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Sony has nothing to announce right now in regards to BC on PSVR2
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I'm following all this with interest, but I have trouble seeing them get to the point where the software offerings are enough to persuade me to get on board. Honestly, the VR game I want to play most at this point is Astro Bot's Rescue mission. Hopefully they do include back compat because it can only help.
With how hacked together PSVR is (using existing accessories repurposed), I have no idea how they could make the games Backwards comparable without doing a lot of work on a game-by-game basis. Not sure it would be worth it to call it "backwards compatiblity" if they jsut patch a few games to work for it
I'm getting ps5 launch deja Vu.
I won't be too worried until something is confirmed to not be happening.
I'd be more curious if we'd see performance boosts from vr bc
imagine a boosted Re7 vr
I won't be too worried until something is confirmed to not be happening.
I'd be more curious if we'd see performance boosts from vr bc
imagine a boosted Re7 vr
No but seems like information you'd include with yesterday's info dump so either it's not BC or they still don't know themselves yet.
I think there would have to be some effort from Sony and Developers to make PSVR1 games compatible with the new hardware due to the differences in tracking for one. I hope that if the effort is put in, Sony would lead the way with any first party title and it would be a free patch rather then another $10 upgrade or even a whole rebuy.
I think it is important that Sony does make some effort here to at least get some of the exsisting library over to the new hardware.
I think it is important that Sony does make some effort here to at least get some of the exsisting library over to the new hardware.
Yep.
I'm convinced there's people who still believe the PS5 only plays 100 PS4 games.
I am quite hopeful the headset will have full backcompat with PSVR1. It would be quite a big fumble if it doesn't, as they'd be losing out on a ton of great games (RE7, Ace Combat, Astro's Playroom etc).
I agree that this doesn't really say much. They are obviously saving the release date info for a bigger reveal down the line, and might be saving backcompat info for that later reveal too.
I agree that this doesn't really say much. They are obviously saving the release date info for a bigger reveal down the line, and might be saving backcompat info for that later reveal too.
They'd be crazy to not let PSVR 1 games work on PSVR 2, to the point where I'd say it's dead on arrival if it doesn't include the compatibility. I'm sure they will include it though, as they know one of the biggest VR titles on their platform (Beat Saber) most likely wouldn't even see a release on PSVR2 due to being owned by Oculus now.
With how weird the messaging about PS4 backwards compatibility before the PS5 launch was when in the end it turned out to be pretty much perfect for all but a dozen or so titles, I'm cautiously optimistic we will get the same for PSVR (so basically everything except some weird shovelware stuff and Robinson: The Journey).
If it isn't BC I hope Sony at least works with other developers to port PSVR's biggest hits to PSVR2. Games like Rec Room, Beat Saber, Resident Evil 7 VR, Astro Bot Rescue Mission and Skyrim VR should absolutely be playable at launch.
I really hope they can do it even if I need to use move controllers, DualShock 4s and the camera. I just really want to get rid of the old headset and breakout box.
They way they have been giving out PSVR titles for ps plus users, I'd think it would be backward compatible so users are likely to buy a machine for the games they already have for free.
I don't care one way or another, but that's not really a very promising sign that they're refusing to comment on such a simple question like that…
Hopefully it'll have BC though
Hopefully it'll have BC though
What i imagine will be an option for PS4 VR titles to be updated to the PS5 vr SDK, and with that they become usable on PSVR2 as PS5 apps.
All VR titles currently run as PS4 titles in BC mode which is not the full capability of ps5 and likely cannot function with anything not part of the ps4.
Just how complex migrating to the PS5 VR SDK is will likely determine whether titles get an update. I would also take a guess that any games that took liberties with being standard to ps4 sdk will have trouble being ported over.
All VR titles currently run as PS4 titles in BC mode which is not the full capability of ps5 and likely cannot function with anything not part of the ps4.
Just how complex migrating to the PS5 VR SDK is will likely determine whether titles get an update. I would also take a guess that any games that took liberties with being standard to ps4 sdk will have trouble being ported over.
If info isn't cleared through their marketing Dept they're not gonna say a peep. Any number of things could be in active development and on various time tables and they don't want random employees sticking their foot in their mouths by saying something wrong.
Yeah, from a content perspective it would be very stupid if it wasn't BC. They would be completely starting over with developing content for it, as opposed to a BC device having a substantial library from day 1. I'm assuming the "nothing to announce" is because some games will work and some won't, like maybe one's that relied more heavily on camera and move functions.
lol
The lead up to the consoles launching was wild.
As for BC...I dont know what I want more...BC or 3D blu ray play back.
it could literally be because they don't plan to include BC, or because they aren't ready as part of their marketing strategy to announce BC, or that they are still testing whether BC is viable. It's a pretty nothing statement at this point. There's nothing really to pivot a discussion off of. People are just going to be guessing.
I originally wanted to buy the old kit as well but then it started selling for way too much for what it is, now it's not even in stock so I just assumed that BC will be a safe alternative in case things won't improve (and it looks more and more they won't, not until the thing is discontinued anyway...). This recent talk about BC possibly not even being there is worrying...
I would imagine the only issue will be any titles that used Controller Light Bar tracking.
The new controllers should in theory be able to like replicate the move tracking depending on their solution.
The new controllers should in theory be able to like replicate the move tracking depending on their solution.
That's what I'm thinking. Either way, hopefully Sony gets PSVR BC working.
With how well PS5 BC worked, and the fact PS5 supports PSVR 1, I would say it's highly likely PSVR2 will play PSVR games.
Most VR games are multiplatform, so it shouldn't be hard to take the control schemes from Quest / PC VR versions of games and patch them into PSVR games. VR developers are pretty good at supporting their games, so I'm sure many will want to patch their games to run on this awesome new headset.
Most VR games are multiplatform, so it shouldn't be hard to take the control schemes from Quest / PC VR versions of games and patch them into PSVR games. VR developers are pretty good at supporting their games, so I'm sure many will want to patch their games to run on this awesome new headset.
The tweet says they have nothing further to announce in general. So nothing really to take away from that statement.
Devs will probably have to patch their games unless they can somehow emulate the old style of tracking.
Or games that display camera feed (typically for calibration) or games with dual move (move has more buttons than sense controller, e.g. Dreams have different function for left and right square of either move).
I think in general they will provide some basis to simplify compatibility for old code but I feel devs will still have to do small work on case by case basis and release PSVR2 ver.
-List games that require camera/controller tracking.
-See if any of those companies are willing to either update them or make PS5 versions for compatibility.
-The ones that can't will just be bound to the sad list, unfortunately.
I think it's likely that first party games will either get compatibility patches or PS5 versions outright if they were popular enough. Otherwise I imagine the PSVR2 SDK/API will have a BC mode where it takes the inputs and translates them to what the PSVR games are looking for so they work.
Moss, for example, is likely going to get a PSVR2 "remaster" leading up to Moss 2. The Persistence PS5 version could also get a PSVR2 mode added in. It's a no-brainer to get the gen 1 stuff working on PSVR2 while waiting for devs to make their games for it.
-See if any of those companies are willing to either update them or make PS5 versions for compatibility.
-The ones that can't will just be bound to the sad list, unfortunately.
I think it's likely that first party games will either get compatibility patches or PS5 versions outright if they were popular enough. Otherwise I imagine the PSVR2 SDK/API will have a BC mode where it takes the inputs and translates them to what the PSVR games are looking for so they work.
Moss, for example, is likely going to get a PSVR2 "remaster" leading up to Moss 2. The Persistence PS5 version could also get a PSVR2 mode added in. It's a no-brainer to get the gen 1 stuff working on PSVR2 while waiting for devs to make their games for it.
Controller light bar tracking games would probably require a Dual Shock 4 and camera. Move games might depend. Like, there's no reason why Beat Saber couldn't work, but something like Skyrim that uses both sets of face buttons might still require the Move controllers, or some sort of update.
I really hope it is to some degree. I have a launch PSVR and quite a few games that I've barely played as it was too inconvenient to swap HDMI cables every time I wanted to use it (due to not having HDR passthrough). While I've moved my PS4 Pro and PSVR to a non-HDR TV, I don't spend much time there so I still haven't been able to use it much and would be nice to try some of the older games on the PSVR 2.