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Sony and MS reportedly lost the fear of Stadia after seeing the disastrous launch of the console
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Then you think about what if that means less push for gamepass and xcloud./Psnow now.
The direct competition.
will money move around now for other things?
still need to think about it
The direct competition.
will money move around now for other things?
still need to think about it
Even with Google's history of canceling products, Sony/Microsoft would be utterly foolish to disregard a Google-backed games platform. The actual launch of stadia turned out to be laughable, but to not give Google any respect would be insane, and you saw that with the service upgrades to now and game pass.
And even today, if you think Google can't throw enough time and money at stadia to make it successful you're insane. Will they do that? who knows, but they could.
And even today, if you think Google can't throw enough time and money at stadia to make it successful you're insane. Will they do that? who knows, but they could.
Don't see why they wouldn't initially be terrified of a company with the resources of Google trying to break into the gaming market. Of course, Google then made the mistake of hiring Phil Harrison of the PS3 and Xbox One launches.
being 'scared' is obviously clickbait, but they were definately wary of googles oodles of money to blow, and they probably still are
I can see the memes now. Photoshop artists...prepare yourselves."They should be terrified of you..."
Seriously these are mega corporations, Xbox is a nothingburger to their bottom line
Gaming cloud is probably seen as a huge growth opportunity. Azure is the driver to Microsoft's current growth.
The fact that they launched without a Stadia Studios developed game shows how rushed it was. Once that game is ready in 2 or 3 years I'm not sure it will have a viable platform to launch on.
I doubt that they are as of now. If anything, it should be the other way around, especially if both PS5 & Xbox 4 are going to launch at $500+.
"They should be terrified of you..."
Wasn't the line terrified for you? :p
We've seen similar kinds of tech disruption in other industries. This one is being backed by one of the tech giants. Its quite rational to think they would have been wary, especially if the Stadia launch actually did go well.
Google certainly has the resources to make a service like this viable, and streaming will, at some point, be a very viable avenue to play games. It's reasonable to fear them. Getting in on the ground floor and sucking up that userbase would make it harder for MS/Sony to penetrate that market.
Unfortunately, Google bungled the launch and arguably, the business model they chose is simply not appealing to a lot of people.
This was understandable from my pov. That said out of the 3 console makers Nintendo should have been the most worried about Google's entry because their platform was a direct challenge to their play anywhere approach. Google could never match Nintendo's first party output but the fact is that half of Nintendo's revenue still comes from 3rd party royalties.
If Google offered a very stable 1440p 30 fps experience on both your phone and TV (regardless of the fact they might not support the resolution) and since Google allowed 3rd parties to charge separately from the platform those who were attracted to the Switch due to the portable console factor and indies always looking for a new platform where they could shine above the rest were the most at risk of adopting Google's vision.
Yeah, I think Jason got the timeline a bit wrong here.
They were probably scared of the entry of a Google console. Physical, living room based hardware with killer specs - subsidized by Google - and global distribution.
They probably lost that fear as soon as it became clear Google was chasing an all-streaming solution. Well before launch.
They were probably scared of the entry of a Google console. Physical, living room based hardware with killer specs - subsidized by Google - and global distribution.
They probably lost that fear as soon as it became clear Google was chasing an all-streaming solution. Well before launch.
I doubt that streaming within gaming will take off like a lot of people think that it will, especially in the US.
Shit like data caps will ensure of that.
Shit like data caps will ensure of that.
You would need unlimited data for mobile phones. 720p, 4.5gb/hour. Yeah.
I mean it really depends on *when* they were terrified. I imagine their research folks had their hands on Google's project stream of AC:O, which was VERY impressive. And Google made some big promises at E3.
But in the last few months? Nah, it's become obvious that Google was going to botch this launch royally.
But in the last few months? Nah, it's become obvious that Google was going to botch this launch royally.
There is no reason for them to be worried now, tbh. They are both way better positioned for streaming and the traditional console business than Google.
You know about 3 days after the stadia launch I forgot about it. I don't know what that says but it really doesn't have a top of mind mentality for me.
This is clearly about their gaming divisions specifically so I think your point is pretty dumb
If Google had a strong lineup, all future Nintendo consoles will just be a Nintendo exclusive machine.
They were right to be scared. Google is nothing to sneeze at and has Microsoft levels of money to throw at something they want to work.
Yep, the Stadia streaming tech is impressive but everything else surrounding Stadia's launch has been a monumental disaster. For the public active player numbers we know, Stadia has been far from a sales success.
I get the sense that internally Stadia was pitched as a low-risk thing because they already had the cloud infrastructure, and that everything else would just fall into place with little effort. It seemed like a strong product until it was launched and the actual extents of the product became publically visible.
It surely didn't last up until the launch, it's been clear for months Google didn't really know what they were doing.
1-It's not a console
2-If you're gonna link an article, you should link to the original Kotaku article instead of the Eurogamer piece that is just quoting the original article without adding anything just to steal some clicks away.
3-Duh... Of course
I doubt that Sony and MS aren't worried about Stadia, they just feel they can talk about their products without having to explain why they're better now.
Once Stadia base launches I have a feeling the tide will turn. The launch has not been perfect, but it's a great product that works really well. I've already decided that if Cyberpunk comes out on the same day as the console launch I'm going to cancel my PS4 pre-order and get it on Stadia.
Once Stadia base launches I have a feeling the tide will turn. The launch has not been perfect, but it's a great product that works really well. I've already decided that if Cyberpunk comes out on the same day as the console launch I'm going to cancel my PS4 pre-order and get it on Stadia.
Terrified is obviously an exaggeration but why wouldn't the company that's in distant third place be worried by another huge tech company entering the market and throwing money around? Similarly, Sony were probably less concerned about the short term (2020 and PS5 launch) and more concerned about the long term.
It's a console you rent, that lives in a server farm.
Same. I can't think of another launch from any company of note that felt this DoA. Like you'd have to go back to the Virtual Boy.
As long you can't play COD, FIFA, NBA2K, Madden, Rockstar games, most new AAA games on Switch it never be able to replace PS or Xbox for a huge segment of the gaming population. So there is nothing to be afraid of. They serve different needs.
While true, I doubt that a lot of average consumers are going to shell out $500 w/tax on a PS5 or on a Xbox 4. That's like their whole paycheck. Maybe with hardcore gamers, but average consumers make up the majority of console sales by a wide margin.
All that Nintendo has to do, is just lower the price of the original Switch by $50 near November next year & people can get 2 Switches for the price of a PS5 or a Xbox 4.