For this year, definitely because it says how strong their State of Play and Death Stranding showcases were that had the momentum of an E3 presence.
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Sony Q1 FY2019 (April-June) Results - PS4: 3.2m (LTD: 100 million) / 1 billion games sold / FY2019 FCT down to 15m PS4
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For this year, definitely because it says how strong their State of Play and Death Stranding showcases were that had the momentum of an E3 presence.
😆 PS4 continues to remain niche as it becomes the fastest console to ship 100 million units. Consoles are dying y'all, Sony is doomed next gen thanks to streaming taking over. Same way they were doomed this gen when mobile took over, oh wait.....
How else do you interpret these statements for a console that hasn't been formally introduced?
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Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation
Don't expect it anytime in 2019, but the next PlayStation console is well on its way—and it's packing ray-tracing support and a loadtime-killing solid-state hard drive.www.wired.com
That's as much a confirmation one should expect or need at this point.
I'm not disputing that backwards compatibility is confirmed. I'm saying that the entire PS4 library being available day 1 on PS5 is far from being confirmed. For all we know, it could be a long roll out like Xbox has done this generation.
Not really. It will almost assured system level emulation and not the piecemeal solution Microsoft is using.
130 million. If they hit 15 million over the next year there is no way only sell 5 million more before support is dropped in another 3 or 4 years.
PS4 is a beast! Its crazy how its pacing ahead of the ps2 right now. Will probably slow down as the ps5 has bc, but crazy impressive. Really makes all those 2013 analysts look quite foolish.
Cloud gaming is niche until proven otherwise. Consoles are still the standard. And probably will be for the majority of the next generation.
Lol, did you forget sony have the only working cloud gaming service out right now?
Cloud gaming is niche until proven otherwise. Consoles are still the standard. And probably will be for the majority of the next generation.
I read the post on games that still have yet to come out and yeah I agree, it will likely hit 118 million by next year, potentially revising the LTD forecast to 136 million. With a sales cut to $200 and deals for $180 by it's twilight year (cease production year), it has the potential to grow long after the PS5 is out. Forgot the PS2 was still selling decently even after the PS3 was out.
I never said they were doomed, or were gonna die. I just said it will not be as easy to get to the 100m point with a traditional console next gen because of a dramatic shifts in available technology.
please sig the report of streaming consoles will become the new standards.
just 24 months ago, people told me that traditional issued currencies are going the way of DoDo and cryptocurrencies is the way forward. I wonder where are these people...
It's hard to be anything but impressed by the PS4's hardware sales. It also doesn't hurt that Sony made a ton of money from their gaming section this quarter.
Impossible to say without knowing their strategy going forward. They could keep selling PS4s for ages if the price goes low enough.
They could also keep the price at 300 and pretty much kill the PS4 sales the second PS5 comes out.
Seems extremely unlikely but if pessimism is your prerogative, go for it I guess. I don't think the rollout of Xbox OG backwards compatibility is comparable to Sony moving from gen 8 to gen 9 and building a machine that has backwards compatibility in mind from the onset.
Consumer expectation of software compatibility has grown immensely since the advent of smartphones. A half-assed backwards compatibility solution would be catastrophic and doesn't seem remotely possible when the most important people in the company are telling everyone how important BC is for the future.
Dramatic shifts in available technology this gen did not slow down the PS4. Consoles will continue to stay relevant and strong as long as there are still places in the world with shitty internet (which is most of the world last time I checked). I think people predicting streaming taking over are 10 years or more too early and they will be proven wrong again with the PS5 come next gen.
100 million PS4's sold, wow!
Keep pumping that PSN money into high quality games pls.
Also a bit surprised at the slight uptick in PS4 sales over this quarter last year (+2.7%).
Sales continue to be remarkably strong worldwide.
Keep pumping that PSN money into high quality games pls.
Also a bit surprised at the slight uptick in PS4 sales over this quarter last year (+2.7%).
Sales continue to be remarkably strong worldwide.
Did I say it was? You seriously believe it won't or are you just being a contrarian?
There are no dramatic shifts in available technology anytime soon. Streaming is available since like a decade ago. It was shit then, it's shit now and it will still be shit in 3 years.
I'm thinking 140-150 million. PS4 still has a lot of life in it especially if Sony does major permanent price drops for it which they haven't really done this gen. PS4 has yet to hit the magical permanent price of $199 where consoles become an impulse buy and start flying off shelves.
I agree it would be catastrophic, but until we get details I'm not going to assume they're necessarily going to meet consumer expectations.
HUGE work, thank you man.
And you're right to highlight the 1 billion games figure, because as far as we know there is only one console in history that accomplished the same thing : the PS2.
A massive chunk of that revenue is game sales on PSN, which also accounts for a 70% "expense". So let's say someone buys the latest COD on the Playstation Store - Sony will book $60 in revenue and then a $42 "expense" to give Activision their money. So I imagine that accounts for a large chunk of their expenses.
Anyway, I think a couple years back I predicted 135 million as the final figure for the PS4 so will be interested to see if it can hit it. If they hit their forecast this FY they'll be what, 112 million. Don't know if they can do another 20 million after that.
It's become dramatically better, and all it takes is a compelling package in order to upend the whole industry. We'll see if Google and Microsoft will offer that, but I am certain streaming will become the new standard sooner or later. There are too many advantages, and the drawbacks, no game ownerships, are non-issues to most people. That's been eroded for years of digital releases anyway.
Yea but what is allowing them to keep up to 2018? Last year was arguable their best year for exclusive yet 2019, a drought year, is keeping up with 2018 in terms of noi?
Cant see them spending that much on R&D 3 years in a row also. Just odd to me how high their expenses are.
Streaming consoles are definitely not becoming the new standard. Streaming is very slowly becoming a viable option for a few territories in the world.
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They may lose money at $199 to be honest. I mean just look at net income at $299.
How much of those expense could be related to PS5? I find it hard to believe a 5 year old console made of basically off the shelf parts still cost that much to manufacture.
