Sony Apologizes for ‘Peter Rabbit’ Movie’s Allergy Scene

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Epipen? Are they getting product placement money from Pfizer and Mylan now? More cartoon violence and less drug advertising in kids movies.
 

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Tom and Jerry violence is cartoonish, with shit like axes and knives and whatnot. There's a difference between that and some guy struggling for his EpiPen.
I don't know. There were some pretty brutally dark episodes of Tom and Jerry like the one where they both kill themselves at the end.
 
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It's actually funny that back in the 80s (and to a lesser extent the 90s) there were all sorts of kids films that had bizarre adult non sequiturs, whether it was swearing (ET), drug use (The Karate Kid), brutal death scenes (Roger Rabbit) or saucy double entendres (literally every kids movie of the era - film-makers love to slip them in).
 

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It sounds like maybe they portray the guy's reaction/suffering way too realistically, but I don't see any problem with this, in concept.
Just sounds like cartoon violence, to me. Looney Toons did way worse, like, every other episode.

Maybe instead of getting shocked that a movie about fictional anthropomorphic creatures that obviously don't have completely human concepts of morality or mortality showed a food allergy as a "weapon" we should just, y'know, teach kids that movies are movies and hurting people is 99% of the time wrong, regardless of method?

This scene doesn't "trivialize" food allergies, though. I mean, a large thrust of the complaint is that they really realistically show the guy reacting to it, right?
 

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I mean this seems a bit overreactive to me. I get where she's coming from, but the movie wasn't doing some vivid personal attack to those with allergies; just using it as plot point
 

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I've seen several allergy jokes in cartoon series though not all of them are aimed at kids. Bob's Burgers had this one with Gene and his allergic reaction to lobster that is played for a joke.



Its actually not that uncommon a joke though I'm not saying people have to like these jokes either.
 

Heath V

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More outrage for outrage sake. Sony should not have apologized but I guess in this political climate they had no choice. I've seen about 10 times worse and Tom in Jerry cartoons.
 

Komarkaze

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Having a scene in a kids movie where a character tries to kill someone via food allergy is highly irresponsible. There have been plenty of news stories of kids with allergies who have been hospitalized or killed by other kids who knew about their food allergies. There was a girl who wiped pineapple on her hand to high five another girl with allergies, sending her to the hospital. A boy last year died because another kid forced him to eat cheese. A playground near me was found to have peanut butter smeared all over the equipment. As a father of a peanut allergy child, this is terrifying. Someone’s sick idea of a prank is someone else’s tragedy. Movies like this targeted to kids does not discourage that kind of shitty behavior at all. It is an all-to-real form of attack that leads to death. No stupid, unimportant scene in a movie is worth it.
 

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So I don’t know if this scene belongs in a movie such as this, but is this really trivializing allergies? I haven’t seen the movie so idk if it was presented in a funny way, but from the description it seems like it’s more showing the horror of allergies? the rabbits cheering over it is fucked up thoiugh.
 

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I've seen several allergy jokes in cartoon series though not all of them are aimed at kids. Bob's Burgers had this one with Gene and his allergic reaction to lobster that is played for a joke.



Its actually not that uncommon a joke though I'm not saying people have to like these jokes either.
I find it hilarious and I have food allergies. I can understand why some people might get triggered by that stuff, but for me, whenever I saw certain characters get revealed to have certain biological flaws, like food allergies or asthma, especially when I was young, I felt I could relate to them even more.
 

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I've seen several allergy jokes in cartoon series though not all of them are aimed at kids. Bob's Burgers had this one with Gene and his allergic reaction to lobster that is played for a joke.



Its actually not that uncommon a joke though I'm not saying people have to like these jokes either.
I do think there's a difference between a joke about food allergies and the protagonists of a children's film weaponizing a food allergy against an opponent. And then celebrating when they think he's dead. It's not a good look.
 

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Yeah that's pretty fucked up. I can imagine the 'people being offended for the sake of it' crowd won't like this but I can see why individual people would be upset. Not that I am or would be. Fair enough saying sorry, doesn't cost anything.

I think with things like this people overreact and get really upset that someone complained but it's just a handful of people in a specific situation. People need to chill.
Only thing wrong with saying sorry to these people is that everyone else expects to hear an apology every time they complain about something... and this just didn't deserve to even get a mention anywhere, let alone an apology from a major film studio.
 

HStallion

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I do think there's a difference between a joke about food allergies and the protagonists of a children's film weaponizing a food allergy against an opponent. And then celebrating when they think he's dead. It's not a good look.
Well most of the allergy jokes I've seen are pretty mean spirited by their very nature. The Bob's Burgers one has Gene continuing to eat Lobster even after he bloats up like a big red balloon and people asking if he needs help and him not getting it until the very end.
 

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I was reading this to my friend who watched the movie, and he said there was a scene when they were joking about the allergy, then broke 4th wall to comment on angry letters.
 

Keldroc

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Well most of the allergy jokes I've seen are pretty mean spirited by their very nature. The Bob's Burgers one has Gene continuing to eat Lobster even after he bloats up like a big red balloon and people asking if he needs help and him not getting it until the very end.
You're not wrong, but I'd say the Peter Rabbit gag takes it a step further. I don't know how someone making that movie watches that scene and doesn't think "Hey this probably won't be fun for a kid who lives with this kind of fear every day."
 

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In the movie do the rabbits know about the allergy beforehand? If they do then that's pretty fucked up.
Having a scene in a kids movie where a character tries to kill someone via food allergy is highly irresponsible. There have been plenty of news stories of kids with allergies who have been hospitalized or killed by other kids who knew about their food allergies. There was a girl who wiped pineapple on her hand to high five another girl with allergies, sending her to the hospital. A boy last year died because another kid forced him to eat cheese. A playground near me was found to have peanut butter smeared all over the equipment. As a father of a peanut allergy child, this is terrifying. Someone’s sick idea of a prank is someone else’s tragedy. Movies like this targeted to kids does not discourage that kind of shitty behavior at all. It is an all-to-real form of attack that leads to death. No stupid, unimportant scene in a movie is worth it.
There's also a scene where the rabbit sets up bear traps in his bed. The rabbit is actively trying to kill him throughout. That's basically the plot of the movie.
 

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Considering its a kids movie perhaps that's not the right message to send to kids. Especially little snots that will think doing this to a classmate would be a funny goof.
 

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Having a scene in a kids movie where a character tries to kill someone via food allergy is highly irresponsible. There have been plenty of news stories of kids with allergies who have been hospitalized or killed by other kids who knew about their food allergies. There was a girl who wiped pineapple on her hand to high five another girl with allergies, sending her to the hospital. A boy last year died because another kid forced him to eat cheese. A playground near me was found to have peanut butter smeared all over the equipment. As a father of a peanut allergy child, this is terrifying. Someone’s sick idea of a prank is someone else’s tragedy. Movies like this targeted to kids does not discourage that kind of shitty behavior at all. It is an all-to-real form of attack that leads to death. No stupid, unimportant scene in a movie is worth it.
This + the fact the stupid scene is completely irrelevant to the story of Peter Rabbit. Just bad filmmaking.
 

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The part about struggling for the Epipen to avoid death from anaphylactic shock does seem to cross the line from slapstick to real world violence.
 

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Maybe I'm dumb, but I think the scene instead of trivializing food allergies is showing how dangerous they are, no?
Allergies are more dangerous than 'you start coughing and need an EpiPen'. They're potientally fatal.

It's just a troubling thing to joke about around kids, who might not have first hand experience with food allergies. While kids are smart enough to know that cartoon violence and real violence are different things, they may not realize just how dangerous it is to give somebody an allergen.
 

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Was wondering why so many people were defending this then I remembered Sony doesn't just make trash tier movies. They also make a game console!

We live in a world where bullies will knowingly expose another child to something that could kill them. Of course this is inappropriate in a kids movie.
 

Komarkaze

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There's also a scene where the rabbit sets up bear traps in his bed. The rabbit is actively trying to kill him throughout. That's basically the plot of the movie.
Do kids have bear traps that they can bring to school every day? Are you actively trying to be dense? Attacking people known to have a food allergy sets a bad example in the real world. Especially if it’s the hero of the story being the asshole.
 

Straight Edge

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Allergies are more dangerous than 'you start coughing and need an EpiPen'. They're potientally fatal.

It's just a troubling thing to joke about around kids, who might not have first hand experience with food allergies. While kids are smart enough to know that cartoon violence and real violence are different things, they may not realize just how dangerous it is to give somebody an allergen.
Yeah I don't get what people aren't understanding. Replace dying from a food allergy with a joke about dying from cancer. Is that a funny joke for kids?