It's fake. Probably. I've seen so many perfectly angled "dad smashed my PS4!" Clips.
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Sony's Fortnite crossplay account block is now covered by mainstream press [Sony Responds]
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It's fake. Probably. I've seen so many perfectly angled "dad smashed my PS4!" Clips.
This is Sony´s response...
Found here.. (Italian Sony Facebook account)
https://www.facebook.com/sonyplayst...29850450998/10156224529345999/?type=3&theater
So they seem to be launching a PS4 + Fortnite Bundle with an exclusive skin...
lol.. they don´t give a damn about the Crossplay/Crossbuy/Epic account outrage.. .
I'm fully against what Sony has done with this account nonsense, but do you honestly think that this bundle was conceived and agreed upon in the space of 10 days? Stahp.
The whole family needs professional help. That's just a fight the kid can never win. Very much like the warriors fighting over the 10 dollars they spent on PSN. It's funny to watch though.
Lol I tried to read through that thread, but I saw the usual suspects practically jerking it to the thought of potential NPD sales figures and I had my fill. Is it still worth reading through for the humor?
I could have sworn I saw a PS4/Fortnite bundle on Amazon just the other day. I remember thinking, "how do you bundle a F2P game"
If so, it's nothing new.
I looked for it today, but I don't see it.
If so, it's nothing new.
I looked for it today, but I don't see it.
Hopefully they both learned a valuable lesson from this; a sledgehammer is not the best tool for settling disputes.
Haha we do understand and they do take way to damn long
All I'm saying is I blame epic for not being transparent on the issue, I'm not gonna blame Sony because it's not their place to tell, would it have been nice yes but it's epics product
As for the Nintendo tho, I'm saying traditionally third party games do worse on Nintendo than other consoles so it would truly benefit the most from crossplay
As for the rest agree to disagree
Good chatting with you regardless friend
Nah, your assessment is 100% correct, lol. Those same people who are avoiding the main topics are now projecting out their anger and are talking about how much money Sony Corp is going to make in spite of "manufactured outrage," blissfully unaware of exactly how long it takes for a hardware SKU to become a thing. Others are upset it's not coming stateside because of potential sales/money to be made, like they get a paycheck. Circlejerking about potential company profits is a sad thing.
I prefer to call them game fans. Jist like sports fans. Both cheer for their favorite to win and make no money in return.
There's a recent thread about how F2P games shouldn't require paid online subscriptions. This doesn't affect me in the slightest since I'll always pay for PS+ and Gold and the Nintendo service when it launches. But I still support the cause because despite it not affecting me, it helps some people play how they want without inconveniencing anybody.
I'm not personally affected by loot box design in something like Battlefront since I don't even own the game, but I still support the clamor for it being fixed because it helps some people while harming none.
This entire conversation is nearly pointless on ERA though. The audience here is disproportionately disinterested in multiplayer games compared to the market at large (most people seem to only care about single player games), disproportionately inclined to support Sony (general market is 2:1, maybe 3:1 PS4:XBO but certainly feels like 5:1 on ERA), and apparently don't feel like platform agnostic progression is meaningful.
I'd love to hop on my Switch or PS4 or XBO whenever I want and continue my progress seamlessly, or play with my friends regardless of the system I'm on or they're on. And it's weird to see so many people shrug it off as meaningless instead of, at the very least, "it would be amazing for the audience at large even if it doesn't benefit me personally".
I'm not personally affected by loot box design in something like Battlefront since I don't even own the game, but I still support the clamor for it being fixed because it helps some people while harming none.
This entire conversation is nearly pointless on ERA though. The audience here is disproportionately disinterested in multiplayer games compared to the market at large (most people seem to only care about single player games), disproportionately inclined to support Sony (general market is 2:1, maybe 3:1 PS4:XBO but certainly feels like 5:1 on ERA), and apparently don't feel like platform agnostic progression is meaningful.
I'd love to hop on my Switch or PS4 or XBO whenever I want and continue my progress seamlessly, or play with my friends regardless of the system I'm on or they're on. And it's weird to see so many people shrug it off as meaningless instead of, at the very least, "it would be amazing for the audience at large even if it doesn't benefit me personally".
I want to use my Epic account on Switch. Sony has no right to take that from me. I didn't make the account on PS4 and I purchased content for that account on the PC sku of Fortnite.
Hence the nearly 100 page thread we're posting in? and all the outcry on twitter?
I made my point already read older post but I agree account locking is bad
It is meaningless in the grand scheme, hence I do not care. It might even teach some that big companies dont give a fuck about you, so it is a good thing.
Now, getting kids into pseudogambling, that is serious.
Microtransactions might even teach some that gambling and lotteries are a tax on stupidity, so it is a good thing.
Flawless logic.
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Pretty sure there's no grounds for a serious lawsuit here against either of them. You can still use your purchases on the platform you originally bought them. They're being uncool about letting you use them elsewhere, but you can't really show up in court here and say "hey this game is out on Switch now and Sony won't let me transfer my progress over there! No fair"
but people bought them with the understanding that they were cross progression. That is being hijacked
so now your epic account is run by Sony? people need to take this out on main guilty party - Epic! Sonys policy is shiw but Epic failed to warn their user about it long time before Switch version came out and may even face legal consequences for it
Unless you signed into a PS4 after you purchased them from another platform
Ok, how would Epic warn its consumers? A warning screen? Im just gonna skip a few steps cause ive been over this several times and ask you to phrase the warning that would appear on that screen, without indirectly saying "Don't play this on the console you are signing up on, go sign up on another", because odds are, thats why there was never a warning.
You didn't buy anything entitling you to property rights. You pay for a license which is operated under terms unilaterally designed by Epic.
Sony is absolutely in the wrong here, but I'm fairly sure you wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court with this.
Will it let you sign in to PS4 with an account that's already been linked to Xbox/Switch? I don't think it will. I don't think I can buy stuff on Xbox then get locked out of Xbox because I signed in to PS4 one day.
Agree. Two separate issues. Crossplay would be nice but it's not the end of the world and I understand it from a business perspective. Blocking 3rd party accounts is anti-consumer in a way that's not jusitifiable.
Isn't that one of the biggest problem with this? it essentially infects your epic account
I don't know about this specific case, but people like you should stop acting like these agreements are above the law.
Or rather:
"Warning:
Signing in to your EPIC account on this console will restrict you from signing in on other consoles regardless of whether you unlink the account or not"
Ah, the problem is that if you link PlayStation to your Epic account that's it, you can not play on two other platforms. In my case I didn't even actually play on my PS4 and only linked it, but that was enough for Sony to be cunts and keep my account hostage because reasons.
There's still nothing that has been said that is in favour of this system that is currently being employed by Sony. Again just like crossplay there is only good to open movement, no negatives to the players and even to the platform holders. You buy skins on a platform they still get their money, that's where the transaction ends and all a business should care about. Instead we currently have Sony keeping my account hostage because they deem it so which somehow is a okay to some.
The anti-consumer nature exhibited here and celebrated by some is just gross. No wonder gamers can be manipulated so easy to be sheep and defend their favourite brand despite clearly gross and illegal behaviour.
Actually that's exactly the problem. You can create an account on Switch or Xbox or even on PC and play perfectly fine between those three with the same account. But once your account touches PlayStation that's it, it's lock and all your purchases are now Sony's despite no actual purchase on their network. This is the true problem, Sony being arrogant pricks and taking what isn't theirs, which apparently is okay because "80 million gamers!" or some shit.
That sounds a lot like i should be signing up on one of the other consoles, where the warning will only tell me that i can't sign into a single, non-specific but definitely specific console.
So I just decided to Check the EULA
You know that thing that no one reads? And its pretty damning IMHO
https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/eula
EPIC Games knew the whole time. and they were prepared
[You acknowlege that ANY character data/game progress or any data related to the software may cease to be available to you at any time]
So it reads exactly like every other online game Eula. Nothing unexpected here.
Maybe it helps to point a finger at who is really to blame for locking your accounts.
The people who told you that they can lock your account at anytime for any reason, and that by playing the game you accept these conditions
No? Again, literally every Eula says this same stuff. Hell I am out and can't look, but I bet the fucking resetera one says they control your account. That quote is 100% meaningless.
Again: EVERY ACCOUNT YOU HAVE, for every game or gaming service, says this.
Im not saying its right . Im saying the blame is on EPIC for not warning the users properly.
Online games make sure to warn us that there might be some offensive language used by other players, they warn us of lots of things. Epic KNEW. and they CHOSE NOT to warn us about the ramifications of logging in on other consoles.
Just so i am getting this straight here.
Its fine that one of Sony's policies is forcing Epic to lock people's accounts to only their console ecosystem.
Its not fine that Epic didn't warn us about it.
And therefore, we should be putting the blame on Epic because they did not tell us before.
Am i understanding this?
Its fine that one of Sony's policies is forcing Epic to lock people's accounts to only their console ecosystem.
Its not fine that Epic didn't warn us about it.
And therefore, we should be putting the blame on Epic because they did not tell us before.
Am i understanding this?
Your entire account, every aspect of it, is in every online games Eula. They're not all worded in precisely the same manner, but yes it is literally always part of it.
What's "people like me" in this? I'm absolutely 100% in favor of crossplay and cross progression. As an Xbox/Switch/PS4 owner I stand to benefit greatly from it. And I've been very consistent in criticizing Sony on this and every other thread.
I'm just saying I don't believe there's any legal argument here. When you say these agreements aren't above the las (which is true) - what law is it you believe is being broken?
Props to you, I respect anybody who can back down and acknowledge they were being a moron. All it took was swapping some words in your argument for you to see how dumb you sounded.
This is not so much a smoking gun regarding the issue at hand as it is a standard explanation of what digital licenses really are. A lot of people confuse their digital goods on these walled gardens as actual property they own (along with all the property rights this would entail), but they aren't and never have been. Hence why all of this situation is a damn shame, but not really illegal or anything.
You can argue it all day long. The very thing that everyone is upset about is very specifically written in their EULA (not in general, not like every other EULA, not just for Sony). It is specific. And even if it was like every other EULA (which it is not), when you sign something that is a legal agreement, you are bound by those terms. If you don't want to play by their rules, then don't sign.
You are saying an account made on Xbox is able to "touch" Playstation?
So your Xbox linked account with purcheses can be transfered to PlayStation?
" gamers can be manipulated so easy to be sheep and defend their favourite brand"
I agree with that statement though
This is so shitty. 40% of Switch owners have PS4's they must of known this would happen and just ignored it.