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Sony CFO: “It'll take much longer than five years for the cloud to make consoles obsolete”
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Smart man. Streaming may be the future in 30 years (I hope it never is), but not next-gen and anyone who focuses on it as a big selling point next-gen is going to find themselves in a Kinect situation.
The internet infrastructure and laws in the United States aren't going to be ready for streaming in 5, 10, or even 15 years.
The internet infrastructure and laws in the United States aren't going to be ready for streaming in 5, 10, or even 15 years.
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The cloud will never eliminate local hardware, but will lower the barrier of entry for gaming, which is always good. Cloud gaming being the only way to game would be lame as hell.
Agree. Sony has the advantage of knowing where cloud game streaming is at atm (PS Now)
If the owner of the most succesful videogame streaming service says so, then I guess the streaming is still far away.
For Sony that's obvious, i don't expect much from their cloud services, that's an area where i can totally see Microsoft having an edge.
It could become an extra source of revenue besides consoles. Nobody has said consoles will become obsolete next gen.
Agreed, the issue lies in one simple fact; it's not a matter of when is the tech ready, because we see it being implemented right now. The problem is when is the infrastructure wide enough so that sales are not going to be lost by moving solely to cloud based computing.
If companies wanted to lower the barrier of entry they could just offer cheap entry level hardware. I don't see them doing that.
With data caps and internet issues world wide it really doesn't matter if it works well. Sony is commenting on mass market penetration
well said. some people are too quick to write off traditional hardware for games. cloud is going to continue expanding, but it's still a long way off from becoming the normal way for consuming video games.
Cloud gaming has so many Asterisks attached to its viability, and most of them have nothing to do with the company offering the streaming service. And most of it can't be solved with smarter algorythms or by deploying more servers.
It will however become a huge part of their revenue stream, that's for sure.
It will however become a huge part of their revenue stream, that's for sure.
Yup... seems like everyone else share the same view since I've never come across any news or rumor about them making cloud gaming as their main platform
Phil Spencer said cloud streaming will be a key point of their conference this year at E3 (which to me suggests the service is coming soon).
He also said it will take time to get perfect and becoming mainstream, but that doesn't mean they are going to wait, the opposite could be true: releasing the service earlier and listening the feedbacks from the community in order to improve it.
Yes..i mean..the lack of reasonable bandwidth access and latency concerns are not going to be solve anytime soon.
ESPECIALLY latency. I can give you a 10gbps connection but all the bandwidth in the world cannot help if the client needs to takes like 20 routing hops across the globe to reach a designated server.
ESPECIALLY latency. I can give you a 10gbps connection but all the bandwidth in the world cannot help if the client needs to takes like 20 routing hops across the globe to reach a designated server.
The cloud is a technology that's at least a decade away from truly replacing consoles, the big switch might happen at earliest in the 10th console generation. But if half of the world still has data caps by then and low speeds we'll still get hardware boxes as an option. Sony especially makes a lot of money from smaller and emerging markets where Nintendo and MS haven't penetrated. Usually it's these places lagging behind technologically but even in the US the issue with data caps/net neutrality remain.
Yup. Still can't believe some people think it's happening soon though. At least 10 years before streaming games becomes the norm.
It'll be neatly integrated into all thier clients as an option, but they have their Azure talent helping out so I'm expecting big things from them.
Exactly.
We don't know that as a fact yet. We just know public trials are this year.
But the streaming console will arrive later, not at launch
2 gens from now it will become more prevalent
LOL 30 years ?
Well before that bro !
Do you know where we were 30 years ago ? 1989, the NES era, I think Gaming has evolve a bit... in 30 years, streaming will be as mainstream as the D pad today...
If only Sony had the foresight to see the same tepid response to VR before diving in. Some 3 million units sold over 90 million console users.
Probably should have waited another 30 years to launch a headset ...
And I don't think any company has said that streaming is the only means to play games or that streaming replaces local hardware. In fact, it's been the total opposite.
Seems the entire industry is on the same page regarding potential viability and adoption.
None is going to focus on Cloud for next-gen and lol at Streaming may be the future in 30 years
Streaming works inside a eco system of consumer options , but has no validity as the sole consumer option , even in "30 years" it has no place owning 100% of the industry and it simply won't
Ubisoft's CEO I think. Might have been in the next 10 years though
That's why you add it to your mix of consoles as purely incremental business and targeted at a completely different customer base than your standard bread and butter customers.
Let's see what Sony do with PS Now, because I'm sure they'll be pushing it next gen.
I'd say it's not technical problem,main problem is business model for big 3rd party publishers.If all big guys follow EA with their own streaming service,as i expect at some point to happen...things will get ugly.
This.
PS1, PS2: Polygon Era.
PS3, PS4, PS5: Shader Era.
PS6, PS7: Raytracing Era.
For the scenario he was entertaining, of hardware being unnecessary, he's certainly right.
But note that he did also, unprompted, acknowledge it as a risk for the hardware side of the business in the 5 year timeframe.
Those aren't contradictory statements ... he doesn't see the extreme example some commentators have floated manifesting in that timeframe - where there'd be little or no need for anyone to have hardware - but there is a slope that could take some users out of the hardware market in that time.
Of course, what's a risk for the hardware business is an opportunity for the network business. The challenge for Sony (and others) on all network services is maintaining the dollar value per user for themselves and third parties - or, if not that, to at least grow the pot overall through higher volume.
But note that he did also, unprompted, acknowledge it as a risk for the hardware side of the business in the 5 year timeframe.
Those aren't contradictory statements ... he doesn't see the extreme example some commentators have floated manifesting in that timeframe - where there'd be little or no need for anyone to have hardware - but there is a slope that could take some users out of the hardware market in that time.
Of course, what's a risk for the hardware business is an opportunity for the network business. The challenge for Sony (and others) on all network services is maintaining the dollar value per user for themselves and third parties - or, if not that, to at least grow the pot overall through higher volume.
In a sense,i think game streaming in the next few years will have similar story like VR: lots of talk,not many customers.
I was wondering the same thing. Whats the point of the article? No one specifically asked if hardware would be obsolete in five years. Just what threats to the business over the next five years. The guy made up a theory about streaming only then counters it. Multiple companies have stated time and time again that streaming will be inferior to local as far as latency goes. It's manly just a cheaper option (at least short term) and maybe in some senareos easier/covenant.
