than who i choose to fuck but i totally get someone who's a bit younger feeling kind of stifled like that wanting to shout it from the rooftops. The furry thing i'm less keen on because in all honesty i find it kind of weird and maybe that's my prejudice showing, the only thing i'll say about that is that i came to that conclusion by hanging out with some furries at a furmeet so maybe it was them in particular that makes me feel this rather than the fandom as a whole. But hey, if he's not hurting anyone who really gives a shit, anyone who doesn't wanna see gay or furry things doesn't need to follow him.
Eeeeeh I think it's a bit dangerous to put bigotry and not liking furry stuff altogether.
Agreed for the rest though :")
Prejudice is prejudice. It's in the word.
If he isn't harming anyone no one has any business judging him.
Not talking about judging here. I'll give a quick exemple:
If someone's a racist, even if they don't say it, there's something inherently wrong with racism. Even if you don't express it.
If someone's an homophobe, even if they don't say it, there's something inherently wrong with homophobia. Even if you don't express it.
Furry though ? Isn't it like anime ?
To them it's something they really like and to folks who don't care then why should it bother them? Like why be bothered about what people are wearing?
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I know, it's stupid to be bothered by that, but I just think it shouldn't be put altogether with racism and homophobia.
Not just his likes, i'm pretty sure he's straight up retweeted furry porn (including some of his own fursona.) on multiple occasions.
Not really my thing, but i gotta respect him for being wild enough to be horny on main while also being a viable e-sports player.
It's not uncommon for bigots to dislike someone just because they're different. The furry part is just icing and additional ammo on their white bigoted cakes.
At the end of the day conservatives can't stand those who are different from themselves and feel the need to single out those who expressed themselves differently and force them into categories and closets that they like.
Prejudice can stem from being an enthusiast about something just as much as it can stem from being racist, homophobic, etc.
Furries are incredibly loathed and often faced with accusations of mental illness, beastiality, pedophilia and other things, some downright vile, even here on ResetEra, a forum that prides itself on being a more left-leaning, progressive community. You have people literally laughing at, for instance, furry convention goers being injured by a gas attack at that convention.
So yes, if someone thinks furries are all mentally ill animal-fuckers, even if they don't say it, there's something inherently wrong about their perception of that community.
That's not even to mention that a vast majority of the furry community are LGBTQ+ anyway.
At a base level I feel that with things like race and sexual orientation being more inherent properties of a person it's more vile to demonize them for that than for something they chose to adopt.
Don't get me wrong though, going after people for something the are or do as long as they are not harming others is awful any way you slice it.
So I'm still debating if this distinction is actually meaningful.
Don't get me wrong though, going after people for something the are or do as long as they are not harming others is awful any way you slice it.
So I'm still debating if this distinction is actually meaningful.
I don't know how anyone can take PkRussl seriously. He's essentially the fandom's version of Ian Miles Cheong. Dude will legit play devil's advocate to the point of defending an animal rapist (he did this!).
Also it's really funny that the people complaining about him making his sexuality part of his personality are "gamers". Being gay can't be part of his personality but I guess the fact you played Half Life 10 times is?
Also it's really funny that the people complaining about him making his sexuality part of his personality are "gamers". Being gay can't be part of his personality but I guess the fact you played Half Life 10 times is?
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It really isn't, I'd argue. Assholes will find the most asinine shit about someone they want to dislike, so whether it's because he's black, gay or likes wearing a blue fox mask, it's well within his right to push back against it and be who he wants to be.
jeez, people are triggered by the most ridiculous things eh. I love Sonicfox's attitude but its sad that he is getting respect for not being ashamed to just be himself. It shouldn't be some incredible act to be proud of who you are but that's society at the moment. I hope that he will be an inspiration to people who society shine just because of their sexual orientation, their race or their gender. We are all different, people need to be proud of who they are.
SonicFox continues to be the best.
He's genuine. He is who he is and he puts himself out there. He does not give a fuck.
Dude is anything but wholesome.
He's genuine. He is who he is and he puts himself out there. He does not give a fuck.
Sonicfox is a treasure, we seriously don't deserve someone like him. I remember seeing a Twitter thread that was just like "this is why people hate him" and it just him saying he's gay. Like fuck that guy for being proud of who he is am I right.
There are some toxic furries no doubt, but before you have your mind made up about the idea of furries itself being weird, keep in mind that some of the LEAST hateful and power-hungry people you will meet identify that way, and it's also relevant to point out that some of the oldest human art in the archeological record portrays images of animal/human anamorphic beings depicted in many ways (including sexual), so it's not like a socially constructed fetish or something that exists because of bad porn or creepy cartoons - it has been a thing as long as modern humans have.
And like you said, it's harmless and only one part of someone's personality, even as far as their sexual identity is concerned. I think the kneejerk response from someone like us who isn't a furry is almost like "so you want to fuck puppies and cartoons and shit?" but in reality from what I gather it has nothing to do with beastiality and is mainly about an animal to some extent being a sort of spiritual expression of yourself as a human, not necessarily wanting to bang said animal, and this has taken many positive forms throughout many cultures across human history.
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I don't understand why it's so hard for that dude to just unfollow and/or ignore him.
"I hate seeing this thing which I'm perfectly capable of not seeing it if I wanted to but I'm going to engage with it even more by doing this and this because that will make everything right?"
If anything his reaction gave even more spotlight to SonicFox, which is great.
"I hate seeing this thing which I'm perfectly capable of not seeing it if I wanted to but I'm going to engage with it even more by doing this and this because that will make everything right?"
If anything his reaction gave even more spotlight to SonicFox, which is great.
Never watched his streams but i hope he doesnt stop telling people he's gay. He is proud about it and that is great.
I remember a few days ago I was laughing my ass off when someone claimed that Sonicfox's writing "I'm gay" was one of the reason homophobia exists.
Yup. That's the reason. My god some people are dumber than a rock. Actually I'm not sure if they are THAT intelligent.
Also aren't fursuits expensive as fuck? With the price they have you bet your ass I would wear it everywhere I would go regardless if people find it 'rude' (what?) or not.
Yup. That's the reason. My god some people are dumber than a rock. Actually I'm not sure if they are THAT intelligent.
Also aren't fursuits expensive as fuck? With the price they have you bet your ass I would wear it everywhere I would go regardless if people find it 'rude' (what?) or not.
"We wouldn't hate the filthy homosexuals if they stayed completely silent and invisible, and married the opposite sex, and gave every sign of being straight!"
Such a stupid line of thinking.
Yeah, this is the same "don't ask, don't tell" shit as ever. If someone is bothered by people outing themselves as gay, they're homophobic, it's really not rocket science. And they're also either ignorant or unappreciative (or, well, both) of the long stretches in history (and the many countries today) where outing oneself as gay could lead to repercussions up to and including death.
Tolerance and acceptance at their finest indeed.
Tolerance and acceptance at their finest indeed.
Always cracks me up seeing people follow him only to get hit with the fanart overheads
Agreed, straight men really need to stop holding their girlfriends' hands in public and talking about girls in a way that basically shoves their sex lives in your face.
It's like, I'm glad you're happy, but I didn't need to visualize you burying your wiener in your woman's sloppy meat pocket while her nipples are out and everything. Keep that to yourself.
Straights are cool though. I work with a few of them and I swear you wouldn't even know they were straight--if they didn't go on about it all the time like it's something to be proud of. I don't mean that in a bad way, of course. You do you, you know?
I'm probably one of the most tolerant people out there when it comes to straight people's lifestyle choices. The other day my straight friend said she just found out she was pregnant, and I was so proud of the way I didn't make some kind of face. She made things pretty weird by sharing that, but it's probably not her fault. Who knows how she was raised.
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Well, society and media in general are always pushing a certain sort of "norm" down people's throats. This "norm" usually skews straight and white, I mean, just watch any number of ads/soap operas/movies or whatever. So the emphasis of self-affirmation from LGBT folks seems to me like a response to that.
I'm struggling to come out to my parents as straight. It's pretty obvious, but I think they're in denial. I kind of talk and dress a bit straight, and I may have accidentally left some straight porn in the browser history on the family computer, but I overhead them saying something about it being a phase. I'm just worried they'll send me to one of those "pray away the straight" camps.
In all seriousness, I don't follow fighting games, eSports in general or SonicFox, but I love that he's out there being gay, furry, black and fierce AF. Gaming needs more people like this IMO.
Love how this started by people rallying behind PKRussel, a dude who gets off to underage drawings of animal people and defends bestiality.
This is a person people who are angry at SonicFox would stand behind all because he says he's gay "too many times".
Everyone of them are hacks.
This is a person people who are angry at SonicFox would stand behind all because he says he's gay "too many times".
Everyone of them are hacks.
It's really annoying when people tell you you should not express the fact that you're gay. I just tell them to fuck off. It's my life, my body, my voice. None of those people pay my bills, so they have nothing to do with it.
I support SonicFox Instance.
I support SonicFox Instance.
Yeah it's probably just a case of me not getting it in an old man yells at cloud kind of way. I think the cartoony style puts me off more than anything, maybe i have some buried memory of a sports mascot scaring me. I had heard that the furry community was welcoming and friendly which is why i thought i would check it out to have at least a better understanding but interestingly the group i met where extremely standoffish and unwelcoming of me as i was considered a "normie" or tourist or whatever in their eyes, which being part of a minority i found kind of funny in all sorts of ways. Finally, i'm quote unquote normal! But yeah, i dont pretend to think that this group represents them as a whole.
I'm not really familiar with SonicFox other than that he plays fighting games professionally. But i couldn't care less if he is gay, bi, straight or whatever.
I don't define a person by their sexual orientation and i don't think it's that big of a deal, but who am i to talk. Maybe it's because germany is such a progressive country that being gay is nothing special here it's just how people are and i'm ok with it.
I don't define a person by their sexual orientation and i don't think it's that big of a deal, but who am i to talk. Maybe it's because germany is such a progressive country that being gay is nothing special here it's just how people are and i'm ok with it.
That's great
But unfortunately the reality is homophobes and other bigots are real and will always hate Sonicfox just for existing, and why he needs to say it, for pride, and for solidarity with other victims of hatred
Of course always claiming that you're gay will brings bigots to shit on you.
That's why he shouldn't stop, being offended by someone who's proud of his sexual orientation is proof that you're a moron. Who cares about who people are attracted to? Like, mind your own fucking business.
And as he said, he's black too, perfect mix to attract these kinds of motherfuckers.
Keep slaying, Fox.
That's why he shouldn't stop, being offended by someone who's proud of his sexual orientation is proof that you're a moron. Who cares about who people are attracted to? Like, mind your own fucking business.
And as he said, he's black too, perfect mix to attract these kinds of motherfuckers.
Keep slaying, Fox.
Wonder why all the gay people in the world don't go to germany if it doesn't have homophobia at all