I believe around 10 Million copies.
And since we are on the subject, for the other exclusives:
God of War - 5 millions.
Detroit - 2 millions.
Spider-Man - from 7 to 9 millions.
Days Gone - 5 to 7 millions.
Ghost of Tsushima - 2 to 3 millions.
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Sony Playstation: First Party Studios & their Current Projects
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And since we are on the subject, for the other exclusives:
God of War - 5 millions.
Detroit - 2 millions.
Spider-Man - from 7 to 9 millions.
Days Gone - 5 to 7 millions.
Ghost of Tsushima - 2 to 3 millions.
Detroit will easily sell more than 2m, Heavy Rain sold over 5m.
Think your guesses for Ghost and GoW are well under.
Yeah on the long run maybe, but I am thinking the first year will be 5 mil.
I based my assumption on the fact that Beyond: Two Souls did not sell that well, so it may take time for Detroit to kick in.
As for Ghost, I am crazy excited about it, but a Stealth\Action game in Feudal Japan, while it may tick all the right boxes, I am not sure it will be for everyone.
I don't know. Most of his games are primarily MP combat focused, and he was working on a shooter for PSP. I'd love to see him tackle it.
You think TLOU2 is going to bomb?!
I think you mean units, not dollars lol
I don't think Sony have given an update on TLOU sales for some time, the last was for UC4 when it sold 8 million or whatever it was. Would have to think, with no evidence at all that TLOU has passed 10 million sales including PS3/PS4. It has been on sale many times as well, I grabbed it on PSN for very cheap some time ago. Also the only game I've played twice, it is that good!
Speaking on PS5, I could not care less about how powerful they make it. Something has got to be done about the first/second parties though, this generation has been awful in terms of their published games. I hardly use the PS4 to play games, that has been the case for the 4 years since it released. Things have just changed a lot this generation with so many online games and developers focusing on few games these days. I really don't give two fucks about 3rd party games, particularly the western studios so yeah, would be great if Sony are able to improve output.
There will definitely be PS4 ports coming to PS5 though, absolutely no way that will not be the case. GT Sport did shit sales wise except for when price was cut, don't think PD will get that leeway they did even during PS4 launch. First year for PS5 will be GT7, TLOU2, Spider-man, Death Stranding, GoT, Dreams etc which would be a great start for the system. Those titles are too big to not put on PS5 as console sale drivers.
Speaking on PS5, I could not care less about how powerful they make it. Something has got to be done about the first/second parties though, this generation has been awful in terms of their published games. I hardly use the PS4 to play games, that has been the case for the 4 years since it released. Things have just changed a lot this generation with so many online games and developers focusing on few games these days. I really don't give two fucks about 3rd party games, particularly the western studios so yeah, would be great if Sony are able to improve output.
There will definitely be PS4 ports coming to PS5 though, absolutely no way that will not be the case. GT Sport did shit sales wise except for when price was cut, don't think PD will get that leeway they did even during PS4 launch. First year for PS5 will be GT7, TLOU2, Spider-man, Death Stranding, GoT, Dreams etc which would be a great start for the system. Those titles are too big to not put on PS5 as console sale drivers.
I will and, if this doesn't happen, just for you:
I've had the opposite experience; this has been some of the most fun I've had with Sony's published games.
I'm still amazed at how good this looks. This has the potential to be the greatest looking game ever graphically. Look at the lighting, the texture. Jesus.I'm guessing that's Victoria Grace (Yara) between Neil and Halley.
2014 would also be when Sony Santa Monica were toying with their new Space IP, so its entirely possible that's what the Project was.
The original TLoU sold 8m in just over a year. So I think 10m may be lowballing it. I expect the level of hype that we see with PII will be unlike anything we've seen from Sony before. It's a game with an insane amount of crossover appeal to those that aren't even particularly into gaming. And it's a series that plays very well with female gamers, which is something I expect Sony to drive home since Ellie is the lead this time.
If I remember correctly, Ruin4r posted this in late 2014/ early 2015 before e3 2015. The Santa Monica IP was canceled in Feb of 2014.
You're lowballing God of War, my friend. Also GoW will outsell Spider-Man by the time the dust settles.
Imo there's no way Days Gone sells more than GoW. I say 8 mil for GoW.
I agree completely, I know a lot of ppl that either game casually or hardly ever but they for some reason played TLOU lol. It's gonna generate a lot of buzz once info starts coming out and I expect it to sell between 10-15 mil. It's likely get a console bundle too
Apparently they're using some new tech that's outta this world.
I thought it looked great, personally.
How about the Knack developers give up on the IP and work on Sly Cooper instead?
Wow. I only played and completed six Sony published games last generation. I have already doubled that this generation. It will most likely be triple by the time this generation ends. Because of that, all the console exclusives and multi-platform games, PlayStation 4 will most likely end up being my second best console of all time.
Yeah it can very well be a bigger seller than Uncharted 4. When Uncharted 4 was announced I always thought "That's going to be bigger than Gran Turismo and become the biggest Playstation exclusive." I was right about that, and I am sure I'll be right about God of War topping Uncharted 4
Wow. I could not disagree more. Sony's exclusives this gen are so much BETTER than last gen, and we're about to get a whole string of bangers in 2018/2019.
Unnamed Space Project goes in line with what SIEJ trademarked on 12/28 2017.
If this was late 2014 and early 2015 then it's interesting. Feb 2014 did Santa Monica Studio cancelled Darkside.
Yoshida teased Greg Miller and Colin Moriarty at E3 2015 that Japan Studio is now working on a really great project that he is really excited about. It was around 27:50 in the playtime when he mentioned Allan Becker was needed at Japan Studio to turn around the internal mess and the studio is now working on a exciting project. New Gravity Daze project was also another project he was waiting for the unveil when Colin asked about it.
I read that interview with Yamai from Atlus. They have reached a milestone now for SMTV and can start to hire related staff. Hideo Kojima said last year that somebody can take 7-10 years on a new IP. If your concept is not polished there is nothing to expand on and you have to keep working in the concept and planning stage.
According to Scott Rohde at PSX 2015 Bend Studio had reached a milestone with Days Gone. That means if Days Gone comes out in Aug 2018 it has only been in production for 2+ years.
Useful mo-cap prop tank replica for the numerous actors that get to hold the baby.
Yea I agree with you, this unnamed Space game is definitely not Darkside. Japan Studio or maybe another Santa Monica IP is my guess (but a stretch, as Cory is probably just starting to work on a new IP).
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Not a chance, spidey will be the biggest ps4 exclusive in terms of sales.
I think it'll be between Spidey and TLoU2, but I do agree that Spidey will outsell God of War.
I am wondering if Disney/Marvel Studios is going to step up with marketing for the game. Having Tom Holland play Spider-Man PS4 in Infinity War in detail/with commentary would be huge.
Gonna be one of the biggest marketing campaigns this gen. UC4 is still the biggest (first party wise) for now. I remember those Amazon packages with UC4 material on them.
https://kotaku.com/the-ps4s-developer-friendliness-explained-more-games-1293522585
You know Cerny also said the ease of develop reduced Knack's development time by a year. He also said thanks to ease of development the PS4 had the strongest PlayStation line up ever. At the start of the gen we were under the impression games were going to come out faster, thanks to what he said. It is no stretch to interpret what he said that way.
I couldn't care less how long the time to triangle is, that's internal milestone jargon that means nothing for the average user. All I care about is total length of dev time, including time to get game up and running alongside ambition and budget. And I'm concerned that will go up next gen. I don't care short the time to triangle is within 5 year dev cycles, it's still 5 years for a game to get to my hand. That's all I'm saying.
So, that unnamed space project is probably RaySpace, a PS5 Studio Japan game? Hopefully it's a JRPG. Studio Japan needs a big game beyond Ueda.
No they re not. Console, controler, OS aside, ps3 destroys ps4 in terms of first party. Imo and acording to metacritic.
Only thing i can accept as excuse for ps4 re bigger budgets and more complex projects.
Well, I disagree too. Also, I couldn't give a crap what metacritic.com says.
Can someone explain all the love for SOCOM?
I wasn't into military/realistic style shooters until relatively recently. So missed out on it last gen.
Is it comparable to any modern games?
Talking about exclusive games, there is not so many titles I am adding to my backlog for PS3 since I bought it for the first time as there are for PS4.
Not even close. PS4 lineup is way better. I dont even want to play as much multiplatforms on PS3 as on PS4.
Days Gone has been in development for 4+ years. Went into full production in December 2014/January 2015.
I really want a full blown story trailer for Days Gone I'm sold on the gameplay I just need more story.
This..
Said it before, will say it again. SM has something to prove to their fellow worldwide studios with this game...add this to Cory being lead...games gonna set some new bars.
I actually want to see the updated/final game-play of Days Gone.
The latest videos, concerning about the "Brutal Combat" system, still looks a liiiiiitle bit goofy for me to look at, lol.
Yeah, Bend is not Naughty Dog, I understand that, and it's functional at least.
I just want to see if they update it or not.
How s ps4 lineup way better? I want to know. Show me those first party titles.
And third party stuff is irrelevant to initial post.
If I will recall what Yoshida said to IGN last year about Japan Studio, they are very carefully planning bigger console games. As they see userbase growing they know they have to invest in larger experiences going forward. It meets expectations of the PS4 players and owners of PSVR systems. So that's what they are planning to do, he said. And Allan Becker spilled the beans: "we have new titles in the works that are being made with new technology in mind."
Expect bigger console games in the early console cycle is very risky according to Yoshida. PS2 did that and the reason why Sony moved away from JRPGs in the first place. Nothing met Sony's sales expectations. It was a disaster without quality control. They pumped out too many JRPGs in collaboration with other studios.
Okage, Dual Hearts (killed Matrix Software), Legend of Legaia 2 (not made by original developer), new PopoLoCrois trilogy (stayed in Japan), new Arc the Lad trilogy (problems with the creator being busy with Front Mission for Square Enix, so Cattle Call killed the IP), three more Wild Arms entries and a remake, Level-5 being the option to make bigger JRPGs instead of building a new team.
The higher management at SCEI didn't know what they were doing. They lost control and SCEE couldn't keep up with what SCEA localized from SCEI as far as JRPGs are concerned. It was a mess.
Yeah, but SOCOM is a tactical realistic military shooter. All of Jaffe's games are cartoony and are fast paced action gameplay wise. I just personally dont see the match here
Length of dev time =/= time-to-triangle, AKA getting playable code up and running. It literally means to get usable graphics on the hardware.
You say you don't care about milestone jargon, but then why are we talking about this? He talked about this during a jargon-laden talk:
In terms of Knack, of course it shaved a year off. If it takes 1 - 2 months to get something playable instead of 6 - 12, it's going to take a year off by default. They used a custom physics simulation on Knack's body, which made it easier to create. You'd be waiting even longer with PS3's complicated architecture. Either that, or the games would run worse as most games I play that target 30fps are a smooth, steady 30, whereas many games I played last-gen were all over the place in comparison due to the complicated development for the PS3.
We also have to look at all games. Middle-earth's sequel took three years. Watch Dogs 2 took a bit over two. Titanfall 2 took a bit over two. Assassin's Creed Origins took three years to develop. Sony just seems to like to give developers as much time as they need.
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Well Naughty Dog is a 300+ team. Bend was below 100 for a long time during development. So look at the gameplay trailer again. It looks really good for that.
They're well over 100 now and the game should look even better by now. They're using the newest Unreal tech.
Bend also haven't made a console game in over 11 years and days gone is open world and dynamic and not scripted and linear(not that that's a bad thing just saying)
And they don't have the resources ND has. ND clearly earned its place and reputation, but comparing everyone to them is unhealthy for your personal gaming experience.
You won't see that level of polish in every game...Deal with it.
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