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Oct 25, 2017
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Sony Plans Limited PlayStation 5 Output in First Year

Sony Corp. plans to produce far fewer units of its upcoming PlayStation 5 in its first year than it had for the previous-generation console’s launch, according to people familiar with the matter.

Sony Corp. plans to produce far fewer units of its upcoming PlayStation 5 in its first year than it had for the previous-generation console's launch, according to people familiar with the matter. The Tokyo-based tech giant is limiting its initial production run in part because it expects the PS5's ambitious specs to weigh on demand by leading to a high price at launch, the people said, asking not to be identified because the subject is private. The global Covid-19 pandemic has affected Sony's promotional plans for the new device but not its production capacity, they added.

The company has told assembly partners it would make 5 to 6 million units of the PS5 in the fiscal year ending March 2021, according to other people involved in the machine's supply chain. When Sony released the PlayStation 4 in November 2013, it sold 7.5 million units in its first two quarters.

The PS5's loftier price tag may also deter initial take-up. Game developers who've been creating titles for the next PlayStation anticipate its price to be in the region of $499 to $549, and Bloomberg Intelligence's Matthew Kanterman points to increased component costs pushing up the price required for Sony to break even. Sony has struggled with its price-setting decision for the PS5 because of scarce components, Bloomberg News has reported.

Sony's strategy, according to several people familiar with its plans, will be to rely on incumbent PlayStation 4 models as a bridge to get new users onto the PlayStation platform's network services while the PS5 remains in limited supply, the people said.

Currently, Sony sells the PS4 for $300 and the higher-end PS4 Pro for $400. The company may cut these prices around the time of the PS5 launch to stimulate new subscribers for the PlayStation Plus membership program and PlayStation Now game-streaming service, the people said. Sony's Chief Executive Officer Kenichiro Yoshida has said the company will aim to increase recurring revenue rather than one-time hardware purchases.

The PS5 production volume could still change depending on the Covid-19 situation, the people said. Sony has asked employees to work from home to mitigate the spread of the virus, and its board has been unable to meet to approve business plans for the current fiscal year, including those for the PlayStation unit. That meeting was originally supposed to take place in March. Sony said last month that it plans to release results for the year ended March on April 30 but may be forced to push the date back due to the pandemic.

The virus has already upended Sony's promotional plans. The company may forgo hosting a public press conference for its PS5 release date and price unveiling due to infection fears. Recently, it was forced to reveal its DualSense PS5 controller in a hurried fashion, according to people informed on the matter. While only a small circle within Sony are privy to the appearance of the PS5 console, the controller has been shared with outside developers and the company feared it couldn't control leaks, they said.

Still, Sony remains unlikely to delay the launch of the PS5 from the critical year-end shopping season. So long as archrival Microsoft Corp. doesn't push back the release of its next-generation Xbox, also expected at the end of the year, Sony won't delay either, the people said. Some analysts believe the close contest for attention between the PlayStation and Xbox, especially in the U.S., may force both companies to sell their new consoles at a loss.

Suppliers have started delivering components to PS5 assemblers, who are scheduled to begin mass-producing the product by June. Sony's PlayStation chief Jim Ryan has stressed that the machine's launch should be simultaneous around the globe, according to people in the company's supply chain.

Covid-19 travel restrictions have prevented Sony engineers from flying to China to direct final adjustments before assembly plants go into mass production. Sony's assembly partner had voiced concern last month about meeting the production deadline, however those worries have since abated and it should now be able to meet Sony's requested schedule, people familiar with the discussions said.

On the software front, Sony has publicly warned that the Covid-19 pandemic may affect the game production pipeline for titles destined for its next console, which is a problem the entire industry is grappling with.
 
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KernelC

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makes sense, economic crash will likely also limit the amount of consoles sold in general, the first year or so anyways
 

o Tesseract

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A shame considering the PS4 backward compatibility is going to be limited initially as well.
MS's strategy of having all games work + enhancements is a better look for people looking to buy a new console this holiday.

EDIT: Looks like this was clarified. Disregard!
 
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Pyro

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I would have thought they'd delay to Spring 2021, especially if it ends up being cheaper than Series X.
 

orochi91

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Wouldn't this lead them to going all in on PC releases then?

They'll have to sell software elsewhere if there aren't many PS5s on the market.
 

alr1ght

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Suppliers have started delivering components to PS5 assemblers, who are scheduled to begin mass-producing the product by June. Sony's PlayStation chief Jim Ryan has stressed that the machine's launch should be simultaneous around the globe, according to people in the company's supply chain.

We'll at least see the box by June, due to leaks or official unveiling.
 

GasProblem

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Nov 18, 2017
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To be expected. I mean, I'll survive with my Pro, Switch and a backlog, but it's still a bummer.
 

GamerDude

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Oct 28, 2017
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Exactly as expected. Fall 2020 launch with a limited supply.

The price will be a tough pill to swallow in Canada. I suspect about $550-$600 CAD before tax.
 

Liquid Snake

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At $499 it won't sell as fast as PS4 did anyway, especially in the recession that's likely going to be caused by COVID19
 

Bradford

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The high price thing makes me think predictions of a $499 price point we're on the money. Maybe we'll see another $599 launch.
 

Riversands

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So it will have price surge? So, how do they focus on ps5 if their sales are limited? Does it mean only some people could get it????
 

BrickArts295

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Ohh boy, I hope people that want it, get it. Scalpers are going to have field day with this :(
 

zombiejames

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The company has told assembly partners it would make 5 to 6 million units of the PS5 in the fiscal year ending March 2021, according to other people involved in the machine's supply chain. When Sony released the PlayStation 4 in November 2013, it sold 7.5 million units in its first two quarters.

This doesn't sound too bad to me? Assuming a November launch, it would still be well over 1M units/month.
 

Bizzquik

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$499 until the supply chain gets figured out due to the virus, then? And limited supply?
Interesting stuff.

Looks like the usual, solid multiple sources and good reporting from Bloomberg.
 

Proven

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"The Tokyo-based tech giant is limiting its initial production run in part because it expects the PS5's ambitious specs to weigh on demand by leading to a high price at launch, the people said, asking not to be identified because the subject is private. The global Covid-19 pandemic has affected Sony's promotional plans for the new device but not its production capacity, they added."

So there will be limited supplies because they're going to price this thing so high? I don't really understand this quote.
 

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As long as it's still coming this year, I'm content.
 

Yuntu

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I really hope people dont go into next gen expecting 399 as a realistic price for either console.

edit: this also makes me wonder if for the same reason of still getting new consumers/subscribers MS may do that Lockhart thing, but we havnt heard anything about that for a while .... soooo
 

Penny Royal

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A shame considering the PS4 backward compatibility is going to be limited initially as well.
MS's strategy of having all games work + enhancements is a better look for people looking to buy a new console this holiday.

I guess you missed the whole clarification from Sony and MS about this subject.

Cerny was referring to titles being able to use the PS5 boost mode without crashing specifically in his GDC presentation.

Both companies are testing BC across their libraries.
 

Armadilo

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How much do you guys think they'll go for after they get sold out this fall ? eBay/craigslist
 

Scottoest

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Guess $399 is out, then.

I never thought $399 was likely, but limiting early supply could actually allow them to take a bigger loss. With expensive consoles, it's often a question of saturating demand early to sell as many at top dollar as possible, then introducing a fairly early price cut - or launching with a more aggressive price, but limiting early supply while you wait for manufacturing costs to come down (limiting your losses in the process).

Series x is gonna be $599.

Exceedingly unlikely, based on everything Xbox or Phil Spencer have ever said on the subject of pricing. If I had $10, I'd wager $9 of it on PS5 and XSX being the same price.
 

Sandfox

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The PS5's loftier price tag may also deter initial take-up. Game developers who've been creating titles for the next PlayStation anticipate its price to be in the region of $499 to $549, and Bloomberg Intelligence's Matthew Kanterman points to increased component costs pushing up the price required for Sony to break even.

Well there goes $400 speculation.