---Hey there,
we will retract this mod post. I believe Galvan had the best intentions here, but I can totally see how this reads as if we do not allow criticism of the controversy surrounding this movie and this specific scene.
All we ask is to do this in a constructive way instead of just mocking people who might have an allergy and take issue with that scene. From my experience our community is more than capable of discussing a topic like this with nuance and respect.
I hope I could clear things up and that we can focus on the topic again, thanks!
Yes. Peter Rabbit was always dark. Hell, Mrs. McGregor cooked his dad in a pie.I was gonna say its been a really long time since I read a Peter Rabbit book but I distinctly remember Farmer McGregor and Peter Rabbit trying to kill each other several times or at least their plans would have resulted in such.
Im sorry, but you must have missed the greatest chlidrens film of all time, Watership Down.The rabbits try to murder someone and cheer. What a great kids' film!
This had to pass through so many approvals, and it's at release they realize it's problematic when told about it.
This sums it up perfectly. Especially for the age group a movie like Peter Rabbit should be targeting.Lets not get the idea food allergies are a joke and its ok to use that kind of thing as a weapon into kids
Yeah, not sure why people were making that analogy and it’s disappointing that people (especially here) would bust out the snowflake/fake outrage stuff. Cartoon violence wasnt the problem.The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
The more I hear about this movie the more I wanna see it.There's also a scene where the rabbit sets up bear traps in his bed. The rabbit is actively trying to kill him throughout. That's basically the plot of the movie.
Are you seriously trying to say that kids have never seen Tom and Jerry/Home alone style pranks in cartoons and movies and done them? That shit is very real and has very much killed kids/ adults in the past. I understand the point you are trying to make but using this of all things to make it?The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
It sounds insane, but I could barely get through the trailer because of James Corden's voice.
That song is horrible and I'm mad I realized it real qyick.Ooh woo, I'm a rebel just for kicks, now
I been feeling it since 1966, now
I mean, people starting eating tide pods because they saw people online doing it. There are no bounds to the stupid stuff people will do without realizing the consequences. Children aren't exempt from that. I do get the outrage though, I could totally see a group of bullies doing this to a kid they know has a food allergy, not realizing the real danger it would put someone inAre you seriously trying to say that kids have never seen Tom and Jerry/Home alone style pranks in cartoons and movies and done them? That shit is very real and has very much killed kids/ adults in the past. I understand the point you are trying to make but using this of all things to make it?
Did you watch Home Alone? Home Alone 2? Home Alone 3?
heh. well....Did you watch Home Alone? Home Alone 2? Home Alone 3?
Or, really, any kid film from the 90s? It's a wonder we're not all sociopaths.
EDIT - Just saw the mod edit - Nvm. Carry onThere's also a scene where the rabbit sets up bear traps in his bed. The rabbit is actively trying to kill him throughout. That's basically the plot of the movie.
So we are basically not allowed to discuss the topic...The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
Thank you for putting this policy in place, it was really discomforting having people joke about a real issue like this.The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
It's nothing alike. No kid will do Tom&Jerry or Home Alone pranks, but they may well slip an allergen into their classmate's food and literally kill them. If you don't see the problem, well, I don't know what to say beyond don't have children.edit: I was posting this before I saw the moderator post above. I'll leave it as I feel it has merit based on what I said about the difference between seeing the scene written down by someone and seeing it for yourself in the movie. But if that's also considered bad or in poor taste then I'll leave it there.
Just sounds like some dark humour to me. Doesn't seem that bad.
It's also really hard to comment on without seeing the scene in question as delivery can VASTLY change how we perceive the scene.
Like the Tom & Jerry comparison earlier in the thread, I'm sure on paper, some of the jokes would make you automatically think "Not appropriate for a kids cartoon" but then you see it and it's not that bad.
Seeing it written down is just different from seeing it played out.
Still, as it stands, I don't think it's that bad but people are different including what we find humourous and what we find appropriate for a kids movie so whatever.
Still, that bit about "Beatrix Potter will be turning in her grave about now" is a bit much considering that assumes they know what she would think about it. Just seems very presumptuous to me. But I've never been a fan of "X turning in their grave" phrases. Mainly for that exact reason.
May I suggest that you simply just lock this thread then ? I mean, you are banning pretty much all discussion so what is the point of this topic on the discussion board if we can't discuss it...The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
If your child watches a cartoon rabbit fire a blackberry into a persons mouth with a slingshot and thinks that's something they want to repeat then you have already failed as a parent.It's nothing alike. No kid will do Tom&Jerry or Home Alone pranks, but they may well slip an allergen into their classmate's food and literally kill them. If you don't see the problem, well, I don't know what to say beyond don't have children.
I would put my potential children to watch Tom&Jerry or Home Alone every time. Not this shit.
What exactly is being downplayed here? Who are we being inconsiderate to?The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
I don't really agree with this, there's much more chance of a kid using a dangerous wrestling move on someone than copying the peter rabbit movie. Sounds like a funny sceneThe line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
K, list some deaths then that have occurred with children doing wrestling moves. We have documented cases of deaths because of children not understanding the severity of deadly allergies.I don't really agree with this, there's as much as much chance as a kid using a dangerous wrestling move on someone than copying the peter rabbit movie. Sounds like a funny scene
Bruh, the problem is not the slingshot. The problem is like, everything else. There are so many inocuous, funny things they could slingshot, but they chose the allergy. You Yould not imagine kids could think that's funny and try ton slip in an allergen to see what happens? Kids have done that in the past, and this isn't helping matters.First time I've seen a moderator on here threaten to ban/warn people for not agreeing with their stance on something.
If your child watches a cartoon rabbit fire a blackberry into a persons mouth with a slingshot and thinks that's something they want to repeat then you have already failed as a parent.
Seriously in a movie of outlandish heinous slap stick violence that’s where we draw the line? I agree with the other posters just lock the thread otherwise it’s seems you just want discussion only condemning the movie.The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
I'm not saying it the allergy thing doesn't happen, I just still don't have a problem with it being a joke in the movie. It is wrong when in a series of unfortunate events the kids self inflict their own peppermint allergy to get out of a situation? I just disagree it is bad to have in the filmK, list some deaths then that have occurred with children doing wrestling moves. We have documented cases of deaths because of children not understanding the severity of deadly allergies.
Why is this simple argument, repeated several times in this thread so hard to understand?
''You can be outraged or get banned, your choice''The line between bear traps in bed-- clearly an example of Home Alone/Tom and Jerry-style cartoon violence-- and weaponizing a food allergy-- a real-life, possibly fatal, danger that actual children have used against each other-- is clear. People downplaying this issue henceforth will be subject to moderator action.
Is it making matters worse?Bruh, the problem is not the slingshot. The problem is like, everything else. There are so many inocuous, funny things they could slingshot, but they chose the allergy. You Yould not imagine kids could think that's funny and try ton slip in an allergen to see what happens? Kids have done that in the past, and this isn't helping matters.
It is a serious and (relatively) common issue. Kids have died or been hospitalized several times in recent years in the UK alone from classmates pulling shit like this, and it's absolutely stupid that it made it into a kid's movie with the protagonist doing it.We're supposed to treat weaponization of food allergies against children as some serious and common problem, when it's clear it's a gag in a children's movie that went unnoticed?
Lol are you serious???K, list some deaths then that have occurred with children doing wrestling moves. We have documented cases of deaths because of children not understanding the severity of deadly allergies.