Battlefield games have had separate servers for each consoles since the PS2 daysThis isn't a proper solution, Xbox/Switch owners should have access to the same servers everybody else does and have access to the existing player base.
Battlefield games have had separate servers for each consoles since the PS2 daysThis isn't a proper solution, Xbox/Switch owners should have access to the same servers everybody else does and have access to the existing player base.
I don't think that has been stated at all, plus a MS first party title SOT doesn't allow you to opt out of crossplay (there is probably more.)That's different from what I'm referring to though. FFXIV there is no way to 'opt' out of cross play on PS4. You play with both PC and PS4 always. Microsoft when they began to outline their cross play policies, stated that they require all cross play games to give the option to ONLY play with Xbox players.
that was an exception to the rule and it never happened again for 360Not for MMOs. FFXI was on Xbox 360 as well, with all the cross play.
so MS was demanding their own servers? I wonder it this is why Elder Scrolls Online has separate servers for each platform because it did launch on XB1.Actually Microsoft was the issue as stated by the game director a few times over the years:
https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xiv-isnt-coming-to-xbox-because-of-a-sil-723669207
"Yoshida isn't okay with that.
"The policy has not changed on Microsoft's side," Yoshida told RPGSite. "The main reason from our side is that I don't want the community to be divided; to be split into two or more. For example, one player might be on the PC version, another might be on the PS4 version, and I'm playing the Xbox version - but we're not able to join the same game servers. That is just... I just don't like the idea. I disagree with it.
The game would have been on Xbox a long time ago if it weren't for Microsoft"
If that is true then how in the hell am I not able to opt out of cross platform play in Sea of Thieves?Not denying Sony's involvement but wouldn't the cross platform play on XBO not work anyway cause one of Microsoft's rules is that a player must be able to opt out of cross platform play? That kind of stops things all together. Unless they changed that recently.
I think the issue is that FF14 is an MMO and Yoshida would like everyone across platforms to be able to play together.Battlefield games have had separate servers for each consoles since the PS2 days
It was, back in the ps3 era MS was against merging servers so Square went PC+ PS3 serverscould have sworn a older interview with Yoshida stating MS was the reason for no FFXIV on Xbox
Fortnite is PC/Mobile/xbox or PC/Mobile/ps4, rocket league is PC/Xbox/switch or Pc/Ps4, Minecraft is Pc/Mobile/Xbox/Switch or PS4 and there are more Xbox/switch crossplay games out there as well, so i would definitely say Sony is holding it backIsn't Fortnite like cross platform between everything except XBox? And Minecraft same, but except Playstation?
So yeah, for me is Sony the issue here, making them chose between them or the others
Thank you. It is why Yoshida-san said:"I hope those first parties change their policies or mindsets".Incidentally, as someone who actually talked to Yoshida-san directly during several interviews in which I asked about this very issue, the matter appears to be a lot more complicated than just pointing the finger at one party with no evidence whatsoever.
Then they must have changed it. I haven’t played SoT outside the beta lol. Calm down.If that is true then how in the hell am I not able to opt out of cross platform play in Sea of Thieves?
If it helps, someone mentioned to me this is the same case with Rocket League but I haven't played that game much to be able to tell lolThen they must have changed it. I haven’t played SoT outside the beta lol. Calm down.
Neverwinter, Tera and ESO all have separate servers, that’s not really a good excuse.I think the issue is that FF14 is an MMO and Yoshida would like everyone across platforms to be able to play together.
It sounds like the service just doesnt include PS4. It isn't Sony's service."Unfortunately, users of the PlayStation 4 or Vita platforms will not be permitted to play with their Nintendo brethren."
Did you read your own link?
Yes it is, FFXIV has a shitload of servers. Like, a shit ton of them. I don't think splitting the userbase is a wise move.Neverwinter, Tera and ESO all have separate servers, that’s not really a good excuse.
This does not explain Dragon Quest X's crossplay.Thank you. It is why Yoshida-san said:"I hope those first parties change their policies or mindsets".
Meaning that if it was just Sony he would have said so, but he calls out more than one party's policies.
http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/...ne-x-discussions-positive-ffxiv-producer-saysHe hopes that Sony changes its "policies or mindsets" so that this will be possible.
Again, other MMOs are doing fine by doing that.Yes it is, FFXIV has a shitload of servers. Like, a shit ton of them. I don't think splitting the userbase is a wise move.
Er... yes? Gamerevolution are offering their own spin on that same Eurogamer interview (The only source they cite) that you are in order to make it look like they have something new to add, when in reality they have no more information on the matter than anyone else who read the EG article. Maybe you should take your own advice and actually read the articles you are linking :)
how was it uncertain? most of the titles people want full crossplay in have their own serversSony is known for their shitty practice of no cross-platform multiplayer, but what was uncertain was if this applied to MMO's that worked on their own servers.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...est-failure-changed-the-series-for-the-better
He mentions "first parties" here, but not Sony specifically. However... Recently Phantasy Star Online 2 (a cross-platform MMO with PC, PS4, and Vita) was released on Nintendo Switch which had a caveat. So essentially they are all on the same servers, but Switch users have a restriction in that they cannot play with Sony system users which outright shows it's Sony's nonsense with cross-platform again.
There's also this tidbit which outright confirms it is them.
http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/...ne-x-discussions-positive-ffxiv-producer-says
And the hilarious part is, FFXIV doesn't even require Playstation Plus, so it's just them being shitty at this point.
The game is not on other consoles because Square doesn't want a splintered community. This has not stopped dozens and dozens of other developers of porting their games to other platforms.
"We have no intention to divide the servers per platform - we're working with one big community. I'm interested in other platforms, of course - I hope those first parties change their policies or mindsets. I'm an MMORPG gamer - I'd love to play with many people globally, and we've been talking to those platforms about getting it on their hardware. Positive discussion is ongoing. It's not as if we're not doing anything - we are actually talking to them, and the platform holders are showing their attitude in a more positive way."Nothing? PSO2 shows Sony users can't play with Nintendo users, yet Nintendo is more than willing to do cross-platform.
There's no restriction in place on PC users which further shows Nintendo has no issues with cross-platform.
Also, how is this vague?
He outright says it's Sony.
That's because Yoshida never did say that, it's conjecture from GameRevolution. In fact he's stated Microsoft as the problem a few times over the years.http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/...ne-x-discussions-positive-ffxiv-producer-says
If Yoshi actually stated that he hopes Sony changes it's policy or mindsets, why isn't it being quoted together? It sounds more like the author used a part of Yoshi's statement, put his own personal thoughts together with it, and tried to push it as if it came from Yoshi, himself.
This is most likely true. It's also most likely true that MS current policy of being open to cross-play is because they are losing so bad to Sony, both in terms of sales and mindshare.Fuck Sony and their Crossplay practice.
They only do this because they're number one atm.
The “how in the hell” is aimed at MS not you lol, it's unbalanced as fuck and it sucks.Then they must have changed it. I haven’t played SoT outside the beta lol. Calm down.
Hey, college essays are filled with 2-word quotations in 3-lined sentences. You do what chu gotta do.http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/...ne-x-discussions-positive-ffxiv-producer-says
If Yoshi actually stated that he hopes Sony changes it's policy or mindsets, why isn't it being quoted together? It sounds more like the author used a part of Yoshi's statement, put his own personal thoughts together with it, and tried to push it as if it came from Yoshi, himself.
Oh come one, how would we get all these great threads otherwise.The word “Sony” doesn’t appear at any point in the article....so you just made that part up :/...that’s real misleading, no?
But we now know that this isn't the case. Microsoft may have changed their policy since the time of your links but either way Microsoft allow cross-play with Nintendo so they do not have any problems with cross-play.The Eurogamer article (and Yoshida) don't even single out Sony and the GameRevolution article adds it in as an assumption but it's been previously stated by Yoshida that is isn't Sony that is the issue, it's Microsoft
https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xiv-isnt-coming-to-xbox-because-of-a-sil-723669207
https://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/1...x-one-talks-mmo-square-enix-microsoft-e3-2016
It shows nothing, because we don't know who asked for the caveat of keeping Switch and PS4 users aside, nor why it was asked, and how.Nothing? PSO2 shows Sony users can't play with Nintendo users, yet Nintendo is more than willing to do cross-platform.
There's no restriction in place on PC users which further shows Nintendo has no issues with cross-platform.
You should read the original article, and not the misquote by a website that apparently prefers to replace the original word of the developer with its own interpretation for controversy and clicks sake. Not that they're new to that.
Then zip up your pants
And Kokonoe isn't wrong either. Nintendo has been okay with crossplay since the Wii with Dragon Quest X, and okay with Crossplay on Wii U with that game and a chess game, and the Switch has several crossplay titles out now or coming out soon that let you play with Xbox players.Oh my god, the OP of this thread actually posts in the other thread about this very same article. What the heck is going on? haha
Agreed. Thread title is misleading. It should be stated that this is the conjecture of the OP.
If read carefully Sony is not inside the quotation marks meaning he didn't imply or mention Sony directly but the author implied it. That's how you really read an article.
You make a good point my friendOh come one, how would we get all these great threads otherwise
Why would MS affect a switch version?People are on the edge to bash Sony at the first opportunity, funny this might be more on MS than Sony
If read carefully Sony is not inside the quotation marks meaning he didn't imply or mention Sony directly but the author implied it. That's how you really read an article.
Yoshida reiterated this in the interview, noting that FFXIV would never come to those platforms unless all users could play together on the same server. He hopes that Sony changes its "policies or mindsets" so that this will be possible.
Figures. People are just tripping over themselves to get their hot take in lolThe word “Sony” doesn’t appear at any point in the article....so you just made that part up :/...that’s real misleading, no?