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Sony Is Not Anti-Consumer for Making PS5 Exclusives - Push Square
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That's what happened multiple times. Posts here on Era, twitter, etc.
Yep.
Believe me, you wouldn't be that surprised if you would know them.
What a ridiculous, insulting straw man. You should be ashamed of yourself for making assumptions about my income that are completely untrue just because I disagreed with an argument that makes no sense and pointed out that you can't compare a recurring payment of $10 a month to a one-time purchase of $400. Clearly many people who are not wealthy feel the value proposition of a one-time $400 purchase is worth it for the ability to play years and years of exclusive games, not to mention the fact that most people do not buy these consoles at full price.
Another perfect example of why this site is a joke. Who is saying it's anti-consumer? I've read comments saying MS' is pro-consumer but that doesn't automatically make other approached anti-consumer. Everything doesn't have to be viewed in absolutes, this is not an either or topic.
All this drama over maybe 4 or 5 titles out of a whole generation of games. SMH.
All this drama over maybe 4 or 5 titles out of a whole generation of games. SMH.
Any developer who worked on AAA games(only talking about budget and scale here) should be able to make a comment on this.
It doesn't help that now that stream of thought has now left this tiny place and is now floating around. No disrespect to the author but the Matt Booty/Kotaku threads about cross-gen/not cross-gen really didn't need more exposure.
Anti-consumer does not mean what some folk here think it means. Exclusivity is not Anti-consumer.
Ah, gotcha. You just mean a general insight into the premise. I thought you meant more of like, someone reporting their specific experience of developing a game for Series X and being mandated to use Xbox One as a baseline rather than just discussing the concept.
Death threats and meltdowns are never ok.
Personally I only consider practices that punishes customers who already bought into your eco systems or that are buying your products/services as anti consumer. Such as bad warranty exclusions or duration and not doing refunds. Having to buy a console to play a game is not anti consumer as there's no loss on the consumers if they don't buy the game or the console.
Another pet peeve of mine is when people say that Nintendo not reducing prices is them being anti consumer.
Of course not, this argument never held any water is not at all applicable in the real world. They own a portfolio, and get to choose their channels. Gamers acting entitled doesn't change a damn thing.
Well, because people in the other thread were downplaying the extent to which nextgen games would be held back by the xbox one. Some used the pc with its unlimited hardware combinations to make the case that it's not a big deal.
I want to read first hand experiences from people who actually have to deal with this.
It's a cycle. The coming of a new gen is always the best/worst time. I'm just happy to get new console options, new tech and new games.
I understand that power is a factor; I just find the idea of exclusivity in general to be fundamentally anti consumer behavior in the sense that it removes consumer choice. Make me want a PS5 because the PS5 is unique and good hardware, not because games are locked to it.
The idea of games being built for more powerful hardware is fine and makes sense; its not so much that the games are not on PS4 as it is that the games are locked to the Playstation environment that troubles me.
The idea of games being built for more powerful hardware is fine and makes sense; its not so much that the games are not on PS4 as it is that the games are locked to the Playstation environment that troubles me.
I haven't seen it but I wouldn't be surprised. On the other hand I did see someone making the comment that Microsoft is anti-consumer because their exclusives will also come out on the x1 lol.
Excellent article, Sammy. Every significant console known to man has had exclusives either at launch and most definitely within their first two years. Funny how this decades old tradition only became "anti-consumer" in the minds of some once Microsoft revealed XSX will not have any exclusives.
I agree with what you wrote about the different directions. Sony wants you to buy PS5 (thus the exclusives), while Microsoft wants you to buy their subscription (thus nothing's exclusive). Nothing wrong with different companies having different goals.
one and done
game needs funding to even exist/get made is different from an already well funded game with no money or development help/issues being money hatted just for the fact that said whatever console/platform company doesn't want said 3rd party game on other platforms (PS, Nintendo, Xbox, Epic Game Store, Steam, etc...)
Well, you are one of the many coments that lead to this article.
Literally no one outside a handful (as in literally 3-4) forum posters are saying otherwise. This article and narrative that people actually think it's anti-consumer is already exhausting.
This.
This.
It is more anti-consumer than EGS exclusives. Whether or not that bar is set in the "not anti-consumer" side of things is up to you.
I have a feeling Demon's Souls remake, if it is even real, is gonna be only on Ps5
Imagine if the film industry was like this
"You have to buy the Sony BDPS1700 Bluray player to watch Avengers: Endgame and the LG BPM350 Bluray player to watch Frozen 2, and people cheer this on as being good for consumers"
Obviously this isn't a 1:1 situation, the industry is a little different in how development works, but the thing is is that you're saying that a console isn't worth it if it doesn't have exclusive games.Wouldn't you want the console to sell itself on its own hardware? Like imagine if all games were multiplat; you'd choose what platform to play on based on what has the best hardware for the best price most suited to you, wouldn't you? Wouldn't it be better for hardware to sell itself on its own merits?
Anti-consumer violates the rights of consumers, usually when they are forced to agree to contracts which come with the purchased or used product. Other example would be faulty products which limit the lifespan of said product.
Not even your example is anti-consumer. It simply isn't in the interested of all consumers.
This is a nonsense comparison.
Amazon doesn't lock content to the new version of their Fire Stick or just new Fire TV models.
Let's compare it to other hardware oriented products. Does Apple lock their apps to only new Iphone models?
I wish I could text-swap anti-consumer with cream of wheat on mobile. That would make all of this so much more amusing.
If it exists, BluePoint is making it. And I believe it's already confirmed that their project is PS5-only.
I think the console isn't worth it if it doesn't have exclusive games. For example there is no way i'd buy a Switch if that content was available elsewhere.
The hardware is only important to me in that it is capable of playing the games designed for it.
If I wanted the best hardware, I wouldnt bother with consoles.
It would seem the vast majority of gamers polled think that exclusive ip on a new platform is ok so the semantic argument isn't necessary.
Sony first party being exclusive to their current system being called anti-consumer is one thing, while third party bought exclusives and timed exclusives being called anti-consumer is another.
A game like Destiny 2 having its DLC locked to PS4 exclusively was called anti-consumer a lot. I don't think many people, if any, have been saying a game like Horizon which is totally made by Sony, is anti-consumer as the article claims people are saying.
So why are there so many Sony fans on this forum getting upset that so few think this is anti-consumer (it's not). Everything about this cross gen stuff has been so absurd.
Yep, new console cycle is upon. You can tell by the ridiculous articles that are being written.
I think gamers lose brain cells the year new consoles are set to release. This one here makes no sense to me. Anti customer because they invest in their own platform and studios? Ludicrous to think this.
I think gamers lose brain cells the year new consoles are set to release. This one here makes no sense to me. Anti customer because they invest in their own platform and studios? Ludicrous to think this.
We are ok with this because hardwares in the past were so different between generations and we didn't have scalable games. Now that all consoles are basically PCs with different specs, it does not make sense to lock ALL games to new hardware versions only. I can see this happening after some years, and with only games the push the hardware limits. For all the other games it's just a business oriented anti-consumer decision.