Yeah, zero chance it includes PS5. They'll sell 7-8 million minimum PS4's, and they're manufacturing 9 million PS5's (and there's no chance they won't sell them all as long as price isn't ridiculous).
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Good find.
It can't be including PS5 numbers, though. We are looking at 3.5 million PS4s sold before even entering Black Friday. I really doubt Sony is projecting to sell nearly zero PS5s within the first 5 months.
July 2019 - June 2020
MS: $11.58B Sony: $19.71B Nintendo: we'll find out soon enough
otherwise comparing past results in different timeframes (MS and Nintendo) to Sony's forecast makes no sense.
Holy shit at those insane numbers!
😳 Best quarter on the eve of a new console launch? This is nuts!
😳 Best quarter on the eve of a new console launch? This is nuts!
30% is for DD ( unless the make a deal .) here Sony make 100% from first party.
$7 to 10 is for disc\physical media they get from 3rd parties.
I only used Nintendos for good measures. MS one is from this FY.
Digital games only like indies. I don't think DLC are included in that.
The Fiscal Year only includes the 1.9M from this quarter (Q1).
And yeah, if it's including PS5, it seems very low, but at the same time I can't see PS4 really selling millions of more units this year when stock seems to be low everywhere.
"Forever, forever, ever, forever, ever?"
Damn these numbers are pretty good Sony, time to lower the PS4 price permanently though, you don't want to lose the race against PS2!!1 But the hardware sale forecast implies they won't cut the price any time soon ;(
Damn these numbers are pretty good Sony, time to lower the PS4 price permanently though, you don't want to lose the race against PS2!!1 But the hardware sale forecast implies they won't cut the price any time soon ;(
It'll be interesting to see if the attach rate lowers after the pandemic or if this was the push the market needed to go even more digital
I mean, for big softaware numbers the larger the install base (and in turn, the older a console is) the easier to pull this stuff out. It is selling new consoles which is hard
Ridiculous numbers. Great work OP.
There's this other thread here where some posters believe Nintendo is the market leader even though Sony sold the most hardware and games and have the much better profit this gen just because the Switch is selling truckloads right now.
There's this other thread here where some posters believe Nintendo is the market leader even though Sony sold the most hardware and games and have the much better profit this gen just because the Switch is selling truckloads right now.
Probably not by much. You'll have the purists like here on ERA but they shouldn't account for more than 4-5%.
We're probably looking at a situation where digital sales will be >90% by 2023.
Did you look at the comparisons to the other quarters ?
91M is insane.
PS5 definately seem a lot more powerful and advanced compared to how the PS4 was at the time though.
So if the software total now includes download only titles (about time!), does the 70% digital ratio include them as well? Or they were always included in the digital ratio? I think it's better that way but it also makes comparing this quarter to others useless software wise.
Ridiculously impressive. Not a huge surprise in the sense that we know the impact of Covid and how strong PS software is but it's still crazy to see the number breakdown. I think the DE is a possibility at 399, I think they could take a small loss and recoup on the store.
I think the pandemic is going to permanently alter a lot of shopping habits. Online shopping is one of them.
I know, but this quarter ends June 30. No question there will be another 1.x million until end of October, especially with Covid not going away soon.
I have no idea how you can possibly argue that the remaining 5.5m consoles could possibly be PS4+PS5 for November till April, when Sony aims to produce 10m PS5s until end of this year. It's just technically impossible.
Edit: OK, problem solved. The 9m were a placeholder.
Im not saying it isnt, was more commenting on your comment about it being a 7 years old console in relation to that number. Plus it is important to note that this has been facilitated by the covid 19 pandemic which is a pretty exceptional situation. Still yeah those are pretty insane results but not that mindblowing with the information we had.
Guys, is it safe to say Sony is market leader? or do I have to wait for the next media crate thread?
Dat 74% digital vs Physical tho. OMG
Dat 74% digital vs Physical tho. OMG
PS2 sold like 30-35 mil after PS3 was out. $199 PS4 super slim can push for those numbers.
Nice that they'll be providing first party sales figures.
No PS Now figures? Considering it tripled its subscriber count in the past year and had had a 30% off sale in June I'm curious where it sits now.