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Sony patents a new system of backward compatibility

Inuhanyou

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Those digital sales this quarter say it all. There is no company in the world not paying attention to that kind of revenue and wanting that to continue as uninterrupted as possible.

I'm only expecting PS4 games and the PS2 classics already emulated by PS4 by default.


but if they manage to actually leverage their huge library install base over multiple gens through other platforms...? oh boy, that's a different discussion entirely
 
ThereAreFourNaan

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Note that Ps4 did not include CD hardware for Ps4 as a cost saving measure so I would not get my hopes up for an epic PS1-4 BC system.

As per df video, also note that patents are only sometimes seen through to commercial application.
 
Iztok

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I hope it's proper BC, though, playing off the inserted media.

The way Xbox does it is fine, great even, considering the alternative may very well be nothing.
But using the media as simply a hardware key to download the game off the store isn't proper BC in my eyes (but it's fine as an extra option).

I know there's little chance of getting what I want, but still.
 
aisback

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If PS3 backwards compatibility happens then wouldn't they keep using them for PSN +games?

I know it'll probably end up being just PS4 games
 
RocknRola

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Usually, a patent by itself doesn't mean much. Sony, in particular, has had some crazy controller patents that they never acted upon (or at least sold to the public that is).

That said, if this comes from Cerny himself, there may be some merit to the idea that this will be used sooner rather than later. We'll see.
 

Kenjovani

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Ppl act as if previous Sony systems didnt offer bc and it will be a first for Sony 🤔 I know some love this and options are always good but it will and has never been a deal breaker for the masses.

Sony will deff be offering bc however and I look forward to see how thy implement it.
 
wapplew

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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold 15m copies.
Remaster money is too lucrative for Sony, I doubt they will support BC, at lease not for free.
Watch them ask users to rebuy their library on PS5.
 
Windrunner

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Inuhanyou said:
Those digital sales this quarter say it all. There is no company in the world not paying attention to that kind of revenue and wanting that to continue as uninterrupted as possible.

I'm only expecting PS4 games and the PS2 classics already emulated by PS4 by default.


but if they manage to actually leverage their huge library install base over multiple gens through other platforms...? oh boy, that's a different discussion entirely
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Exactly. Build that cross-generation ecosystem, entrench those who spend the most like never before.
 
jobrro

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If PS5 is BC PS4, PS3, PS2 and PS1

It's a megaton announcement, look forward PS5 reveal
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I sure hope so. I understand not having PS3 on PS4 but was disappointed I couldn't use PS1/PS2 Classics from the previous system's libraries. I kept thinking it would be announced at the next E3 or PSX until I gave up. If I wanted to restart on a classic library every system I would go to Nintendo, but even they had the decency of offering discounted upgrade rates from Wii to Wii U.

It's what is appealing about PC, and now the Xbox platform. Essentially if Sony doesn't do BC (for PS4 on PS5 at least) it basically means their ecosystem is a single system only, which is pretty worthless in a world where Xbox, Steam, Apple/iOS , Android etc. ecosystem purchases are valid a whole lot longer.

The patent about SD to 4K could mean a nice emulator for PS1 and PS2. I would so much rather that than buy something like a PS Classic.
 
Fisty

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aisback said:
If PS3 backwards compatibility happens then wouldn't they keep using them for PSN +games?

I know it'll probably end up being just PS4 games
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Honestly i think the main reason they stopped PS3 games is because they were running out of them (lots of classics never made it to PSN). Same with Vita, plus the fact it wasnt a hit means fewer users anyway.

I agree though, I will keep my dreams in check and only expect PS4 compatibility. PS3 would be massive though
 

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I literally need at least ps4 compatibility because I simply don't have room for another console. There are too many games that matter to me on PS4 and because the original nier is on ps3 I haven't been able to get rid of that console either
 
Gobias-Ind

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If it works as well as the most generous interpretation of this patent implies, this is all you need to say to make the PS5 a day one buy.
 
Steiner_Zi

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I really hope that the BC will extend to discs too and not just the digital library.

It felt glorious during the PS3 days to put a disc of Crash, RE2 or FF9 and play.
 
john titor

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Is it technically possible to implement backward compatibility for both PS3 and PS4 at the same time?
 
Khrol

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Now this would get me invested in sony again. My enormous library of PSX and PS2 games are ready.
 
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antennastoheaven said:
Thing is, Backward Compatibility technical implementation is not all. Sony needs to nail the business-side of the implementation.

Please let us use our old CDs/DVDs/BRs and downloads. Please don't make us buy games all over again...
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You definitely have my thoughts with this post. Charging me again for legacy games would keep me more focused on the Xbox with its implementation of backwards compatibility.
 
ianpm31

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If Sony offers full BC from ps1, ps2, ps3, and ps4 on the Ps5 then that will be a megaton.
 
Joeyro

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Backward-compatibility is an obvious thing by now considering the state of GaaS games this gen. What do people expect? for people to be forced to repurchase Siege,Destiny 2, Anthem, Division and etc on new consoles?
 
Koozek

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Inuhanyou said:
Those digital sales this quarter say it all. There is no company in the world not paying attention to that kind of revenue and wanting that to continue as uninterrupted as possible.

I'm only expecting PS4 games and the PS2 classics already emulated by PS4 by default.


but if they manage to actually leverage their huge library install base over multiple gens through other platforms...? oh boy, that's a different discussion entirely
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but from a revenue standpoint wouldn't they technically want people to have to rebuy their fave games each gen as remasters? 🤔 otoh, the people who are enticed by BC to spend even more on PSN in general because they feel more future-proof in that ecosystem might be worth more than the people who rebuy remasters.
 
ArnoldJRimmer

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This sounds more conplex that it actually is. Assuming the os5 will have the same cpu architectyre just be faster, wouldnt they just down clock it, turn off cores, etc to mimck the old CPU?
 
Fliesen

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cw_sasuke said:
They have to step their BC game in a big way considering what MS is offering.

I dont know about PS3(well outside of streaming) - but the other consoles should be more than reasonable.
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I feel at a certain point they should be able to "brute force" PS3 emulation, shouldn't they? (let alone PS2 and PSX)
Sony should have home field advantage here.
 
Bishop89

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modiz

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i dont doubt PS4 BC, i have been expecting it a long time ago.
If they actually manage to do PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3, PSVita and PS4 BC all in one,
that would be one of the craziest megatons ever.
 
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